I like it when DUers stick up for Democrats.

[Skinner]

I especially like it when a DUer sticks up for one presidential candidate, even though they support a different candidate. That's cool. It makes me smile.

Having myself observed all the Democratic primary candidates over the last year or more, I guess I just really have a hard time believing that any of them sucks. I know, I've read all the criticisms. But still. They just seem like pretty decent people who want to make this country a better place. I'm looking forward to voting for one of them someday.

That is all.

[Cameron27]

1. Me too Skinner

:-)

[renegade000]

2. i concur, kick & rec

:dem:

[hisownpetard]

3. I'd be happy with any one of the top three contenders as President.

This time around, we have a wealth of talent.

[Auntie Bush]

87. Me too! It's just that I have a favotite. I really love the all...even thre ones that dropped out.

[peace13]

4. Wow! n/t

[rosesaylavee]

5. Oh, you Democrat! How typical!111!

:)

Nice place you have here, Skinner. Thanks for making it so.

[intheflow]

9. Yeah, he's jus' one of them-thar bleedin' hart libruls!

:P

Which is why we all like him! :hi:

[Bonobo]

6. Jeez! What a "Kumbaya" fest!

:sarcasm:

[Quantess]

38. Dammit!

[umtalal]

88. LOL

[HughMoran]

7. So do I

It shows emotional control - something that's been sorely lacking here recently.

[cali]

8. yep. it's important. n/t

[Uben]

10. I'm voting for one of them......

.......too bad I can't figure out how to vote for all of them. I share your sentiments. I'm not locked in to anyone of them yet, but dayum! Obama is like a phenomona, an Obamana, if you will. John Edwards makes so much sense and leads one to believe he will
truly champion the cause of the middle class, which is slowly disappearing. Clinton, well just seeing a female president would be a good reason to vote for her, but she is also very intelligent and knows the inner-workings of the Whitehouse.


We win either way! A bit different than the last two elections we have suffered through. I just can't fathom a republican even coming close this round. We hold all the good cards! Aces every one!

[NoSheep]

11. Wow. That's some spineful shit.

[Enrique]

12. me too

k & r :toast:

[LittleClarkie]

13. Thanks for the positivity, Skinner

Ditto.

[Vektor]

14. I agree...

I love something about all our Dems, I really do. I have my criticisms and praises for each of them, but deep down, I appreciate what they do, and their desire to change things for the better.

[Control-Z]

15. Nice to have a place

to still do that.

Thanks, Skinner.

[Longhorn]

16. I agree 100 percent! nt

[proud patriot]

17. It has been quite difficult to pick just one

:)

[ihavenobias]

18. It's a tough balance...

I believe we SHOULD be able to have open debate and criticism of the various candidates. The problem comes in when we get carried away (it happens to most of us at some point, myself included) and make it personal.

This stuff can be incredibly frustrating and it's good to have threads like this to remind us we have a LOT more in common than we do differences. Hmm, maybe we need aliens to invade (like in Independence Day) or a conservative troll to unite us? :)

PS--- http://bravenewfilms.org/election

K&R

[LittleBlue]

19. I agree. That's why I want to win.

My dislike of Hillary has to do with electibility and political ability rather than likeability. She seems like a nice person. I'm just not into losing, I guess.

[peace13]

20. It is good that you remind us of this.

For a while there it felt like the wheels were falling off of this thing! (sarcasm) Edited to say...Did it bother you that all of the Democratic candidates were not included in the debates that you watched? I am all for cheer leading but one has to admit that there are some big problems in the Dems approach to this election. And please don't tell me that it is in the medias hands. Good Democratic candidates would not proceed with the debate if all candidates were not included. I am a Democrat who holds this party to standards. I do not feel bad for expressing a position that needs to be heard. More should speak out here. That is the good thing about this place. We can strive to do the right thing for this country that needs us so badly. Peace, Kim

[CitizenLeft]

21. hear hear!

So do I.

[Lex]

22. I agree. Why bash a candidate you might just end up voting for

in the long run?

They are all good, solid candidates. The Democrats are in *such* better shape this election year, it seems to me, than the Repubs.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Nice positive reinforcement...are you taking parenting classes?

Thanks dad.

[Adelante]

24. You're really working it, Skinner

:rofl:

[DeepModem Mom]

25. You rock, Skinner!

:yourock:

[Patsy Stone]

26. None of them suck

None of the ones who dropped out sucked either.

