I Liked This Board Better When We Were Bashing Republicans

[DemocratSinceBirth]

It was a lot more fun...They are the enemies, not other Democrats... They are the ones who:

- want to end affirmative action

- want to eliminate a woman's right to choose

- want to ensure gay folks are treated as second class citizens

- want to make sure that health care isn't available to all regardless of the ability to pay

- want a bellicose foreign policy

- want to immediately send back home all undocumented workers regardless of how long they have been here and how productive they are

And in the immortal words of Colonel Frank Slade "I'm just getting started."

Bashing Republicans is fun, bashing Democrats isn't...

[sandnsea]

1. lol, you liked it better when Hillary was winning n/t

[johncoby2]

3. case in point.

[johncoby2]

4. Completely agree.

It was a much different board a year ago.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. There's More To Being A Democrat Than Rooting For This Candidate Than That Candidate

I didn't stop being a Democrat when Jimmy Carter beat Ted Kennedy or Walter Mondale beat Gary Hart or Mike Dukakis beat Al Gore...

[ruggerson]

20. Yes, but you're a rational human being

the person you're responding to is not.

[cali]

6. perfect.

nice of you to provide such an excellent example of what's wrong.

[sandnsea]

22. Sad you buy the phony "truce" bullshit

These people will jump right back on the smear train the second Hillary's campaign sends out the directive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Do You Really Believe I Get Directives From The Clinton Campaign?

I wish I was that important...

[sandnsea]

25. She says truce, you stop bashing

:shrug:

Seems rather clear what you're doing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Nobody Tells Me What To Do

~

[sandnsea]

41. Well you're sure following

Whether you want to admit it to yourself or not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Admit What

I never started any anti-anybody threads in DU except anti-Republican threads...

[cali]

26. In situations like this, I'd rather be trusting and wrong than suspicous

and right or wrong. Also, I've never seen DSB smear anyone. He/she is a poster not a someone taking orders from the Clinton campaign. And I don't much like broad brush smears starting with "These people....".

[ruggerson]

30. Why are you trying to reason with her?

talk about an exercise in futility.

[sandnsea]

32. I prefer to look with my eyes open

and recognize what I see. If you can't recognize this ploy of the OP, I can see why you didn't recognize the other smear tactics and I know that you didn't.

[ruggerson]

35. Can we send you to Iowa as exhibit #1 of a fun, sane Obama supporter?

n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

12. Thanks for proving the OP's point so well

what an assholic response.

[sandnsea]

21. After months of shit from Hillary's supporters??

Now this? I'm supposed to take it seriously?

Oh I get it. This is more of that "truce" bullshit she's trying to spew. :eyes:

[cali]

29. When has DSB ever spewed bullshit on this forum?

Got any examples?

[sandnsea]

31. Depends on what one considers bullshit

I guess if one believes the fantasy world that the Clintons are good for Democrats, then one wouldn't notice the bullhit.

[cali]

38. Believing that the Clintons were/are good for democracy

and espousing that view is NOT bashing, it's not spewing bullshit. It's simply advocating a widely held in dem circles view.

Your posts are models of smearing. DSB's? No.

[sandnsea]

40. Democrats, distorting posts is smearing

And that's what you just did.

[cali]

49. hardly. you really, really have a heavy duty case

of cognitive dissonance.

[sandnsea]

59. No, I see quite clearly n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. You Really Have No Basis To Disrespect Me

~

[sandnsea]

56. I disrespect hypocrisy

and that's all your OP is. After months of Clinton people doing nothing but bashing, your OP is just pure bullshit. NOW you guys want to stop the bashing, yeah, right. Not Buying.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. I Haven't Bashed Any Candidate

And I resent your continuing attacks on my character...

[sandnsea]

69. Well here's a deleted post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3666468&mesg_id=3666509

and here's one that's just plain rude

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3666468&mesg_id=3666566

and here's one distorting the candidates

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3666468&mesg_id=3666603

And that's the first thread I pulled up.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. You Haven't Proved Shit

I hope everbody reads those posts... I hope to fucking God everybody reads those posts... I said I never attacked another candidate and never started negative threads about other Democrats ... If somebody disses me I will diss them back, on the net and in real life... I don't walk around with a "kick me sign" on my ass...

