Boo Hoo - Hillary's Getting Tougher Coverage...........

[global1]

I thought she is one tough lady - a force to be reckoned with - but apparently she doesn't like the coverage she is getting in this campaign. Too tough.

[rinsd]

1. Toughest coverage in the race and she's still doing very well.

I would say that makes her one tough lady.

Compare that to Obama who has gotten extremely positive coverage bitching about being the most scrutinized.

[BeyondGeography]

13. Billy Shaheen never happened then?

I love it how you guys are setting up this tough coverage myth while Clinton's surrogates are out there "vetting" Obama with bullshit smears.

There can't be a Hillary without an accompanying faux martyrdom theme, can there? That's why the lady gives me cramps.

And, before you call BS, don't force me to dredge up every salivating review of her competent debate performances apart from the disaster in Philly.

[Evergreen Emerald]

18. wait a minute. There is proof that Obama's minons did similar things

are they fired? Has Obama apologized? Is it all over the media?

The double standard here on DU is amazing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

19. Clinton has been slammed in the press for a decade. She is tough

The problem is that the media is slamming her unfairly distorting, twisting, lying, about her and her record.

They have an agenda. And they are the ones who slammed Gore and gave a leg-up to Bush to get into the white house. I just thought we had learned our lessons from the past.

I fear that we have not, as I read DU who just continues to repeat the lies and distortions as if fact and then spew hate based on the lies.

[BeyondGeography]

20. What planet are you living on?

Which Obama campaign co-chair asked the media if Hillary had ever dealt drugs? Which Obama surrogate repeatedly used a charged word like madrasssa to paint a misleading picture of who she really is? The only comparable report on Obama's campaign that I'm aware of is an operative sidling up to a reporter and asking when they were going to do a story on Bill's girlfriends. If you think that measures up to Team Clinton's Obama smearfest, you have failed the equivalency test.

[Evergreen Emerald]

21. For some reason, when Obama does something no one notices...

You are minimizing the dirty tricks proving the double standard again.


http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011506.php

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That said, there are others who ought to resign or be fired as well - although I would guess that Chris Matthews and Joe Trippi* don't agree. For example (emphasis mine, throughout this post):

<Obama's> campaign staffers, too, have become frustrated by the focus of the media’s attention, specifically that the press has not covered Clinton in the way they expected it would. During an interview this summer, Obama’s friend Valerie Jarrett said to me, unbidden, “He is a man who is devoted to his wife. There aren’t going to be any skeletons in his closet in terms of his personal life at all. Period.” And at a campaign event in Iowa, one of Obama’s aides plopped down next to me and spoke even more bluntly. He wanted to know when reporters would begin to look into Bill Clinton’s postpresidential sex life.

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Unlike the Clinton campaign, which has the bad habit of firing people or making people resign when they do things they should not be doing, another campaign had (has?) a different standard on smears:

Asked about the document <Hillary Clinton, D-Punjab>, Bill Burton, a spokesman for Mr. Obama, said: “We did give reporters a series of comments she made on the record and other things that are publicly available to anyone who has access to the Internet. I don’t see why anyone would take umbrage with that.”

Asked why the Obama campaign had initially insisted that it not be connected to the document, Mr. Burton replied, “I’m going to leave my comment at that.” ..

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And I didn't see any firings or resignations after this incident either:

In August, Obama’s team scored a significant hit by helping to place a story in several newspapers revealing that Norman Hsu, a major Clinton donor, had skipped town after having pleaded no contest to a charge of grand theft 15 years earlier and still faced an outstanding warrant... (Hsu had also contributed to Obama.)

Obama's free passes

[rinsd]

28. Journo school did a study of the 1st 6 months of coverage

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN3056657120071030

Tough coverage is not a myth.

Tell me you did not hold in a guffaw when Burton called Obama the most scrutinized candidate?

[BeyondGeography]

36. Who needs tough coverage on Obama

when Team Restoration is generating it themselves with their smears?

[Dems Will Win]

38. She is very tough. But I think Obama may be wearing her out

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5806861,00.jpg

[rinsd]

39. Ah yes because it wasn't enough to hear Rush talk about it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. Why Don't You Post Your Picture

I bet I would vomit in my mouth...