It's a great year to be a Democrat.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. Skinner Likes Me! He really likes me!

alcibiades_mystery posts defending Hillary Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2622128&mesg_id=2622544

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3977492&mesg_id=3977886

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3969513&mesg_id=3970210

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3977452&mesg_id=3978353

alcibiades_mystery posts defending John Edwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2617027&mesg_id=2617113

alcibiades_mystery posts defending Barack Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3973451&mesg_id=3974426

evil_twin_mystery post ATTACKING Dennis Kucinich (ya can't win 'em all...:-))

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3981150&mesg_id=3981519

We can disagree without being disagreeable. - Barack Obama

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

102. I am in awe of your Democratic defense credentials.

:rofl: Note to self, bookmark is your friend. :toast: MKJ

[mzmolly]

28. In all seriousness, I do as well, and I like 'me' better when I do so.

;) I too am looking forward to voting for ANY of our candidates to take the nomination! :toast:

[dailykoff]

29. DU posters are the best!

:thumbsup:

[nashville_brook]

30. i wish i could have ALL THREE of them --

hillary's political ability, obama's marketing ability and edwards' ideology.

[Warren Stupidity]

31. Yup.

We can actually do that sometimes.

[Tom Rinaldo]

32. Yes, me too. K&R n/t

[David Zephyr]

33. We have great candidates. I like them all.

All it takes for me to appreciate our crowd is to look at their crop of candidates.

Any of ours, any day of the week.

[onehandle]

34. The candidates are all great.

Some DUers...not so much.

[PretzelWarrior]

35. exactly. ALL of these people are great.

it's not like the office of president needs a super hero. It needs someone of decent coalition building skills, level headed personality, and many talented professionals to give them good advice. incidentally, everything Bush lacked.

GO DEMOCRATS! GO AMERICA!

[calteacherguy]

36. I concur. nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

37. Kick.

[tom_paine]

39. K & R

I just got flamed on another thread for doing just that.

[City Lights]

40. Me too, Skinner.

:applause: :yourock:

[rhett o rick]

41. Democrats squabble, argue and some times fight, but basically want the same basic things.

Skinner, thank you and your helpers for providing this tremendous site so we can argue, etc. I find respectful arguing (or debating)is very educational.

Speaking of debating, is it possible to hold online DU member debates for the candidates? I am not sure how to work it but then I am not the genus here.

Thanks again Skinner

[Strawman]

42. Agree, but I have to wonder

Isn't it possible that conflict and the absence of comity are responsible for the high turnout on our side? However marginal the differences really are. However ultimately palatable all of the top three might be, people become energized when they feel something is at stake. It is distasteful, but if it mobilizes people, I guess I can tolerate it.

[LoZoccolo]

43. We should treat them all with respect, not like the Republicans would.

:kick:

[Forkboy]

52. You're obviously just sucking up to Skinner, or your a total hypocrite.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3991551

Suck up, hypocrite, liar. Seems people here could choose any of those and have you pegged because this post combined with the one linked illustrate all three tendencies.

[LoZoccolo]

56. Don't disturb this nice thread with those kind of ripples please.

This is a great thread; please let it be.

I will leave you with the "pumpkin fuckers" thread to establish how I feel about people who trash candidates in ways that the Republicans can use against us later:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3988071&mesg_id=3988071

[Forkboy]

59. Proving your further hypocrisy.

[LoZoccolo]

63. Again, let's keep this thread positive, kthxbye. n/t

[Tektonik]

66. .

:puke:

[redqueen]

72. Awww... you even like the UFO candidate?

[LoZoccolo]

75. I can say right now that I would vote for him, were he to win the nomination.

And that's more than he can say. I'd vote for him even though he is promoting splinterism with his threat of non-support of the nominee.

[politicasista]

79. Thank you! n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

44. Me too.

And I like you for giving us the forum to do it.:hug:

[Politicub]

45. Kick!

If anyone watched the debate on Saturday night, it was so obvious that any of the dem contenders are so far and beyond the Republican field that it's mind boggling. We're fortunate to have such a great slate of nominees to choose from.

[frogmarch]

46. Count me in, Skinner. I like it too. :-)

[Marrah_G]

47. I feel the same way Skinner

I genuinely like them all. I hate seeing them torn apart here. It is unbearable here some days. Like watching your family members punching each other in the face repeatedly.

[thoughtcrime1984]

48. Thank you for the positive energy

I think we all can use it, I know I can.