I usually avoid you because I know a discussion would descend into this... Well, the battle is engaged... I'm not backing down... I would literally rather get a cap in my ear then back down...

[sandnsea]

74. If you delete the shit you post

then I guess it's pretty easy to pretend you never post shit. And you do. You can quit playing Mr. Holier-than-thou. Those threads clearly prove you aren't. I disrespect hypocrisy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

76. Is The Absence Of Proof Proof?

The deleted threads are most likely where somebody dissed me and I dissed them back, harder...

If somebody attacks me verbally or physically they don't get to calibrate the response... If somebody attacks me physically I might walk away or I might send them to the hospital...


Again, I said I don't start thread attacking other Democrats...I stand by it...

[sandnsea]

79. Send them to the hospital???

Wow. You're Bad.

go back to mama little boy.

Your posts are there for anybody to see.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

98. That's Malcom X

“Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.”


-Malcom X

[sandnsea]

102. You didn't quote Malcom X, how friggin' lame n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

106. I Paraphrased Him

We can keep this up... You're becoming my personal pinata...

[sandnsea]

112. Whatever, maybe candy will fly out of your computer

In your delusional pinata game. bye.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

115. Don't Go Away Mad

Just...

[sandnsea]

117. Mad? Laughing hysterically more like n/t

[ruggerson]

119. "hysteric" being the operative word

n/t

[ruggerson]

120. I nominate this entire thread for a DUzy

I'm just not quite sure what category.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

123. Put A Towel Over The Mirror Then

~

[DemocratSinceBirth]

101. Don't Engage Me In A Game Of Snaps...You Suck At It

~

[sandnsea]

105. I don't play games n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

111. Because, Obviously, You're No Good At Them

~

[desi]

77. A word to the wise my friend...

"Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." I think it was Dilbert who coined that. Yes you are correct in your OP. Not even in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine that we would see Hillary dressed in a Nazi uniform on DEMOCRATIC underground. But indeed we did see that graphic. They can spread the hate, lies, innuendo, etc, etc etc till the cows come home. I still fully intend to contribute, work for, and most importantly, VOTE for her. What some of "these people" have done is convince me once again not to vote for Anybody BUT Clinton...take care...and ignore the ignorant.

[sandnsea]

80. If you support her after her slime tactics

then you've proven you're the idiot because you've allowed yourself to be drug down into the Clinton sewer we tried to warn you about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

99. I Never Mentioned Hillary In The OP... I Was Here Before She Was Even A Candidate

I said what I said ... Some people attacked my character... I meant what I said in my posts...

I will be courteous, respectful, and polite but if I am attacked I reserve the right to defend myself...

PEACE

[sandnsea]

104. YOUR posts are there to judge

People can decide for themselves whether the names you called people in those posts were courteous, respectful and polite or not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

110. They Were None Of Those Things

I never claimed they were...Reading isn't your forte...Maybe the fat guy with the white beard will leave "Reading Is Fundamental" under your Christmas tree...


I clearly stated if someone attacks me I will attack them back as you are now learning...


We can continue this until one of us says "uncle" or one or both of us get banned...

I just hope everybody reads this thread in its entirety... YOU chose to make it about ME...

[MNDemNY]

70. tripe

[MethuenProgressive]

52. Typical response.

:puke:

[sandnsea]

58. Yep, calling bullshit bullshit

That's what I do.

[ronnykmarshall]

133. I think you just proved his point.

[Franc_Lee]

2. Well...bashing Hillary & Bill the next best thing?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. No

Bashing one of the only three full two term Democratic presidents in the entire twentieth century is not fun at all...

Bashing the man who man who put Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who got a standing ovation at the United Nations is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who brought peace to Northern Ireland is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who almost brokered a peace treaty between Israel and Palestine is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who tried to end discrimination against gays in the armed forces is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who presided over the longest economic expansion in the history of the republic is not fun at all...

Bashing the president who brought African American and Hispanic unemployment to their lowest levels in history is not fun at all...

But I'm glad that's your definition of fun, I think...

[terrya]

7. Yeah, so did I.

I wish DU could go back to bashing Republicans again.

