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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:11 AM
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CNN's polling firm (Opinion Research) owner once donated lots of money to the Clintons
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 11:12 AM by antiimperialist
Before analyzing the CNN/Opinion Research poll released today, it is important to know the conflict of interest present:

From the New York Times (July, 2007)

Many wealthy people have raised money for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign. But only Vinod Gupta has named a school building in India after her.


Mr. Gupta, who arrived in Nebraska from India in 1967, was unusually successful in working his way into the Democratic fold, to the point where he found himself sleeping in the Clinton White House, vacationing with the former president and appointing the Democratic chairman, Terry McAuliffe, to the board of one of his companies. He gave consulting contracts worth $3 million to Mr. Clinton, and recently hired the son of Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Because of those close links with Democrats, he stirred conflict-of-interest questions by buying a company that does presidential polling for CNN.


To be fair to Gupta, the NYT added
But if he normally wears his friendship with the Clintons on his sleeve, it has been a lot less visible lately. The Clinton campaign began to distance itself from Mr. Gupta after reports that his data-marketing company, infoUSA, sold call lists to unscrupulous telemarketers, and accusations that he wasted millions of dollars on perks for himself and the Clintons. Mr. Gupta, in turn, skipped a Clinton fund-raiser he helped put together last month in New York, and now says he is no longer involved in the campaign.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/14/us/politics/14gupta.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

Still, to me it is obvious that in order to help Clinton with his polls he had to say he is no longer linked to them.

Give me your comments please.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:13 AM
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1. Surprise Surprise ......NOT
I wonder if Taylor Marsh will put this on her blog and radio show.....LMAO!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:16 AM
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2. If you have evidence that their polls are tainted
post it, if not then these dots you're trying to connect go nowhere.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:17 AM
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3. I'm talking about the conflict of interest. I'm not a prosecutor
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 11:21 AM by antiimperialist
Isn't conflict of interest a concern to you? Don't you trust a polling firm owned by a person without this problem?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:23 AM
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6. On Edit
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 11:35 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
I Was Incorrect
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:21 AM
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4. What
Vinod Gupta owns InfoUSA:

http://infousa.com/VinGuptaCharitable.htm


Opionion Research is a separate entity:


http://www.opinionresearch.com/



There's no link betwen them...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:23 AM
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5. Thank you.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:36 AM
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13. On Edit- I Unintentrionally Misled You
I apologize...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:39 AM
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15. Ok thanks,
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 11:40 AM by seasonedblue
(my laptop's freezing up on me, ouch, so I may leave posts unattended today :-()
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:23 AM
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7. InfoUSA owns Opinion Research and...
The NY Times article makes it clear that he raised eyebrows "by buying a company that does presidential polling for CNN."

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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:32 AM
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9. Even Info USA says Opinion Research is "an InfoUSA company"
How can A and B be separate entities if "A is a B company"?

And why is InfouUSA all happy to report the agreement whereby Opinion Research became the CNN pollster?

http://ir.infousa.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=96263&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=949838&highlight=
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:34 AM
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11. I Stand Corrected
But how does that affect his results...His results are confirmed by other polls...
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:36 AM
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14. There is no way to know
I'm raising the conflict of interest issue.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:44 AM
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17. But His Poll Is Confirmed By Other Polls
It's not important to me if you want to discount his poll or any poll because you feel the pollster is conflicted but for your assertion to rise from the level of ipse dixit reasoning to proof you would need evidence...

I originally denied a nexus between Gupta and Opinion Research but after doing some research I found out I was incorrect and admitted I was wrong...

If you have evidence Gupta massages the numbers for Clinton or any candidate you should produce it...The quickest way to test the proposition that Gupta is massaging the numbers for Clinton is compare his polls to other available polls of the same vintage...Let's do just that:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html

I'll let others draw their own inferences
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:35 AM
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12. There is a very strong link: Opinion Research is a InfoUSA company
From the InfoUSA website:

Opinion Research Corporation, an infoUSA company, has offered innovative solutions to the toughest market research challenges of clients worldwide since 1938.

http://ir.infousa.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=96263&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=949838&highlight=
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:31 AM
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8. Well Oprah's polling company is supporting Obama what the
hell's the difference.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:33 AM
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10. What's the name of Oprah's polling company? n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:51 AM
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19. you really do make up shit
to post about anything to do with obama or anyone connected to him and anyone who supports him....i wonder what you think of the supporters of obama on this website....
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:40 AM
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16. Blitzer; "but can they beat Hillary" a setup to begin with...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:45 AM
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18. he has two institutes in India--->
one named after bill and the other after hillary...
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