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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:44 PM
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Obama has no experience to be President other than being a...
Civil rights attorney who turned down a prestigious judicial clerkship, Constitutional law professor, Community organizer, Board member of the Joyce Foundation, Board member Woods Fund of Chicago, Board member Chicago Annenberg Challenge, State Senator, Chairman of the Illinois State Senate Health and Human Services Committee, US Senator, Member of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Member of the US Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Member of the US Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, Husband, Grammy award winner, father of two daughters, and a published writer.

Other than that, he has no experience.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:45 PM
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1. Maybe he didn't deserve his...
Honorary doctor of laws degree from the University of Massachusetts Boston for among other things, "advancing and protecting the interests of the less fortunate."
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:37 PM
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25. Do you have a link to that? Because I go to school there...
and we don't have a law school. Just curious. :)
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:46 PM
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2. He has three more years in elected office then Hillary does, and four more then Edwards. nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:46 PM
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3. Good stuff.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:47 PM
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5. K&R
:kick:
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:47 PM
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4. He also hasn't had sex with Bill Clinton
That only leaves 45,321 eligible candidates. :evilgrin:
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:49 PM
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10. yet
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:56 PM
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17. LOL LOL LOL!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:51 PM
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12. So are you saying John Edwards HAS had sex with Bill Clinton??
:wow:
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:52 PM
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14. Edwards isn't his type
Too pretty.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 PM
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19. You own me a new monitor
:spray:

:spank:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:48 PM
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6. Yes, yes, that's all very well, but...
...has he ever acted in a bad movie? With a chimp? Or run a baseball team into the ground? Or run an oil company - and lost money? Or dodged the draft? Or gone AWOL? Or facilitated anti-communist witch hunts against those he was entrusted to represent?

No? Then in what conceivable way is he qualified to be president?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:49 PM
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9. True...
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:49 PM
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7. K&R. I want a Constitutional scholar for Prez
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:50 PM
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11. As opposed to a constitutional dufus?
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:53 PM
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15. God yes. An actual philosopher king- er President
:D
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:49 PM
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8. 5th K&R for delicious irony.
Thanks for your post.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:52 PM
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13. nice-
Yes we can!
K&R
:hi:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 PM
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16. Great post. I'm recommending and then bookmarking it. I think we're going
to need all this valuable info!

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:56 PM
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18. Do you know how long he practiced law?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:30 AM
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36. After three years as a full-time associate, he was elected ...
"After three years as a full-time associate, he was elected to the State Senate"
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/01/04/barack-obama-was-once-a-lowly-law-firm-associate/
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:17 PM
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20. How about this comparison ...
... to another Illinois politician: Abraham Lincoln.

"At the age of 25, Lincoln was first elected to the Illinois legislature as a Whig, where he served for 8 years. In 1846 he was elected to Congress, where he served one term. These comprised his entire experience in elective office before he became president."

http://www.exploredc.org/index.php?id=91


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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:18 PM
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21. Obama won a Grammy?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:35 PM
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24. Yep, spoken word category.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:36 PM by usregimechange
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:19 PM
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22. There IS a double standard going on...
The media has been quite ready to give legitmacy to two MAYORS who are trying to run for President with 8 years of job experience. No one every asks Giuliani or Bloomberg--do you have enough experience, being in charge of only 8 million people for only 8 years?

Obama was in the State Senate of Illinois, presiding over a region of Chicago (2.8 million) for 8 years, and now the United States Senate for 3 years for the State of Illinois (12 million). I call that 11 years of public service. And yet, compared to Giuliani and Bloomberg, not to mention Clinton and Edwards, he's inexperienced?

Please....
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:21 PM
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23. Oh who gives a fuck. No one says he never accomplished anything.
All three of the candidates have major accomplishments. So what? All three of the candidates are "published writers". For fucks sake....
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:39 PM
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26. all three are not generally criticized for having little experience
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:41 AM
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41. bwahahaha
the posts saying he isn't qualified, doesn't have the experience, is an empty suit, or a lightweight are legion around here. Nitpicking by saying that no one says he never accomplished anything borders on the dishonest.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:42 PM
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27. And an amazing list of Accomplishments in Illinois
Let me repeat, the Accomplished Senator from Illinois:

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:46 PM
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28. Thanks for posting...
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:47 PM
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29. My understanding he is a lecturer not a law professor
There is a difference.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:25 AM
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32. He was a legislator, he chose not to be tenured.
There was an article written recently by one of the Chairs of the Law School recalling how they contacted Obama and try to get him to accept a tenured position at the school, and how he couldn't understand why such an up-and-comming scholar would waste his potential getting involved into politics. I don't remeber if it was in Time or some other onlin mag.
Make no mistake he was not a simple 'lecturer' as you present it.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:12 AM
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33. Thanks for the additional info
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:48 PM
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30. You left out one;
Obama is rising in the polls because he’s expressing FEELINGS that people WANT to hear. People are worn down by the last seven years, and they want to believe what they’re hearing from a hopeful, fresh candidate. The problem is, it’s just talk. Here are some pithy examples of (1) Obama as the triangulator extraordinaire, and (2) Obama as a do-nothing — yes, a do-nothing.


A do-nothing? You can’t even find it listed at his Senate Web site, but Sen. Obama is the chairman of the Subcommittee on European Affairs for the Senate Foreign Relations committee. That subcommittee oversees “U.S. involvement with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), relations with the European Union (EU), and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Matters relating to Greenland and the northern polar region are also the responsibility of this subcommittee.”

Shockingly — although his campaign has tried to beef up his thin international experience by citing his chairmanship of the subcommittee on European affairs — according to Congressional Quarterly, Sen. Obama has not held a single hearing since he assumed the chairmanship nearly a year ago. It’s little wonder, then, that Sen. Obama’s Senate site doesn’t list his chairmanship.






I know this was talked about last week, so I won't bother to post the link. I just think it's not fair to leave out such an important part of his job. Just to be fair....
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:05 AM
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31. Yeah, but he hasn't already been president
How can you run for president without that crucial presidential experience?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:37 AM
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40. You got me...
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:16 AM
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34. Obama's record has received remarkably little scrutiny
in the mainstream media, no doubt in part because the press has been eager to keep the race competitive and nudge Hillary off the stage. Plus, part of it must also be a certain reluctance among reporters to pop the bubble.

Where was Obama on the racially charge Duke rape case? He had other things to do.Where was Obama on the racially charged Jena Six case? He was busy elsewhere.

Is that what makes Jackson and Sharpton "shakedown artists and flim-flammers?"Because they were willing to get involved when Obama wasn't?

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:26 AM
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35. ABC News: Obama: Investigate Duke Lacrosse DA Nifong
Another voice has joined the call for a federal investigation into the handling of the Duke Lacrosse case -- this one with the punch of presidential politics.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in a written response to a constituent, said that an "independent inquiry is needed" into the conduct of Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/LegalCenter/story?id=2980582&page=1
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:31 AM
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37. Grammy award winner?
lol

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:35 AM
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38. for spoken word - about the book he write and published about his
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 01:38 AM by usregimechange
father. "Throughout the book, the U.S. Senator looks at race from the point of view of someone who has seen and been part of a variety of cultures, and he explains how his perspective shaped his views."
http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-My-Father-Story-Inheritance/dp/1400082773
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:37 AM
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39. I forgot ... president of the Harvard Law Review
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:44 AM
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42. I wonder what Michelle Obama's record looks like?
Does anybody know,,,such as volteering...clubs..etc..just wondering.
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