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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:17 PM
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Advice for JE- not personal to just you, but to all of us
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 02:19 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
Hey, buddy, you are the best champion I've got, now please bring it home in the next debate.

1. I know it's personal for you, but it's even more personal for me. I now know all about your background and don't need you to focus on your individual biography anymore. It's just like when we all got tired of hearing "the son of Greek immigrant" stuff from Dukakis- give it a break. Resolve to NOT use the word "daddy" or "millworker" even one time in the next debate.

2. Tell us HOW things tie together. Corporations are not just inherently "bad" - they make decisions that are bad that impact on the average American. When they decide to close a factory and take those jobs elsewhere, real Americans lose real jobs. Having cheap stuff made cheaply doesn't really help us. Would you rather pay $10.00 for sneakers made by 12 year olds in Indonesia and lose your job for the privilege of the purchase, or would you rather pay $20.00 and keep your job?

Corporations have the right to make decisions, but at least WE (us, the American electorate) don't have to provide them with corporate welfare and tax breaks that subsidize their disembowelment of our Individual and Municipal and State economies. That's how bad corporate decisions are PERSONAL to US(ME, it's all about me, the American voter)

3.It's PERSONAL to me, the American voter, when medical expenses are the major factor in PERSONAL bankruptcies. It doesn't matter whether you have insurance or not- the co-pays and the limits will get you eventually. If Superman for God's sake had to rely on the financial help of others to cover his medical care, what the f!@# does an average American do? The system is broken and it needs a big fix with or without the participation of the insurance companies.

4. It's also PERSONAL to me, the American voter, when an insurance company is allowed to kill me. Nataline and her family and their doctors had to waste time negotiating with an insurance company and she died as a result. Insurance companies should be BARRED from interfering with medical decisions.

5.It's PERSONAL for me,the American voter, when the National Guard of a state is tied up with police work and military operations in the occupation of another country in multiple tours of duty and is not available to help with hurricane relief, fire fighting, etc. here in "the Homeland". How is that making me more secure?

Anyway, you get the idea. Not just to JE - to all candidates - It's not about you - it's about ME!



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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:20 PM
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1. Phoebe!
:applause:
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:25 PM
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2. Good post.
I agree, more specifics would help make his case. More about corporations, perhaps less about medical malpractice cases. Too much talk about Nataline's story may be reinforcing the "trial attorney" red herring in people's minds.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:28 PM
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3. Nataline was insurance malpractice, not medical malpractice
That's why her case resonates so much. The insurance company denied a procedure that was advocated by her doctors. If something is so in your face that you can get nurses picketing on your behalf, it must be pretty egregious.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:10 PM
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14. Her story is known, it's time to pull in another example. nt.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:03 PM
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19. That's what Edwards need to emphasize. "Insurance malpractice".
So many of the rightwingers are asking if you want government to be making your health choices for you. Well, Natalie's DOCTORS prescribed a new liver, but instead of the government (who are mandated by the constitution to have the best interests of THE PEOPLE at heart) making her decision (as per rightwing fear-monger tactics), it was the insurance company, who has THEIR OWN best interests at heart, NOT HERS.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:29 PM
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4. You are right, it is personal for all of us. We have a stake in the
way things are going and we need JE to focus on that aspect. We are all sons and daughters of immigrants, of mill workers, of blue collar heritage, of any struggling family in the past. Some have had things a little better than others but we, collectively, are now in a very bad place.

JE needs to let America know that he takes our plight personally and will fight the establishment for the future, not because of the past.

I admire him and his very interesting life. I do hope he shines Tuesday night. I believe this debate will be the most important presentation he will ever make.

The whole country will be his courtroom and will hear him plead our case.

Things have got to change. We need his courage, I need to believe things will get better.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:30 PM
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5. I hope to hear this in the debate. These points tie it all together.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 02:36 PM by midnight
Especially the part where the Insurance co. should not be allowed to interfere with medical decisions. But your other four points are just as important. Send these five points to the Edwards campaign.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:31 PM
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6. Well said! knr
:toast: Hope it's not too early for one of these, but if so, have some of this instead... :donut:

Nice post, Phoebe!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:02 PM
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18. The sun is setting over the yardarm!
:toast: Cheers! To DU! To Edwards! To paper ballots! To media gridlock unlocked! The room is starting to . . . spin.

Thanks for the positive feedback.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:32 PM
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7. K & R.
:kick:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:34 PM
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8. Excellent, excellent, excellent
K&R
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:39 PM
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9. Great post
If you have not done so already, you should take it over to the Edwards blog site and post it!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:45 PM
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10. GOP in today's paper re economy, called subprime mess 'an opportunity'
This is the perfect time to bring in Naomi Klein's book The Shock Doctrine. Spotlight it, John !
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:47 PM
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11. Randi said yesterday that Senator Edwards should return to his "Two Americas" message...
:thumbsup:
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:51 PM
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16. But an overhauled and retooled 2 Americas
The 2 Americas are:

The America that works for and is run for the benefit of Big Business and Corporate interests or

The America that works for and is run for the benefit of the individual American voter

Those are the two Americas today.

The problem with Edwards old message is that some saw it as divisive and class warfare and it probably placed too much emphasis on "the poor". No one wanted to admit that they would need a John Edwards to champion them -it equated to admitting that they were part of the loser underdog class.(Sidenote - America hates the poor and any reminder that poverty exists.)

Today, we are at a point where almost all American voters have seen their economic security teetering on the edge a huge abyss. The subprime mortgage mess did not even exist in the last election. The dollar is weaker. The unemployment rate is ratcheting upward by the day, the minute, the second. The MAJORITY of Americans are now the underdogs against big business interests whether they like it or not. They are waking up to that knowledge and they know they need a champion to fight for them.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:47 PM
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12. excellent post!
please, please send it to the Edwards website too!
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:05 PM
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13. wow, Phoebe. Just... wow!
spot on, and good for you.
That says it all.

I hope Elizabeth is here today. John needs to get your message.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:10 PM
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15. k&r... 17 recs so far in less than an hour
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:54 PM
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17. What Is So Ironic About All Of The Debates Is That For The Most Part...
John Edwards either has been perceived to be the "best" and the "winner" and yet... look what's happening!!

Why he's not running FIRST all over America should be evident to most people!

Great, Great Post!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:54 PM
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20. I add my applause to the masses. Thank you! nt
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:44 PM
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21. Well said.
:thumbsup:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:48 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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