[patrice]

8. Too many people around paid to think what they think and say what they say. nt

[Vickers]

11. Huh?

:shrug:

[patrice]

19. You don't think the candidates' paid operatives show up on this board?

Or those who associate with them very closely?

[Bryan]

64. Has that ever been proven?

I tend to think the campaigns don't find message boards such as ours to be important enough to troll, but I could be wrong. Has DU ever had a poster whose IP address was traceable to a campaign or a company known to be used by a campaign?

Without proof of that sort, the accusation strikes me as just an infighting tactic.

[patrice]

67. Of course there's no way to establish what you say, so that makes it

indeterminent, as in 50:50, neither one of us has stated more than a probability and neither probability is stronger than the other probability.

My point about "those closely associated with them" still stands; their IP addresses would reveal nothing.

[Zueda]

83. Hillary staffers were busted sock puppeting over on Blue Hamshire blog...

How could you think they're not here?

[Vickers]

127. No.

I retired my tinfoil hat for the season.

[Armstead]

9. Sometimes, I think it's human nature to like to argue

I include my own human nature in this, BTW

In some ways. it's more stimulating to argue than to talk to people one agrees with. An Amen Chorus is more supportive, but doesn't have the stimulation.

What I most dislike, though, is when arguments get personal. I think it's quite possible to disagree and to argue without it turning into insults -- especially since we're all presumably going to be on the same side in terms of evicting the GOP.

[THUNDER HANDS]

13. if you want a Democrat to really fight, put him in a room with another Democrat

our leaders enjoy fighting with eachother more than they do Republicans.

[akwapez]

14. While I agree that the Dem bashing has gotten out of hand.....

an "enemy" is not defined by their political party. Anyone who impedes attainment of my specific goal could be viewed as my "enemy". I would prefer the term obstacle to enemy at this stage. Therefore Pelosi et al can most certainly be seen as obstacles to the progressive agenda.
:hide:

[bellasgrams]

15. Good posts Demsincebirst.

[Windy]

16. I liked it better when your candidate wasn't involving herself in dirty politics

and all her surrogates weren't coming on the board trying to defend her campaigns despicable behavior!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I Started This Campaign As A Soft Obama And Soft Edwards Supporter

I thought Hillary Clinton was too formulaic... It was the attacks on her here that pushed me into her corner and the ferocity of the attacks that strengthened my resolve...And that I swear on whatever you want me to swear on is the unvarnished truth...

In fact, you can do a search... I mostly stay out of the back and forth bullshit...

[sandnsea]

39. You've always been a DLC centrist person

I know that, even if you want to pretend otherwise. And you've defended bullshit, which is the only way you could end up in Hillary's camp. That you still can't see the truth of it, after this series of lame attacks, says it all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. DLC

I worked for Ted Kennedy in 1980...My mom caucused for him at a Volusia County Democrat straw poll ...I supported Hart in 84, Gore in 88, Kerrey and Clinton in 92, Gore in 00, and Wes Clark in 04...If that makes me DLC so be it...

[ronnykmarshall]

134. Her surrogates?

What a line of shit.

[cyclezealot]

17. the nature of winning. its a blood sport.

This is not unusual. It will pass. How else is the will of the majority ever to be known unless ideas compete.

[annie1]

37. Do you think it will pass when the nominations are over?

[cyclezealot]

95. Probably not

should the Democratic party does not represent the base of the Democratic party. If it doesn't , Ralph Nader says he will be there to rescue it. !Was not the party torn apart when Bill Clinton betrayed labor by pushing Nafta. Old wounds don't just evaporate overnight.

[Captain Hilts]

18. Yes! nt

[JohnnyLib2]

23. Nice post, DSB.

Those reminders of key issues help in the midst of all the infighting.

K & R

[dajoki]

27. Yeah, me too

K&R

[BenDavid]

33. Well it tis the silly season and the time I hope it will end is

when a candidate(hrc I support) will have a majority of delegates to become OUR nominee, but I suspect if that be the case it will hate and more hate directed at OUR nominee.

Ben David

[annie1]

36. I'm new to the site, is this a bash Hil site? Curious because...

I am a democrat who will support any number of the democrats currently running. I've noticed on other sites a lot of Obama supporters tearing into HRC. So can I assume that they will continue to bash her even if Obama does not win the nomination, thus putting a republican into the white house?

