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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:19 AM
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Hillary to unveil $70 Billion Economic Stimul Plan
WASHINGTON — Adjusting her campaign to address increased fears of a recession, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that she would call for quick enactment of a $70 billion emergency spending package and for a possible $40 billion tax rebate later if economic conditions worsen.

Mrs. Clinton said her proposal, to be announced on Friday in California, would aid lower-income families facing foreclosures of their mortgages, subsidize home heating assistance, extend jobless benefits and create jobs in the energy and environment sector.

“I have been looking at the latest unemployment numbers, and I really think it is imperative that we start to move to help people dealing with the housing market and give the country a jolt of confidence in the economy,” Mrs. Clinton said in a telephone interview while campaigning in Nevada.

She added that she “absolutely” believed that it was possible for Democrats in Congress to work with the Bush administration to enact a stimulus package early this year, despite the rising discord of the presidential campaign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/politics/11fiscal.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:21 AM
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1. Now, where will that money come from?
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:22 AM
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2. can't we just Hope that it will Change
if we all Work Together at the Big Table? :evilgrin:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:42 AM
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13. I Think If We All Hold Hands, Republicans And Democrats, And Sing Kumbaya , The Economy Will
Magically Improve...
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:46 AM
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14. sorry, what was that?
the fragile gossamer of Hope and Change I've wrapped myself in got in the way and I couldn't read what you wrote. :evilgrin:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:51 AM
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19. I Call It The "Being There" Campaign
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 AM
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3. From my understanding on how Government works it can from many areas.
But I guess we will have to wait and see when the unveiling happens.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 AM
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4. It'll probably be going here instead of...
To Blackwater and Halliburton over in Iraq. Who's financial betterment would you rather see stimulated...the American people, or BushCo? Seems simple to me...
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:02 PM
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25. Or it will be going to India...Hillary's a hypocrit

Like she cares about the economy and the lack of jobs. While MI has
the highest unemployment rate, Tata Motors comes out with a new
"cheap" car. Google Hillary Clinton, Tata Consultancy and Buffalo, NY.
That's the real Hillary and her concerns for jobless americans.

She was courting the american-indians (India) for votes and donations.
She's in bed with Indian corporations.

Sorry Hill supporters, but this is a fact. The Washington Post had a
good article concerning this back in September. The Buffalo News also
had articles on it.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:11 PM
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30. Tata's cheap car is a Hillary problem??? interesting - it can't be sold in the US/EU/Japan etc
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:25 AM
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6. Ending the war in Iraq
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 AM
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11. Didn't you hear? Bill and Hill stole a press from the mint when they vacated the WH. n/t
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:52 AM
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21. Repealing the tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy would be a place.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:31 PM
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39. it will go onto the deficit
but then will be paid back when the economy improves. Like what happened with Bill Clinton's stimulus package.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:24 AM
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5. oh please oh please oh please
let her name it first and foremost the Bush Recession so the name will stick and the repugs won't hang it around the Dem President's head like a noose when she takes Office.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:32 AM
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9. this isn`t a political issue it`s a human issue
no one should take any credit for this because they are all guilty of not stopping this war that bleeds this country every second of the day.

this issue needs no figurehead-- it needs a united democratic party to make the republicans stop and think about who`s side they are on the people of this country or their boy king
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:26 AM
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7. don`t fund the war....
where will the money come from unless the war is stopped? no rebates-send cash and don`t tax it!

every democrat in the house and senate should stand united on this proposal. it`s not a political issue it`s a human issue that transcends politics. as far as i am concerned from now on any democrat that funds the war has blood on their hands.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:29 AM
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8. Press release.
Clinton Unveils Aggressive Plan to Jumpstart U.S. Economy
Plan Would Help Hundreds Of Thousands Of Families Stay In Their Homes; More Than 37 Million Would Receive Energy Assistance
Hillary Clinton is unveiling an aggressive $70 billion stimulus package today that would boost the U.S. economy and help families who have been hit hardest by the economic downturn across America.

Clinton will detail her five-part stimulus plan in a speech at the IBEW Hall in City of Commerce, CA. Her plan would specifically help homeowners who have been hurt by the housing foreclosure crisis, provide immediate relief to families who are facing skyrocketing energy bills, support workers who have lost their jobs, and make immediate investments in "green collar jobs" which will not only stimulate the economy, but improve the environment.

More than 37 million Americans would receive energy assistance under Clinton’s plan, and hundreds of thousands of families would get help to avoid foreclosure and stay in their homes. "Economists and politicians are finally waking up to what many of America’s families already know: that we might be sliding into a recession," Clinton said.

"But when the bills are stacking up, and you’re just one pink slip away from losing everything you’ve got, the last thing you need is more talk. In the face of rising global competition, our children’s future is at stake. So we don’t need more rhetoric, we need action. We need an immediate strategy to get our economy back on track. I would work with leaders from both parties to pass an aggressive, fast-acting stimulus package to create good new jobs and revitalize our economy."

