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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:09 PM
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Would you hire a plumber, or electrician, or heart surgeon, or CEO, who had 1 year experience?
It's a serious question.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:10 PM
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1. Would you hire a plumber, or electrician, or heart surgeon, or CEO
most of whose experience was having been married to a plumber, or electrician, or heart surgeon, or CEO?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:13 PM
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6. Just as silly
Since this would be relevant only if the plumber heart surgeon or CEO had included them in the workings of the job for many years.

Metaphors and analogies only work when they are relevant.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:17 PM
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7. Relavancy, right.
Edited on Sat Dec-22-07 08:26 PM by FogerRox
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:19 PM
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11. Well it's not a "meme"but it is crap I'll grant you that. NT
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:26 PM
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15. hmm, edited to "frame"
thanks
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:21 PM
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13. And what if that heart surgeon or plumber voted for the Kyle/Lieberman amendment?
:rofl: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:12 PM
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2. How is a plumber or heart surgeon etc supposed to become experienced
If nobody will hire them after one year? Somebody has to be every surgeon's first living patient. You surely trust their experience and education and the skills of their mentors and trainers.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:12 PM
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5. surgeons have residency periods
"on the job training"

Bush had that too and Cheney was his mentor.

It turned out great, don't you think?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:18 PM
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9. Stupid metaphor stretched even more stupidly
Unless you can think of something that applies, just say what you think and stop trying to be cute. It's not like such transparent sophomorisms are thought-provoking or original.

Anyone who thinks such jobs are comparable is an idiot. Nobody CAN have more than entry-level journeyman exeperience at being president (8 years at most), and nobody can have any at all the first time they are elected. Being a Senator or even a Governor is no more or less experience for the presidency than being an activist or leader of a charitable organization or corporation. It's not thatthe basic responsibilities of the job aren't easily grasped by a ten year old. The rest is all in charisma, decision making skills, and the ability to lead and manage people. There are numerous wasy to gather, and demonstrate, these skills.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:35 PM
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27. Bring back Jimmy Carter!
All other living Democrats would either require "on the job training" or are not eligible to run for the office.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:17 PM
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19. Plumbers and electricians go thru apprenticeship
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:12 PM
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3. Only if they could carry a Southern State...
Otherwise its all a waste of time...



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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:23 PM
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14. :)
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:42 PM
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29. Thanks.
Just so curious why no one will state the obvious.



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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:15 PM
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31. Honestly
In general, I think a lot of people here get caught up in the passion of supporting a candidate without looking closely at their candidates "cons" as well as their "pros".
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:12 PM
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4. Depends on how hard they work, and how good the work is.
Obama is a much better plumber, electrician, heart surgeon, CEO than Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney.

Rumsfeld and Cheney have plenty of experience.

And they both suck.

I don't care HOW much time Obama has spent in WASHINGTON.

He's been a public servant and in public life for A LOT more than one year.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:17 PM
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8. Oh geezus Herman.......


Are you going for the record of creating "anti" threads today, or what...

Scroll down the board and look at how many silly threads you've created.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:19 PM
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10. oh dear lord, here we go again n/t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:19 PM
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12. It would depend on their reputation and what school they went to.
If everything added up, then most certainly.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:32 PM
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16. There are posters with less experience.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:35 PM
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17. So should Tony Blair run for President...
I mean, seriously, there is no previous job qualification that prepares one for being the head of state -- other than being the head of state in another country. So may Blair or Howard should be our candidate.

I'm not even a Hillary supporter, and I find your question offensive and patent stupid in equal measures.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:37 PM
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18. No way-
I'd find some old fart, who does it just like everyone else has done it for years. Gosh, this is America, the last thing we want is innovation, right?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:18 PM
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20. Depends on the job
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:18 PM
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21. nice ridiculous propaganda
:thumbsup:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:26 PM
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22. yes
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:28 PM
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23. Yes I would, if they were good ones. Who has just one year experience being President? nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:29 PM
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24. Many DUers are perfectly willing to have a greenhorn at the helm, but America isn't. (eom)
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:31 PM
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25. They are all greenhorns. nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:36 PM
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28. Some are more wet-behind-the-ears than others.(eom)
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:31 PM
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26. If you needed heart surgery, would you choose the fuck-off doctor who is up to her eyeballs
Edited on Sat Dec-22-07 10:31 PM by jefferson_dem
in malpractice lawsuits?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:44 PM
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30. I don't know what you're talking about.
All the candidates running for President have more than one year of experience.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:19 PM
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32. Would you hire a heart surgeon's wife to do your operation?
I mean she's MARRIED to a heart surgeon for Christ's sake!! She's fully qualified to do a quadruple bypass.!!
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