I just want to know if this site is doing the same. It's sort of frustrating to try to talk about the election and be a democrat with all the hateful spewing.

[patrice]

46. There are some very substantial differences between some of our candidates.

That said, I don't like the way people get crazy one way or the other about HC, even though she is my least favorite.

It IS important to support the candidate that best represents your values, especially during primaries.

The problem is that there are people around who intend to do other candidates harm by claiming to be supporters, and maybe even wearing a candidate's name as an avatar on this board, but then they actually are out to do that candidate, or the Democratic party, harm by destructive interactions on this board.

Welcome to DU annie1! :hi: Enjoy! :eyes:

[patrice]

60. BTW, regarding those substantial differences I just mentioned:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2475038

[Cha]

61. This is the primaries

..in the general we get behind the winner and pointing out hillary's policies isn't "bashing" her.

[annie1]

88. Cool. I'm totally down with that. : )..

If people are against her for now, that's cool. half the time i have stuff i don't like about her either. : ). but as long as it's something people can bounce back from, i'm down with that. i just wasn't sure if it was we love all dems but hil type of thing.

[Cha]

94. Yeah, in 2004..primary

war was raging around here but we all got together for Kerry in the General. :)

[JohnnyLib2]

81. Welcome to DU.

Hang in there. There are good days and bad, but the will to win in '08 seems plenty strong. :hi:

on edit: post misplaced; it was in response to Annie1

[annie1]

89. thanks. : )

[democrat2thecore]

44. I did too, but it's a PRIMARY! Here's the thing....

The Republicans are doing the same thing. This is part of the process. Is it fun? Not really as I hate the attacks when they become personal, but there are still differences between these Democratic candidates and this is the time - the primary season - to flush those out.

[robinlynne]

45. Feel free to bash Republicans. We all like it. That's why we extend it to Repuglites.

[RaleighNCDUer]

47. Say, isn't that list Hillary's platform?

Oh, maybe not. She actually wants to protect choice. BTW, how did she vote on Roberts and Alito?

ON EDIT: What a relief - she actually voted Nay on both of them. Maybe that is an issue that she WON'T compromise on.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. She Opposed Them

Are you suggesting Hillary is anti-gay , anti-immigrant , anti-universal health care, or anti-affirmative action?

[RaleighNCDUer]

66. Just an assumption from her being on the DLC Leadership Team.

GLBT: Has she repudiated Don't Ask Don't Tell?
Immigrants: She backed off DLs for New York undocumented workers pretty fast.
Universal healthcare: Don't make me laugh - a giveaway to the insurance industry is NOT universal healthcare. Let me know when she supports a single-payer health plan.
Affirmative action: I really don't know. I've never heard her mention it, one way or the other.

[cali]

85. Oh please.

Spitzer has backed off the DLs too. And Edwards hasn't supported it. And you're singling her out? hmm.

Universal health care: Her plan is not universal. You're right. And no one but Kucinich supports single payer at this time. Her proposal is not merely a giveaway to big insurance. Try reading it.

Affirmative action: She's always supported it.

GBLT. I'm not sure about DADT, but she is strong on GBLT issues. You may have noticed that she has substantial backing from the GBLT community.

[cali]

51. she opposed both.

and it's utterly ludicrous to suggest that she isn't strongly pro-abortion rights. You don't have to support her to be honest about her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. He Also Suggested She's A Racist, Xenophobic Homophobe

Only at DU could someone in the mainstream of Democratic thought be turned into Jeff Sessions...

[RaleighNCDUer]

68. And you need to learn to read.

I said that her stance on choice was the one item that was NOT in doubt. Then asked how she voted.

And that was the one item that you questioned me on.

Sheesh.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. I Can Read Fine

The assertion embodied in your statement was that she opposes everything I suggested most Democrats stand for in my original post... It is what it is...

As for your question about what she does and doesn't stand for you can do your own research...