[Bitwit1234]

2. Shame is the one who should be covered is allowed to skate free

they are afraid they will be ruled one of "those" if they do. So they don't post anything. That's OK, Hillary has the class and character to weather they storm, the other guy doesn't.

[Name removed]

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[durrrty libby]

3. She is not complaining. Mark Halperin political analyst from Time

did a piece talking about media bias toward her

So boohoo yourself for not getting a simple story straight


...............

Haters=ignorant clowns:spank:

[Windy]

4. She's not. She is getting attention because she's playing dirty politics.

If she didn't want the negative coverage, she shouldn't have gone into the gutter...

Lets see...

Kindergarten gate
Email re: muslim school
Comments re: "drug abuse" "selling drugs"
Kerrey mentioning madrasa and muslim... (oh wait, it was in a kind way... :sarcasm:)
"rolling the dice" with Obama...

Penn using the word "cocaine" relative to Obama in a national tv interview....


I really don't want to hear about poor little Hill getting picked on.

Its really pathetic!

[ccpup]

7. see Post #5

[beaconess]

8. Because we all know Hillary never got negative coverage before a month ago

:sarcasm:

[durrrty libby]

10. I find your warped interpretation pathetic. No sarcasm intended

[ccpup]

5. get your facts straight

before embarrassing yourself. It was a piece written about her and not by her. :eyes:

[durrrty libby]

9. The Clowns glom onto a phrase then put their giant clown feet

into their flapping clown lips.

It's a science:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

[Lucinda]

11. I disagree

Main Entry: sci·ence
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; perhaps akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split — more at shed
Date: 14th century

1: the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
2 a: a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology> b: something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>
3 a: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b: such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science



I'm not sure what to call a lot of the crap posted around here, but it ain't science. :D

[durrrty libby]

15. lol ... Yes Clown Science needs some tweeking

[William769]

12. Makes her strong, I'm glad to see it.

Unlike some people crying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3864760&mesg_id=3864760

[jenmarie]

14. From Josh Marshall

Who's crying now?

You're Kidding Me, Right?

I really hope the Obama camp is kidding when they say Barack is the most scrutinized candidate in the race. If they're not, they're living in a fantasy world that makes me question whether they're up to the rigors of a national campaign.

Let me be clear: there's legitimate scrutiny of legislative records, policy positions, personal finances, history of decisions made in tough, pressure-filled situations (the only really legitimate meaning of character), etc. There's been some of that and should probably be more.

Then there's the collective assault that constitutes modern press 'scrutiny', especially for a Democrat who generally has to deal with the tag team of the national political press and the regrettably much more able and ruthless GOP oppo research cadre, which has an established feeding operation mainlined to most national political reporters.

It ain't fair; it ain't right; but it's the reality. And if he thinks he's already gotten that, well ... what's he been smoking?

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/061452.php

[Cameron27]

16. She most certainly is one tough lady,

and she's not the one who wrote about the biased media coverage:

"She's just held to a different standard in every respect," says Mark Halperin, Time's editor at large. "The press rooted for Obama to go negative, and when he did he was applauded. When she does it, it's treated as this huge violation of propriety." While Clinton's mistakes deserve full coverage, Halperin says, "the press's flaws -- wild swings, accentuating the negative -- are magnified 50 times when it comes to her. It's not a level playing field." Mark Halperin/Times

"Just to be clear, I'm not defending all of Bill's media criticism here, and Camp Hillary of course bears blame for its own screw-ups. Still, Bill's basic underlying point -- that the records of the contenders get too little attention while poll numbers, haircuts, and cackles get too much, frequently at Hillary's expense -- is glaringly apparent to everyone except for the pundits and commentators who spend all their time talking about such things.

