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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:02 AM
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Clinton Makes Himself the Story
December 21, 2007
Clinton Makes Himself the Story
By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON -- Hillary Clinton tells audiences that having lived in the White House for eight eventful years, she's eager to take charge as president on "day one." Apparently, though, so is Bill.

Before the Clinton campaign's recent shift to themes of warmth and approachability, a major weapon against the Barack Obama insurgency was the argument that Hillary could move right in and get to work on reforming health care or restructuring foreign policy. She wouldn't need to spend months learning how to work the buttons on the Oval Office telephone.

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Sexism might have something to do with the fact that Hillary Clinton has to answer questions about her husband that the other candidates never get asked about their wives. But Bill Clinton has always had a way of making himself the story, and he's at it again.

When the Clintons made a campaign stop at an Iowa grocery store Tuesday, Hillary's face said it all. She realized that Bill had departed from the script and wandered off to another part of the store, and cameras caught her scanning the aisles with a look of sheer terror. Bill was supposed to be at Hillary's side; instead he was way over yonder, giving an interview to "Entertainment Tonight." What was supposed to be a controlled photo-op had suddenly turned into a happening.

Spontaneity gives ulcers to campaign staffers, but the supermarket stop got much more coverage than it would have if Bill had followed the script. He ended up drawing more attention to himself than the candidate -- which is in keeping with his formal campaign speeches. On the stump, he draws big crowds and comes off as charming, eloquent and persuasive. But reporters who have tallied his words say he talks more about himself than about his wife -- at a ratio of about 9 to 1.

The real problem comes when Bill goes off-message. Campaigning in South Carolina on Monday, he said that Hillary's "No. 1 priority" as president would be to send a group of notables -- including himself and former President George Bush the Elder -- on an around-the-world mission to repair America's image.

As one might expect, Poppy didn't react well at all to the implication that his son, George Bush the Younger, had sullied that image. He issued a frosty statement saying no one had ever talked to him about any such mission, and that anyway no such thing was needed, and that besides -- remember? -- he's a Republican.

That episode shows what Hillary Clinton might face in the White House.

After his eight years as president, and nearly seven as a millionaire statesman/philanthropist/philosopher, is Bill Clinton capable of following any script? He's used to saying whatever he wants to say, whenever he wants to say it. And he's a talented improviser, always overflowing with ideas -- some of them brilliant, some half-baked -- that he can't wait to share with his listeners.

Does anyone think that William Jefferson Clinton would confine himself to the bland, inoffensive pronouncements we've come to expect from presidential spouses? I'd give him two weeks of ribbon-cuttings and ceremonial visits before he felt compelled -- and perhaps entitled -- to jump into policy. Clearly, the smart thing would be to give him a portfolio of his own rather than let him play hopscotch.

But how would anyone keep him on the reservation? How would anyone tone down his charisma? And what would happen if a new Clinton administration gutted one of the accomplishments of the old Clinton administration? One potential case in point is the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Hillary now says has to be modified. If she were to keep that campaign promise, would Bill just smile sweetly on his way to the next East Room reception?

What people think of Bill Clinton and his presidency is grist for other columns. For now, I'm asking a simpler question: Since the Constitution provides for one president, not two, could he find a way to live in a White House that wasn't all about him?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/12/clinton_makes_himself_the_stor.html

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:11 AM
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1. "and it has no precedent in American history"
Grover Cleveland.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:32 AM
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2. interesting. and robinson raises some good/valid points. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:34 AM
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3. it sucks to be a candidate not married
to the best American politician in 50 years.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:23 AM
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7. Yeah, but it's a bitch to be married to him, too.
He's gregarious and she isn't. He's got a politician's ego and mouth. And the law doesn't allow her to put him on a leash and stick a rubber bone between his teeth.

There are gonna be days she's gonna wanna kill 'im.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:49 AM
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4. Some thought provoking points. It would be difficult for a former President
to move back into the WH as 'the spouse'. Might be a fine line between advising and stepping in...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:20 AM
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6. If the First Lady is a man, do you think they'll finally make it a salaried job?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:27 PM
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9. I don't know, but I can't help but remember how quickly Viagra was covered by
insurance, but birth control wasn't. :shrug:

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:57 AM
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5. This is the argument for Hillary though...
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 03:58 AM by lvx35
Its not about her as an individual, its about her AND Bill Clinton, and Wes Clark etc as a team...and really, its a pretty compelling argument as far as power goes. That group could accomplish a lot, even with the mad corruption we have from the republican party these days.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:36 AM
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8. Kick for being self-centered.
:kick:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:28 PM
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10. Great source.
:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:47 PM
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12. Now you have a gripe against Eugene Robinson?
:rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:44 PM
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15. Do you even know who Eugene Robinson is?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:42 PM
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11. He's impossible to keep in line as a husband and a campaigner...
He could be a real pain in the butt back in the WH!
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:51 PM
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13. I don't think he wants to be the first male first lady...
So, perhaps he's doing his best not to become one.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:34 PM
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14. I can't imagine Bill Clinton playing second fiddle at the White House.
It seems he's almost intentionally undermining her campaign.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:56 PM
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16. But....
"And he's a talented improviser, always overflowing with ideas -- some of them brilliant, some half-baked...."
They are only half baked because he "didnt inhale".
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