[RaleighNCDUer]

75. Obviously, you cannot, because that comment was directed elsewhere. nt

[cali]

86. bwahaha. you need to learn to write clearly. it's really not that

hard. I read your post as snark that she really didn't support them due to your asking how she voted on Aliton and Roberts. You know what's clear? If you didn't even know that, it's clear you don't know much about her record at all. You just imbibe the anti-Clinton koolaid. I don't support her, but I don't support her on real issues, not koolaid issues.

[RaleighNCDUer]

93. For someone who doesn't support her, you fight her fight awful hard.

As I said, I know that she's strongly pro-choice (and I consider 'pro-abortion' to be a subtle RW attempt at slander, as nobody is really pro-abortion - it's always an unfortunate circumstance which nobody willingly chooses). At the same time, I would not be surprised if she did vote 'yea' on either of them, if they were clearly going to pass anyway and she owed someone a favor, or she wanted to bolster a particular constitutency. That's how it is done in the senate. After all, that's the excuse I've heard for her Iran vote from some parties.

BTW, just what issues DON'T you support her on? You keep saying that, but somehow I always miss those posts.

[cali]

96. I fight against bullshit wherever I find it. Just go to the latest bullshit

Obama drug thread and you'll find me getting it from Clinton supporters.

BTW, I'm a woman. I've had an aboution. I didn't write pro-abortion and you know it. I wrote pro-abortion rights. I don't like euphemisms too much. I am pro-abortion rights period. And yeah, in some cases I'm pro-abortion as well.

I don't support her because of her vote for the IWR. I don't support her because I don't trust her on issues relating to corporate power and influence. I've started threads to that effect. I've written hundreds of posts to that effect. I guess the people who are so busy turning her into a bogeywoman, can only see the posts I write defending her from their absurd bullshit. Do a search.

[RaleighNCDUer]

100. Thank you. And I apologise for my side-bar on 'pro-abortion' -

I simply mis-read it, and in these parts pro-abortion is such a common RW catch-phrase that everyone I know avoids even the hint of it in 'pro-abortion rights'. Besides, pro-choice is less clumsy and is more succinct and accurate, to my mind, so I have become habituated to that phrase.

I've tended to avoid the Obama drug threads, mostly because they wind up being shouting matches between Obama and Hillary supporters, and I still can't see much of a difference between them.

As for turning her into a boogeywoman, I don't need to. She does that herself.

[cali]

108. No problem. I use pro-abortion rights even knowing that some

people will misread it.

And really, she's not a boogeywoman. In fact, she's fine on a lot of issues and evidently an effective Senator. That's where I hope she stays. But she's not the demonlady many are portraying

[JohnnyLib2]

57. This is becoming a ridiculous attack on the OP.

I'm a Hillary supporter and don't like the implication that the OP has direct ties to that campaign, can't think for him/herself, is paid, or is working off some script. For cryin' out loud, it IS possible to independently come to a preference for any one candidate.....:grr:

[RaleighNCDUer]

87. Can't ANYBODY read around here?

The OP listed clearly republican positions - I snarkily inferred that they seemed, for the most part, to be Hillary's stance as well.

And you think I think he's working for Hillary, and was actually listing her positions?

Is there anyone here over 12 years old?

[JohnnyLib2]

90. ??

Lost me.
See post 78.

[lumberjack_jeff]

54. I liked being a democrat better when they Republicans deserved it more. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

55. Thank you for the great post.

It's a shame the "usuals" had to bring their act to the thread.

[Bitwit1234]

62. Damn straight and Hillary is still winning

Obama got a surge when Oprah tried to make him a rock star. And don't forget the little teeny boppers that jump and jump for Obama are the type that don't vote.

[rateyes]

65. I liked the Democratic Leadership better when they were actually

part of the opposition party, rather than capitulaters who feel like they have to go along to get along.

[Flora]

73. Fairly new poster here

I've read for about a year or so. Every now and then I see a post that I feel strongly about and add my 2 cents. But I have to feel very strongly to subject myself to the inevitable bashing for my thoughts. :shrug:

Maybe I've had the wrong idea about this site. I thought it was a place for some democrats to make others not feel worthy of the title.

All I know is that I keep my head down, doing my part of the work I know has to be done to get this country on the right track, and I don't have time justify to myself to those who don't know me.

Again, my 2 cents. :popcorn:

[JohnnyLib2]

84. Amen to your thoughts.

Sometimes it seems like only former debate team members need apply.