[tammywammy]

49. Agreed Skinner

I think I've done my best to stick up for all the candidates. :)

[IronLionZion]

50. Agreed Skinner, I love to see positivity and optimism on here

I've been reading DU a lot lately as my project at work is on hold and it would be rude to whip out a book in front of everyone and read that. But there is a powerful undercurrent of negativity on this site. It's up to each of us at the individual level to refuse to be sucked down to that level. I applaud anyone who has positive things to say about any of our Dems. Yes, obviously constructive criticism is healthy for democracy when it's honest, but I have a hard time believing that any of our candidates are monsters or will do anything terribly bad to any of us if elected(not even Hillary).

[YvonneCa]

51. Same here...

...Skinner. Thanks! :)

[youthere]

53. Kicking for SANITY.

[DaveinMD]

54. greeat post

One of them will make a great President and start fixing our country and I look forward to helping them do so.

[Forkboy]

55. I admit to having a mixed record in this regard.

I have some serious issues with the Democratic Party right now, and I know I'm not alone in that. However, I have, and will continue to do so, stuck up for each of them at times when the posts are blatant slime. I want to change the party based on ideas, not by using RW tactics, smears, and lies, because troubles aside, they're still a damn sight better than any Republican.

[MollieBradford]

57. when I was a little girl

I could be very mean to my little sister. But if anyone else dared pick on her they had better watch out. I was not about punching someone to defend her.

[MollieBradford]

58. above

I was not ABOVE punching someone. ....

But then I was a little kid. Now I keep my hands to myself. O8)

[SteppingRazor]

60. Nice post, Hitler.

:popcorn:


Seriously, though, as someone who has found himself defending Clinton as much as I defend my man Obama, it's great that you notice these things. :thumbsup:

[AspenRose]

61. LEAVE SKINNER ALONE!!!!

:P

[SteppingRazor]

62. One of those rare times when I can honestly type "lol."

:rofl:

[NancyG]

64. I'd be delighted with ANY one of them as President nt

[earth mom]

65. So, should we be expecting a nice thread about Edwards from you? nt

[MonkeyFunk]

68. Does he need to start a thread

stating that a white, straight, southern male is electable?

[earth mom]

103. Fair is fair after all. Skinner did say the DU administrators are officially neutral.

But it doesn't seem neutral to post a pro Hillary and a pro Obama thread and nothing about Edwards.

[MonkeyFunk]

108. his threads were about whether a black man or a woman

were electable.

But if you want him to post that a white southern man is electable, you should email him.

And where's his Gravel post?!

[earth mom]

109. Edwards, Hillary & Obama are the front runners and so it's a glaring omission.

FYI- I really don't give a damn what you think about my post, so why don't you run along and pester someone else. It's what you do best. :eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

110. his threads weren't in support of them personally

they were about whether or not a black man or a woman could be elected in America.

But if you need to be reassured, I will state unequivocally, that yes, a white southern man is electable in America.

[Hekate]

67. Doing my best here, Skinner. Thanks for the sanity. nt

[LostinVA]

69. Thanks -- I've also been impressed by this

Including sticking up for President Clinton.

[lisainmilo]

70. I agree...K&R

We are all Democrats First!

[redqueen]

71. Agreed on all points.

Weeeeeell .... except for Edwards. Man, that guy sucks! :P

[AwakeAtLast]

73. "I just really have a hard time believing that any of them sucks."

That would be the reason why I haven't been able to throw my hat into any person's corner.

There great things about all of them - which makes it very hard for me to choose. What a great position in which to be! :bounce:




Now, if Gore suddenly decides to run (one can hope, right? ) I am abandoning all other Dems. Sorry! :D

[barbtries]

74. well i like you!

and your chihuahua who is damn near as cute as MY chihuahua


and for what's it worth, i'm with you. when it's all said and done the important thing is to get the bushies out of power. any democratic candidate stands head and shoulders above any repuke.

[DawgHouse]

76. Me too Skinner.

[TomClash]

77. I like it oo and try to do it except

there's one candidate I may not be doing it for anymore.

[happygoluckytoyou]

78. 9 GREAT DEMOCRATS..... IM BACKING EDWARDS --- BUT REMEMBER

MAKE CERTAIN YOUR KIDS AND YOU ARE REGISTERED

IF YOU ARE A MINORITY ---OR--- EXPECT ANY OTHER BULLSHIT AT THE POLLS....

----REGISTER NOW TO VOTE BY MAIL !!!!!