Senator Clinton believes we need to jumpstart the economy without negatively affecting America’s long-term fiscal position. In addition, her plan targets assistance toward hardworking families which are most likely to spend new resources, which will ensure that we give the economy an immediate boost.

Clinton also called on Congress to stand ready to provide an additional $40 billion in direct tax rebates to working and middle class families if the economy continues to worsen.

Hillary’s Economic Stimulus Plan would:

Establish a $30 Billion Emergency Housing Crisis Fund to assist states and cities mitigate the effects of mounting foreclosures
Take bold action to stem tide of foreclosure, including a 90-day moratorium on subprime foreclosures and an automatic rate freeze on subprime ortgages of at least five years
Provide $25 billion in emergency energy assistance for families facing skyrocketing heating bills
Accelerating $5 billion in energy efficiency and alternative energy investments to jumpstart green collar job growth:
Invest $10 billion in extending and broadening unemployment insurance for those who are struggling to find work:



HILLARY CLINTON’S PLAN TO JUMPSTART OUR AILING ECONOMY

Today, Senator Clinton outlined an economic stimulus plan to help hard hit families and give our economy a much needed boost. Over a month ago, in a speech to Wall Street, Senator Clinton called on the Bush Administration to begin considering economic stimulus. In the month since, while the Administration has failed to act, we have seen growing signs that our economy is faltering. Tens of thousands of families have already been forced out of their homes. Recently, oil hit $100 a barrel, and last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the economy lost jobs in the private sector in December for the first time in over four years. According to RealtyTrac, more than 201,000 foreclosure filings were reported in November alone, up 68 percent from the year before.

Hillary believes we need real action now. While economists may still be debating whether we’ve met the technical definition of a recession, for hard-hit middle class families that question has already been answered.

That is why today Senator Clinton called on the President and Congressional leaders from both parties to enact an aggressive, fast-acting stimulus package based on common-sense economic principles. Unlike 2001, when President Bush used stimulus as an excuse to force through long-term tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans - which ran up our debt to foreign governments while utterly failing to reignite job growth - Senator Clinton believes we need a strong immediate stimulus to jumpstart the economy without negatively affecting our long-term fiscal position. In addition, stimulus measures should be targeted toward hardworking families that are most likely to spend new resources, which will ensure that we give our economy an immediate boost. As President, Hillary would enact a five-part stimulus package that is consistent with these principles. This package includes:



Establishing a $30 Billion Emergency Housing Crisis Fund to assist states and cities mitigate the effects of mounting foreclosures. With our economy facing the prospect of substantial contraction as hundreds of thousands of subprime mortgages reset and housing values erode further, Senator Clinton believes that any effective stimulus package must take aggressive action to mitigate this contraction and help as many families as possible remain in their homes. Her $30 billion fund would provide immediate, time-limited resources to states, cities and community organizations to help prevent unnecessary foreclosures. States and communities could also use the funds to offset the costs associated with vacant properties by supporting efforts like community-level anti-blight programs and helping local housing authorities buy up vacant properties and rent them to working families. When families lose their homes, surrounding property values and local tax revenues decline and the cost of policing and maintaining vacant properties rise. This reduction in revenues and rise in costs can lead cities and states to cutback services, lay off teachers and other vital workers, raise college tuition, or even raise local taxes. The availability of $30 billion in federal assistance will ensure that states and cities have the resources they need to fight foreclosures, prevent a downward housing cycle impacting large numbers of homeowners and to weather the crisis without unnecessary fiscal contraction.
Taking bold action to end the housing crisis. Senator Clinton is the only candidate with a comprehensive plan to keep families in their homes and keep the housing crisis from dragging down the economy. More than 2 million foreclosure notices went out last year, devastating families and communities. The foreclosure crisis is also contributing to the decline in home prices which has already cost families an estimated $1.3 trillion. Many experts believe the worst is yet to come. To stem this crisis, Senator Clinton has called for a 90-day moratorium on subprime foreclosures and an automatic rate freeze on subprime mortgages of at least five years or until servicers have converted the unworkable mortgages into loans families can afford. In addition, Senator Clinton proposed to temporarily empower state housing financing agencies to help families refinance unworkable mortgages and temporarily increasing the portfolio caps at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and enabling them to purchase larger loans in high-cost areas. These steps would immediately increase the availability of mortgages for responsible borrowers.
Providing $25 billion in emergency energy assistance for families facing skyrocketing heating bills: Rising home heating prices are imposing a serious and immediate financial burden on working families. Yet while more than 37 million American families are eligible for home energy assistance, only 5.6 million - or approximately 16% - are slated to receive any aid this winter. Even those who do receive assistance have seen the average grant decline from 36% of a typical family’s home heating bills in 2003 to only 23% in 2007. Meanwhile, the cost of heating a home in New Hampshire is expected to soar as much as 20 - 25% this winter alone. Senator Clinton is calling for an immediate $25 billion investment in home heating assistance grants for all 37 million eligible families. The grants will the purchasing power of energy assistance to where it was 5 years ago. And they will ensure that hardworking families and seniors on fixed incomes will not have to choose between heating their homes, putting food on the table or purchasing prescription drugs this winter.
Accelerating $5 billion in energy efficiency and alternative energy investments to jumpstart green collar job growth: Senator Clinton believes that by immediately implementing components of her comprehensive plan to transition to a green, clean economy, we can both jumpstart green collar jobs and jumpstart our long-term transition to energy independence as well. The immediate actions that could be part of a 2008 stimulus could include a crash weatherization program to cut home energy costs by up to 20% this winter; expanded tax credits to encourage families and businesses to accelerate purchases of hybrids and other low emission vehicles and to reduce energy costs by purchasing efficient appliances, new windows and other clean, efficient technologies, and acceleration of a Green Building Fund and Green Collar Job training program to put tens of thousands of people to work making schools and other public buildings energy efficient.
Investing $10 billion in extending and broadening unemployment insurance for those who are struggling to find work: Senator Clinton is calling for stepped up assistance for those who have lost their jobs and are searching for work while trying to provide for their families. By strengthening our unemployment insurance program and extending unemployment insurance for workers who are laid off for extended periods, this efforts will empower more Americans to reenter the labor market in good-paying jobs.
Standing Ready for $40 Billion Rebate to Working Families: In addition to immediately adopting her 5-part plan, Senator Clinton called on Congress to stand ready to provide an additional $40 billion in direct tax-rebates to working and middle class families if economic circumstances continue to worsen. This additional $40 billion in tax relief should be designed to meet Senator Clinton’s principles for stimulus: it should be fast-acting to kick-start the economy; temporary to be fiscally responsible; and progressive so that it has a high bang-for-the-buck. This means that rebates should not be partially or completely denied to tens of millions of lower income taxpayers, as was the case with President Bush’s plan during the last economic contraction.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:48 AM
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16. Ooookeeee, where is the part about stopping the Off Shoring?
Getting the manufacturing back into this country? How can anyone kick-start the economy and have any hope of keeping it going if the jobs do not come back?
Where is the part about rescinding the Tax Cuts awarded the rich few percent?
Rebates? Is this going to be setup anything like bu$h's tax rebates where we had to pay it back? Instead of rebates how about reordering the income tax as to ability to pay? If it is earned income, tax it, but don't forget about deductions. They need to go up as the income goes DOWN! If it is not earned income, well, we have time yet to fight about it
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:51 AM
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18. Where are the other candidates on this?
I'm all ears!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:53 AM
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22. (Hoping) The Economy Will (Change) For The Better
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 AM
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10. But the bulk of it goes to mortgages and heating oil
It's just like the college payments, it's government abdicating it's responsibility to do something and instead just handing out money to try to ameliorate some of the negative effects of having done nothing. There's no taking on of the vested interests that cause these problems; I guess that's too hard.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:40 AM
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12. Jump starting is the beginning.
When and if I hear any ideas of substance from the other candidates, I'm all ears.
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Wisconsin for Hill Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:46 AM
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15. this is what experience provides...
real solutions to real problems facing Americans.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:49 AM
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17. Bill's stimulus plan had to be cut back significantly and still almost didn't pass
That's the experience we've had with Clinton stimulus programs. They settled for much less than they originally wanted and gave up a lot along the way.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:52 AM
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20. And the 90's were such a bad time to economically right?
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:56 AM
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23. So now we're talking about general economic policy
instead of stimulus? The poster I was replying to cited Clinton's experience as a factor in coming up with the stimulus plan; my response was simply that our experience with a Clinton stimulus plan suggested she would have difficulty getting it through.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:01 PM
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24. As did Bill but it got though and it wasn't what they wanted but it still got though and worked.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:07 PM
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26. So maybe HRC will deliver, what $20B? Would you consider that 'delivering'? nt
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:09 PM
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27. If that were to be true, it's still better than anything else I have yet to see another
Candidate offer.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:11 PM
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28. But you're agreeing we should discount her promises by 72%? nt
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:15 PM
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33. I am agreeing that no one else has put anything out there.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:11 PM
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29. But you're agreeing we should discount her promises by 72%? nt
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:19 PM
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35.  I am agreeing that no one else has put anything out there.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:12 PM
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31. I just saw a poll stating the economy was now ahead of Iraq as the #1 issue
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 12:16 PM by wyldwolf
So, ladies and gentleman, it's STILL the economy, stupid!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:13 PM
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32. When the American dollar is at par with the Canadian, you know we're in BIG trouble.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:28 PM
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41. It was BELOW the Canadian dollar much of the fall. n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:15 PM
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34. Isn't that what the exit polls said in NH?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:25 PM
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40. You're saying our economy is now doing better than Iraq's economy?
:hi:
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:24 PM
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36. She really shines on this issue. K&R!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:25 PM
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37. And, smokes em out during debates. They pale in comparison when confronted on issues.
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:29 PM
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38. Well, I'm issue driven, which is one of the many reasons I'm so strong on Hillary.
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