CNN Poll -Hillary Beats All Republicans Including Big Bad John McCain

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Breaking

[bigdarryl]

1. your relying on POLLS after that mess in NH PLEASE!!!!!

[katmondoo]

29. What Mess. There was NO MESS

[ruggerson]

2. But that doesn't fit the media frame

Only Obama can do this. This must be wrong.

[Hieronymus]

3. This was just shown on CNN ...

Unfavorables:
Hillary 47%
McCain 29%

[Drunken Irishman]

10. See, this concerns me.

People need to realize polls this far out don't mean a lick, because most of America is still not following the race all that closely. When the race does heat up, after the convention, the dirty politics will begin and that will almost certainly drive up Hillary's unfavorable ratings. If she's almost at 50% right now, where will she be after a couple of months of the GOP machine? Probably well into the 50s and limping.

The thing that works for the Republicans, outside maybe Giuliani and Romney, is that they'll start lower than Hillary in their unfavorable ratings. So while they too will rise, it won't come nearly as close to Clinton's numbers. How can we expect to win the election IF over 50% of Americans do not like Clinton?

[Sparkly]

13. It's also possible that they'd see her (or any candidate) battling the GOP candidate

and it'd improve their opinion, rather than lower it.

[Sparkly]

11. I'll say this about ANY Democratic candidates...

As long as they get elected, I don't care if 100% of the people who vote against them have an unfavorable opinion. After 8 years of George W. Bush, I'm not feeling real conciliatory.

[Left Brain]

18. Amen to that!

n/t

[Clarkansas]

4. Did they have Nader and Bloomberg in the poll as well?

Because that will likely be the case if we make the mistake of nominating her.

[babylonsister]

5. So does Obama; just heard that. Did you hear different from

ClintonNN? They gave her numbers, not his, but said he too would beat all rethug candidates. Your omission is glaring.

[Patsy Stone]

8. Here's the full CNN story:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/12/poll.matchups/index.html

They both do. She, by 1% more.

:hi:

[totodeinhere]

37. They are tied in that poll when you factor in the margin of error

I would only rate either Clinton or Obama as slight favorites to beat McCain. Of course a lot can happen between now and November, but we had better not be too over confident if McCain is the nominee.

That's why I agree that Dems in Michigan should vote for Romney in order to help stop McCain's momentum. If we can get anyone else but McCain then we very well might have a much better chance in November.

[Didereaux]

40. these are pretty close to pre Iowa head to head polls...Obama has improved

like a whole herd have said repeatedly...its just another poll. However the longterm trend lines do seem to have value.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Start Your Own Thread Then

I'm not obligated to do your work for you!

[babylonsister]

15. You're not 'obligated' to twist the truth by omission either. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I Didn't Twist Anything

I reported what I saw...

When you point a finger at someone you have four fingers pointing back at yourself...

And at least i'm not spamming the board with anti-Obama crap like your cohorts are doing with anti-Clinton crap...

[babylonsister]

21. I'm not spamming anyone, just pointing out the facts that you left out. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

19. DSB, shilling since 2007

Pretty low man, pretty low.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. If You Didn't Have Ad Hominem Attacks You Would Have Nothing At All

~

[Joe the Revelator]

33. At least I try to be truthful

this thread was weak sauce.

[JackORoses]

26. more pure Hillarism, Govern by Omission

Tell the People only what they need to hear to accomplish your objective.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. The Ad Hominem Gang Is All Here

Do you use e-mail or pigeons?


HeeHawHee

[JackORoses]

30. How is it Ad Hominem to point out when someone is filtering the Truth?

It seems that it's your presentation of facts that we have a problem with.
Granted that is your fault, but we have hope that you can still change. So we don't attack you, per se.
Your technique, however, is fair game.
;)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Reported What I Saw Contemporaneously Hence The Lack Of A Link

The fact that you would bear false witness against me for petty partisan purposes reveals more about you and your cabal than it can ever reveal about me...

[JackORoses]

34. you wish were a cabal, the you could marginalize us and write us off

but unfortunately for Hillary, we are not homogenous.
Democrats from all walks of life uniting against a shared threat to our Party and ouyr hopes for the future of this Nation.

"I Reported What I Saw Contemporaneously Hence The Lack Of A Link"

I figured that was the case.
But can you not see how you heard and reported only the portion of the story which appealed to you?

[smalll]

6. She's.... "Madame Electable!" /nt

[City Lights]

7. Just curious - what did the CNN poll say about NH?

:rofl:

[Rock_Garden]

12. Naturally! Thanks,

[Essene]

14. She's also the most disliked candidate (behind Paul)

And those thinking there's hope to "warm up" her image to the majority of americans are taking a huge risk...

[nancyr]

17. I distrust polls.

[Cameron27]

20. Thank you DSB

:-)

K&R

[IndianaGreen]

22. McCain is tied with Hillary and Obama

The Republican candidate who gives Clinton and Obama the closest race in the new poll is Arizona Sen. John McCain, who is essentially tied with both: He draws the support of 48 percent of those surveyed to Clinton's 50 percent and Obama's 49 percent.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/12/poll.matchups/index.html

Because this falls well within the margin of error, all three of them are in a virtual tie.

[Liberals Rule]

25. I'll Kill Myself If McCain Wins

I had the bad luck of having the S.O.B. as my Senator for the past 10 years when I lived in Phoenix. I tell you all..A vote for that low life is a vote for Bush's policies. You want more of the same? Vote for McCain. If it happens I am leaving the country. Because Fascism will continue here and it will be worse under This Man.

[IndianaGreen]

27. Hillary will follow Bush's policies in Iraq, Iran, Palestine, etc.

and she will try to retake Latin America, by force if necessary.

Both parties are fielding war hawk candidates.

[Reciprocity]

32. Whatever your smoking I want some!

"she will try to retake Latin America, by force if necessary."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Didn't You Get The Memo

She intends to annex Mexico...


:crazy:

[IndianaGreen]

41. Did you miss Hillary's "Take that, Venezuela!" speech? Obviously you did!

Hillary sided with the Venezuelan elites.

[Reciprocity]

44. Yes I did miss that. n/t

[MollieBradford]

39. it's not nice to make shit up

:tinfoilhat:

[IndianaGreen]

42. It is worse to remain uninformed!

Do some research!

[Reciprocity]

24. I don't understand this part.

Clinton leads the front-running candidates of both parties -- Obama, McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee and Romney -- in the percentage of voters who say they would definitely vote for her if she won her party's nomination, with 37 percent. But she trails the pack in the percentage of voters who do not support her, but say they might consider voting for her under those circumstances, with 19 percent.


So if she wins the nomination they will vote for her, if she is not only 19% will vote for her?

[farmboy]

35. I think it means her "cap" of possible voters is at 56 percent: 37% support + 19% possible support.

The "possible support" are those who do not currently support her to be the dem candidate but might if she becomes the dem candidate.

[creeksneakers2]

38. That confused me too

They break it down into three categories. Will definitely vote for, might vote for, and definitely won't vote for. Hillary leads in the first category but is behind in the second.

[BenDavid]

43. My internal polling tells me HRC will win the presidency.