AND DUE TO THE EXPECTED HIGH TURNOUT.... REMIND YOUR FRIENDS THAT

DEMOCRATS WILL BE VOTING ON NOVEMBER 4
REPUBLICANS WILL BE VOTING ON NOVEMBER 5


......NO MATTER WHO WINS THE PRIMARY...VOTE DEM... VOTE OFTEN

[politicasista]

80. I too like it when we support candidates, not tear others down to promote them n/t

[shaniqua6392]

81. My sentiments exactly!!

We should be so proud of each and every one of them. The media is paying attention to all of our great Dems too because they know there is going to be one in the White House really soon!! Yippee! I don't even care which one it is because I know we will finally get something done to get our country back. The most important thing is to get someone in there who will care for those who are in need get us out of Iraq and to restore our rights. Thanks for the pep talk Skinner. You are so right.

[SunDrop23]

82. Agree 100%, I don't understand all the infighting. We MUST stick together...

especially when we get a nom. So it is not my first choice or even my second choice, the person will have a (D) by his or her name and that's what matters.

[Andromeda]

83. I feel the same way, Skinner...

We need to be more supportive of all of our candidates instead of directing so much hate towards a candidate we don't support.

I'm feeling very glum because my candidate isn't doing too well but that doesn't mean I won't support whomever wins.

Thanks for the post.

[frog92969]

84. It's their job to make you think that

they're decent people, so you can't look at them for that answer.
I hate to be a party pooper, but you have to investigate them and their voting record to see who owns them and if they will act in YOUR best interest.

Go on, flame away, but I am deeply dismayed by the three people who have the best chance.

[MadMaddie]

85. Rock on Skinner!! They are all decent people....and they

are one of us.

:toast:

[King Coal]

86. I know what you mean, but, I can't get over the "impeachment is off the table".

I'm concerned that we may not get the best of our candidates nominated.

[obxhead]

92. yes

"impeachment is off the table".





A very good point.

[King Coal]

96. Yeppers. Impeachment, by definition, can never be off the table.

[obxhead]

99. I believe

Although I can't find the quote right now, that Mcgovern said today that dick and shrub are both far more deserving of impeachment than Nixon ever was.

Again way off the point of this thread.

[King Coal]

104. Threads are dynamic. Don't worry about it. Tangents happen.

[obxhead]

89. I'm a Dem through and through,

but Ron Paul gets my vote. He seems like the only real dem out there. Too bad hell will freeze before he even gets a chance.

[King Coal]

90. Uh, does a real democrat want to get rid of the IRS and Social Security?

[obxhead]

91. hmmm

SS has failed. Yes, it has failed because of plundering, not the idea,but it has failed. The IRS... don't even get me started.

btw, did you know that any income over 90K is SS exempt.


As I said I'm a Dem, but the Dem's have failed us. I do not know the answer. I do not claim to have the solution. I know that the Dem's we have now are not it.


Flame me, go right ahead. I'm sure it will help.

[King Coal]

94. It is not exempt, that is where the cap is. And removing the cap is

is a simple way of fixing the problem. You are right about the plundering. Ron Paul is a libertarian. You may fall in there too. I'd like to start you up on the IRS. What is your solution?

[obxhead]

98. This is not the correct thread for that problem

Our problems are far greater than the SS or the IRS. As the only thought I'll drop here on the IRS...

Until we fix the current problem with the "corporation" we can not correct the many problems with the IRS. Until the corporation loses its status as an "individual" granted all the rights that the constitution offers a genuine citizen, we will continue to remain doomed.

I fight with all the DU'ers... We've had our issues, but I fight WITH you for the most part.

I am terribly disappointed with the outcome of our early primaries though. ditto goes for our available candidates. This seems like the same empty promises that 2006 has given us.

[King Coal]

105. Were you potty trained at gun point. Don't worry about what threat it is.

[obxhead]

107. I was trying to respect skinners thoughts.

I had a bad reply to begin with.

It's thread by the way, I was making no threats.

[ColesCountyDem]

93. I agree.

Very well said.

:)

[AZBlue]

95. This is one of my favorite things on DU:

I especially like it when a DUer sticks up for one presidential candidate, even though they support a different candidate.

[eppur_se_muova]

97. Let the "my candidate is more decent than your candidate" flamewars begin! nt

[SusanaMontana41]

100. Yeah baby!

Will be standing behind my party's nominee 100 percent. Wish I could be at home or at a victory party on Election Day, but I work for a newspaper ...

[efhmc]

101. Really, I find the sexism here to be strong and on going.

I am not a Hillary supporter in any way but the sexist comments that are allowed here are amazing!!! They would never be allowed if they were comments about a person's skin color or sexual orientation but having a vagina makes one fair game.

[tavalon]

106. I'm with you, but it begs the question,

how do you feel when DUers trash each others candidates?

ps Why did I get a flu vaccine and how does the flu manage to make me feel like discorporating?