Meanwhile, the work goes on..... :shrug:

[JohnnyLib2]

78. I've just reread the OP carefully and

think it could have come from a supporter of any of the Democrats running.
Yes?

Too many personal agendas flowing through right now.

[depakid]

82. Well, when Dems enable and legitimize far right policies

seems to me not only are they fair game- but in many ways even more deserving of all of our disdain than Republicans.

[ozone_man]

91. It depends if the Democrats are representing progressive ideals.

Certainly you wouldn't request that we fall into line to support Lieberman, because he is/was a Democrat. I look for more than party labels to tell whether to support a candidates or to criticize them. If there was a liberal Republican like Jeffords, or a progressive like Sanders, than they may get my vote, not because they are Democrats.

When a Democrats fails to represent progressive ideals, then they lose my vote. Whether that is by voting for war or supporting corporate welfare.

Sometimes the enemy is us. And it requires a little bashing of our own who have become more like Republicans than Democrats.

[MasonJar]

92. Thank you, DemSince Birth, this is my thought precisely. We have good

candidates; let's support them one and all.

[libertariandemocrat]

97. I don't have a problem bashing Hillary

especially when there are so many great candidates, Edwards, Obama, Biden, and Richardson. I personally wished Feingold would have run.

[Kurovski]

103. I've never liked this board due to its lack of live, online cage matches.

[KoKo]

107. IS THIS...another Ad for HIllary?

:shrug:

[cali]

109. there's help for paranoia. n/t

[Kurovski]

113. And oppositional/defiance disorders too,

since it seems we're going to pursue that particular form of insult.

[ruggerson]

118. btw

did you steal my atavan again?

[Kurovski]

121. That's the BEST typo EVER!

http://www.avatan.com/news/index.html

Don't you dare change it.

Edit: OOPS! is there a drug for dyslexia?

[JohnnyLib2]

124. Wonderful!

If there are DUzies for goofs.....:rofl:

[ruggerson]

125. Evidently you did

;)

[Kurovski]

126. I am not a crook!

[ronnykmarshall]

135. yeah watch a nice movie

Like "Happy Feat"

:hide:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

114. Did I Mention Hillary?

I am really beginning to resent these ad hominem attacks...

You can not imagine how much they are pissing me the fuck off...

I'm doing my best not to respond in kind but I have already lapsed and will continue to lapse...

[Rowdyboy]

116. Some folks can't see the forest for the trees....Apparently, you can....

I much prefer trashing Republicans to Democrats, however badly the Dems deserve it (and lately they deserve a VERY hard time).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

122. Read This Thread

I can't believe so many people here hate me...Wow...

I'll be back after the Heat-Pacers game...

[PatSeg]

128. You made some excellent points and it is a shame that

some people chose to twist them.

Republicans must love watching the infighting among Democrats. Disagreement is acceptable and healthy, but this kind of pettiness is distracting and self-destructive.

With all the problems we've faced over the past seven years, I guess people get into a fight mode and don't know when and where to turn it off. Historically it is human nature, but conscious, aware people should be able to take that anger and transform it into to positive action.

I tend to believe that the provocateurs aren't really all that numerous, they are just more vocal.

[Perry Logan]

129. The Obama people, in particular, have made a spectacle of themselves.

Four quick favorites from DU:

"Hillary is an insult to my dead mother."
"Hillary is a scheming, duplicitous sociopath."
HIllary is Pro War and Pro Iran Invasion AND against The Democratic Party!"
"I'll THROW UP if Hillary gets nominated!"

("One life" my ass!)

[ronnykmarshall]

136. Another good one

"Hillary and her supporters can go to hell"

"Hillary supporters should be ashamed of themselves"

Real classy shit like that.

[Cha]

137. hillary fanz think they're

so above reproach that they can they can throw red herrings out from the shallow end ..all day and all night and no one will notice.

[Enrique]

130. now, when the Republicans attack Democrats

DU takes the Republicans' side.

[Froward69]

131. I agree

however At this time bashing or trying to point out other Dems inabilities to be president is a necessary evil.

simply put republicans need to be hunted to extinction.

[Duppers]

132. and here I thought we still are. nt

nt