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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:35 AM Original message |
| Iowa newspaper on Obama's caucus 'cheating': "The Illinois Caucus." |
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| Egnever
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
| 1. Wow not good if true |
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rurallib
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
| 4. Link here - thanks to Debi |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 11. The link leads to a scan of the handout telling out of state students how to join a caucus. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
| 45. To be fair, that link was provided by an impartial Iowan, |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
| 50. I am not an Obama supporter, I am an Iowan who understands the law |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
| 51. I corrected my post as you were composing this. |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
| 81. Thank you. n/t |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 18. rurallib, you do know that there is nothing shading with what Obama is doing |
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| Egnever
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 19. Thanks for the link |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 61. How is it not good? |
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rurallib
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
| 2. David Yepsen an effing idiot |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
| 15. There's a scan of the questionable handout above- Yepsen didn't forge it, did he? |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
| 21. But there is nothing illegal or rule breaking about the handout n/t |
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| ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
| 3. Politics of Hope? |
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| Tellurian
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
| 5. All the other candidates signed a pledge to keep the Iowa election "clean" except.. |
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| ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 6. wow! |
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| ellacott
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
| 13. There was a pledge that Dodd started |
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| Tellurian
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
| 63. Yes, it is..But who knew of Obama's desperation. Fear he couldn't win Iowa honestly.. |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
| 73. Please explain how Obama isn't winning Iowa honestly |
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| Tellurian
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
| 74. I'm talking about the thousands his campaign has recruited |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
| 76. You're talking about nonsense |
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| tammywammy
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
| 94. Do you have proof of these thousands he's recruiting? |
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| ellacott
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
| 83. Wow |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
| 87. Stop it, you're ruining the moment |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 23. You know that there is no cheating going on here, you just jump from post to post |
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Rock_Garden
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 25. Somehow I missed that one. Interesting. |
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| hedgehog
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 42. So, at the caucuses, if an out of state college student wants to caucus |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
| 65. Obama cheated? What rule/law did he break? |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
| 88. One Iowan pointed out the grammar rule (or is it punctuation?) |
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| surfermaw
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
| 7. Are you sure the paper is talking about a democrat |
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madrchsod
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
| 8. delete |
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sufrommich
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
| 9. If the Obama campaign goes through with this, |
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| ilovesunshine
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 10. But, it's okay if Obama does this, right? |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
| 12. It's not like he bused people in from out of state for the debate audience. |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 22. But if the students on those busses are attending college in Iowa |
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Renew Deal
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
| 14. MYDD: Democratic Campaigns (Hillary, Dodd) Should Not Advocate Voter Disenfranchisement |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
| 16. "If you're not from Iowa, you can come back and caucus in your college neighborhood." |
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Tom Rinaldo
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
| 20. I think it is politically foolish though |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
| 17. It's legal and within the rules. The Obama campaign is doing nothing wrong |
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| Inuca
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
| 24. Did anybody click on the link? Here is the rest |
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Beacool
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
| 26. Hmmm, I wonder how many out of state students.... |
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murbley40
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
| 27. kick |
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| Tellurian
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
| 75. double kick |
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karynnj
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
| 28. Give me a break - where did people here register when they were in college? |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
| 30. Kennebunk. Voted absentee, like the law said I was supposed to. |
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karynnj
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
| 33. What law? |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
| 35. You can have only one legal residence. That's a law. Except in Iowa? |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
| 37. A person can only vote in one state. Iowa law gives them the opportunity to vote here |
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karynnj
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
| 48. The interpretation in Indiana when I was a kid |
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| desi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
| 39. What I was thinking.. |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
| 43. Won't they still be in Iowa for the general election? |
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| desi
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
| 55. A hypothetical |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
| 57. An answer |
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| desi
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
| 70. Good try... |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
| 79. Another hypothetical |
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XemaSab
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
| 84. I registered and voted in Humboldt County |
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Mass
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
| 29. Seems to me that the Clinton supporters are getting more and more desperate. |
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| BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
| 31. Keep pushing this |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
| 32. Really counting on that "If you're not from Iowa" vote, eh? |
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Renew Deal
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 34. What is the exact quote? |
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| BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 36. He's evil |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
| 40. You know what, I'm not even an Obama supporter. |
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| BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
| 41. Thanks for making that factual point |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
| 49. debi, just because he's exploiting a loophole and recruiting 'non-Iowan' voters |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
| 53. It's not a loop-hole. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
| 64. "Why would you think that?" The law that allows "If you're not from Iowa" to vote in Iowa? |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
| 62. How can you classify an Iowa student as a "non-Iowan" and "Illinois resident" |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
| 66. The Obama Handout: "If you are not from Iowa, you can come back for the Iowa caucus..." |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
| 67. I am "not from" Illinois - I grew up in, and am from Connecticut. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
| 69. You're welcome for the answer to your question. Have you another? |
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
| 80. Deleted message |
Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 38. Any person from any state can 'support' a candidate |
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| desi
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 47. What's next? |
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karynnj
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
| 59. Well - HRC did complain that young people don't vote in high numbers. |
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| oasis
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
| 44. From "zero" previous presidential ambitions to turning the process upside down. Whew!! |
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| hedgehog
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
| 46. My kids all registered to vote at college as soon as they hit campus. |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
| 52. If you go to school in Iowa, you reside in the state for the overwhelming majority of the year |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
| 54. Welcom to DU Krb123 |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
| 58. Thanks Debi |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
| 82. You catch on fast! n/t |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
| 56. How do life long Iowans feel about thousands of out-of-staters voting in the caucus? |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
| 60. How are out-of-state students any different from adults who recently moved to Iowa? |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
| 68. "You are being silly," welcome to DU krb |
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| krb123
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
| 77. Maybe you think it is "silly" because you are too dumb to pick up on sarcasm |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
| 86. krb, one votes where one resides. |
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Sandaasu
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Mon Dec-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
| 90. How do young people/student feel about getting help and encouragement to participate in the process? |
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Adelante
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
| 71. Republican Playbook against students' voting rights |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
| 72. Wes, if a Right Wing Fundi college set up in your town, would you want them voting |
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Adelante
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
| 78. It's not a favor, it is a constitutional *right* of students to vote from school |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Dec-03-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
| 85. "No Iowans are being disenfranchised. They all get to vote, too." |
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Adelante
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Mon Dec-03-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
| 89. I am for democracy, too |
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CTLawGuy
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
| 91. yeah heaven forbid |
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Debi
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #91 |
| 92. Is it Friday the 13th or a full moon or something? |
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CTLawGuy
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #92 |
| 95. Im arguing for full participation |
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| DURHAM D
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #92 |
| 96. You seem to know more than most on this subject - |
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ClarkUSA
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
| 93. Um, Hypocritical Hillaryworld is doing the same thing. Nice of Yepsen to leave that part out. |
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