Anyway, this might not have been worth bothering with if weren't a reminder that this sort of recurrent nonsense, combined with the duo of Chris Matthews and Tucker Carlson, has made MSNBC truly unbearable this campaign season -- worse even than Fox, if that's possible. And this blog's coverage of Campaign 2008 wouldn't be complete without giving the above honorable mention as easily the most ridiculous media self-defense we've seen yet." Greg Sargent/TPM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121802184_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2007121900011

[KennedyGuy]

17. Puh-leeze..the absolute pants crapping that the Obama folks do

whenever anyone dares criticize Obama is even more pathetic...
Hill can take the heat without having to run to Oprah..
to quote Chimpy..
Bring it on...

[jenmito]

22. Bill Clinton complained about the media when they had the "nerve" to cover his remarks about being

against the war from the beginning. Why does he have to lie in the first place and then complain about the coverage? Why does he have to protect his wife from the "boys" and now the media? I thought she liked being "in the kitchen"!

[BeyondGeography]

23. And that mean David Gregory the other day on the Today Show

:cry:

[jenmito]

24. Oh yeah. God forbid someone tries to make her answer a question!

:eyes:

[Arugula Latte]

25. Hey -- She's INEVITABLE!!

Don't you people get that?!?!

How dare they question the Great and Powerful Hillary!




:sarcasm:

[Cameron27]

26. She's never claimed to be inevitable

but it sure gets everyone outraged when someone claims she did.

[durrrty libby]

30. Too bad the haters only comprehend every other word.

Clown comprehension. It's the in thing to do

[jenmito]

31. Right-it's her turn...

So many people say that and even SHE said the nominee WILL be her. :eyes:

[durrrty libby]

29. The OP misunderstood unintentionally or intentionally

A piece was written by Mark Halpern political analyst from Time

It was his contention that the press is warped in their coverage of Hillary

He gave an example. He said the press encouraged and cheered on Obama to go negative on Hillary

He goes on to say that after weeks of putting up with Edwards and Obama attacks,
Hillary finally throws back and the press gets all pissy saying she is going negative

So with the press

1) Obama goes negative gets a :thumbsup:
2) Hillary goes negative gets a :thumbsdown:

This had nothing to do with Bill or anyone else complaining. It was a critique

by an analyst.

[jenmito]

32. I don't care about any article. I know Bill Clinton said something very similar.

And I saw the show with Halperin. He's full of it when he says Obama went negative. I specifically remember that the media was waiting for a big fight at the debate because Obama said he's going to "engage her more directly" and point out their differences. The media assumed he meant he was going to go negative. After the debate, the media seemed disappointed that Obama was still kind of gentle and commented that EDWARDS went on the attack.

Hillary, on the other hand, DID go negative. She started ridiculing Obama and doing oppo research from when he was in kindergarten. Then she had Billy Shaheen "questioning" possible drug dealing, and on and on.

Hillary has run the most negative campaign. That's why she's losing support.

[durrrty libby]

33. There are a lot of holes in your post. Probably intentional

but whatever.

[jenmito]

35. No there aren't. It was very complete.

But whatever.

Ohhh...you mean between the time Edwards went on the attack and Hillary and camp started "the fun part"? That was when Obama got all the good Oprah coverage, his numbers started going up BIG time among women and Black people and the Clintons started panicking. Hence the attacks. Thanks for reminding me. :hi:

[Radical Activist]

27. The media is obsessed with her.

She has been getting tough coverage all along and good coverage too.

[hayu_lol]

34. Hillary put up with years of Starr and his Star Chamber...

what would happen to Obama and Edwards--or for that matter, to you or me--under that kind of scrutiny with unlimited funds and personnel?

If you really listened to her when she explained her positions, you would find that she is attempting to make a dirty business(politics)as clean as possible. And, that this is just the primary, not the GE.

Bottom line here is I fear: He says...and thats ok/she says...and thats not ok. He/She. Thats the crux of this problem.

[Radical Activist]

37. I'm not sure

what you're getting at with the he/she stuff. Men have gotten the same level of scrutiny.

Edwards has been a national candidate before. People underestimate the crucible of Chicago and Illinois politics that Obama went through. I think all three are ready much more so than past candidates like Kerry or Clinton in '92.

[durrrty libby]

41. Interesting how you never had the guts to come back and defend the lies

[niceypoo]

42. Please quote where she says what you claim