I watched the debate tonight and I did not see any "Dean Scream"moment.

[Dhalgren]

What is everyone talking about? I saw her respond to the suggestion that she was not an agent of change; she was animated and passionate, but I saw nothing for her to be ashamed of or "regret". Maybe I missed it, cause I have no idea what everyone is so "up" about...

:shrug:

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. i saw the youtube video

and i was waiting and waiting for the "angry" moment to show up, and I didn't see it.

I don't know what people are talking about.

Well, I guess you have to talk about something.

[shawmut]

2. I watched the video and was waiting for something to happen

and nothing did. I don't see it.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. We are witnessing a media hit against Clinton

It will be interesting to see how many Democratic voters who may have problems with Clinton for one or more legitimate reasons are willing to stand up against this type of media manipulation being mobilized through this particular debate meme being floated against her.

[Dhalgren]

17. Well, I am not a Clinton supporter, but I think that this is a ridiculous

attempt to create a controversy where none exists. I think that the "top three' did very well in the debate. None have anything to be regretful about. I liked Edwards' performance the best, but all did well for themselves. This "Dean moment" crap is just that - crap...

[patrice]

3. There wasn't one.

I liked it when Hillary got angry and I'm not even a supporter. It seemed genuine to me.

Some people just want to make like political savants or something, so they say shit like that whether it's true or not. And others REALLY do want to do the Democratic party harm by creating enmity between Democrats supporting different candidates.

P.S. I liked Dean's scream too, but what Hillary did tonight, while it was genuine like Dean's scream, was, otherwise, not the same thing.

[dailykoff]

4. I just saw it and it was priceless.

:rofl:

[journalist3072]

5. You didn't see it because it didn't happen. It's just like I said in another thread

I have learned not to believe ANYTHING I read here on DU, without first checking into it myself.

People can be so disingenuous and misleading on here, and just outright lie.

It's really a shame.

[KennedyGuy]

6. HOPE springs eternalthey gotta hold on to something..

[Dhalgren]

9. You know, I do not support Senator Clinton, at all. I just don't think

she is who we, as a nation, need at this point in time. That being said, I just cannot understand why people do these things - like make this response of hers out to be something "damaging". It is so stupid - there is just not a "there" there...

[sandnsea]

7. promising "false hope" was the real moment

But I don't know if anybody is going to pick up on it. She was a little unhinged, but I don't think it will be really damaging.

[BenDavid]

8. You won't. HRC saw the double team coming from O&E and

in that fire and passion response to both of them she scored over them. Not that was what we call court savy......

[dailykoff]

10. The worse part is that it looked phony.

Real passion is one thing but canned passion is best left to professional actors, and Hillary is not a pro.

[NMMNG]

11. It was a pretty good smack down really

Now that I've seen the real event in context it's much easier to judge it for what it was. It wasn't what many are making it out to be.

[DesertRat]

12. It didn't happen.

I watched the whole debate.

[superkia]

14. She should have just addressed what he said about being...

status quo, instead it looked like she was actually angry. I didn't get the same affect watching that clip on youtube but I watched the debate and she didn't represent herself well. Everyone has their point of view of how she responded and I guess some thought it was fine, I myself didn't. Again, I watched the debate, I'm not sure how it comes across to everyone else on that little clip. Whoever posted that clip probably should have posted the whole interaction because to me, her face told me that she was probably reacting in an angry way? To each his own.

[Dhalgren]

18. I watched the debate, I am not a Clinton supporter, and I saw nothing

that was untoward or over the top. She reacted passionately, but that is not a "bad thing". I just don't get the reaction some folks are having. You say you saw something, I didn't - I guess that is just how it stands...

[dailykoff]

15. good grief she did it again

two tantrums and counting. . .

[Cass]

16. Neither did many people.

Passion and forcefulness in a woman is sometimes painted in an unflattering light.

[Dhalgren]

19. You may be right. But it is disappointing to see so many people here

displaying that kind of...attitude regarding what I saw as reasonable passion and forcefulness given the debate setting.

[Cass]

20. Agreed.

100% :thumbsup:

[K8-EEE]

21. I didn't even think the Dean Scream was a Dean Scream moment

I tend not to get freaked out at these things that freak other people out so much. I don't think Hillary was bad and I don't think name a few states pep rally like and going arrrgh or whatever is that bad

I think it's because I tend to watch them in context, they get spun after the fact and the suff sort of mutates.

[aaronbees]

22. "Dean Scream" was fiction and so is this ...

And I'm an Obama supporter. I don't think Sen. Clinton was particularly savvy in her response to Edwards/Obama going after her and defending their views on "change," but I didn't see any kind of response that other (i.e., male) candidates have offered during tense moments in the debates. She was just passionate and forceful - nothing wrong with that. In terms of presentation and image, it was just fine - maybe even good for her, in my opinion.