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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:46 PM
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Has Hillary Found Her #2? Speculation about Bob Kerrey
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20071226/cm_rcp/has_hillary_found_her2

Polls show McCain running the best against all potential Democratic opponents, and particularly well versus Clinton. McCain against Clinton would be a tough race for Clinton, as she would be on the short end of various measures with voters, including perceptions of character, warmth, humor, authenticity, military background, and experience.

So how do you run against a war hero and a former prisoner of war? Well, with one of your own, albeit a younger one -- a Medal of Honor winner, and a man who lost a leg in Vietnam: Bob Kerrey. Add to this that Kerrey has a reputation as the "good Kerrey" (as opposed to the haughty John), and has a reputation as a budget-balancing Midwestern moderate. Kerrey would help the ticket in the most competitive Midwestern states where the election is likely to be decided: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio, and maybe Pennsylvania.

There would be a juicy irony in all this, if it happens. Bob Kerrey ran against Bill Clinton for the Democratic nomination for President in 1992. Kerrey's key backer was New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. When Moynihan retired from the Senate, Hillary Clinton succeeded him in New York. As a Senator, Kerrey had an icy relationship with President Bill Clinton, at one point calling him an "unusually good liar" after Clinton made certain commitments to Kerrey about future spending cuts in order to win his vote (the decisive one) on a tax increase package in 1993. Clinton never followed through on the spending cuts.

As to the objection that Hillary Clinton and Bob Kerry are both New York State residents, and according to the 12th Amendment, New York State's Electoral College voters could not therefore vote for both, that problem is easily solved by having Kerrey switch his registration back to Nebraska (or any other state) early next year. A similar issue was raised about George Bush and Dick Cheney both being Texas residents in 2000 (when Cheney ran Halliburton), but Cheney was officially a Wyoming resident at election time.

In the last few weeks, there have been stories about how the Clinton White House would operate if Hillary won, and how Bill, as the power behind the throne, might intimidate Cabinet members and advisors. These stories have not helped Hillary, who has fallen behind in head-to-head races with most potential GOP opponents. There is nothing fresh or new (and no real change agent material) about a Clinton restoration and rehashing the very complicated relationship between Bill and Hillary. The man generally considered the world's neediest narcissist would not meekly disappear within a Hillary White House.

But what if Bob Kerrey would be there as the VP? Trying to navigate the psychodrama of the Hillary-Bill relationship at that point, and how the presence of a new strong man around Hilary would impact this, is better left for the psychiatric couches of America. But if Kerrey helped Hillary to get elected, and Bill were his usual double edged sword in that contest, the relationship might change even before an inauguration.

But most important for Hillary is getting elected. This is a woman who has been laser focused on that goal for decades. If Bob Kerrey is the man who brings the most to the ticket, expect it to happen, whatever Bill might think about it.

* I thank my wife Lijana for suggesting Kerrey as the ideal running mate for Hillary.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:47 PM
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1. is this because Joementum went with McCain?
man, that's really burning her up.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:47 PM
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2. Kerrey bought and paid for the VP slot by sliming Obama.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:14 PM
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11. Agree and I'm so NOT ready to talk about #2
Unless it's Edwards/Obama = The 16 Year Team Democrat :)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:30 PM
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18. either or both would be a vast improvement
on that we most certainly agree

:toast:
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:50 PM
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3. you really expect her to pick an actual progressive
Not a chance from one of the figureheads of the DLC.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:54 PM
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4. I'm not sure if Kerrey was involved in the Nebraska scandals
during the Savings & Loan days, such as the Franklin cover-up, but I'd really be afraid to have him on the ticket with even the specter of that out there.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:00 PM
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5. Kerrey is kind of a loose canon,
and he has a war-story problem, too.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:42 PM
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14. He's the kind of loose cannon
who could end up shooting holes in a Hillary administration. The guy is not a team player.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:02 PM
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6. Well...both he and Hillary are tangled up with indicted Hillraiser Norman Hsu...
They deserve each other.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:05 PM
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7. Dumb idea...he'll spend the entire campaign explaining what he meant the previous day
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:08 PM
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8. Doubtful he doesn't add much of anything to the ticket
Kerrey's a pretty charismatic guy, although not quite as much as Bill Clinton. But he has baggage from the Thanh Phong incident. Also, the last thing she needs is an unmarried man who is famous for his sexcapades.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:15 PM
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12. He's married now
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 07:17 PM by karynnj
His wife was a Saturday Night Live writer, Sarah Paley and they have a young son. By the way, he is the bad, unpredictable Kerrey. John Kerry is the better statesman, diplomat and person.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:08 PM
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9. Best VP for either Hillary or Obama is Wes Clark
And he is more progressive
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:12 PM
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10. OH, good, let's dig up his Viet Nam shooting incident....
:sarcasm:
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:40 PM
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13. I'm still betting on Bill Richardson as Hillary's
#2. Western, Hispanic governor, with a ton of experience(cabinet member, multi term congresscritter from NM, special envoy etc), he is actually the most qualified candidate in either party. But he's fat and dumpy and not charismatic so he has no shot at the #1 spot.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:49 PM
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15. He's probably the most qualified
but he's got major personal skeletons in his closet-- enough to make Bill Clinton look like a choirboy
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:50 PM
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16. I agree -- he's a much better choice
I'd stay away from Bob Kerrey -- way too much baggage.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:53 PM
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17. I think Wes Clark is a better choice...
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 07:53 PM by seasonedblue
a much better choice.

:7
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:50 PM
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19. I don't see it - picking a guy like Kerrey (or Clark)
would be seen as an admission of weakness in foreign policy -
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