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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:34 PM
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You should support Kucinich for the fact that even Democrats want you to think he's "unelectable".
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 02:36 PM by Peake
Why are Democrats spending time and effort to keep him out of the view of the public? He's the only candidate even remotely interested in justice and a quick end to the nightmare we're currently enduring. That others are supporting the status quo, through action or inaction, worries me into not being able to vote for them. They're doing a better job of convincing me of their unworthiness to be President than any thousand Republican pundits or swift boaters ever could!

Bush wasn't elected. He shouldn't be there now, continuing to steal our tax dollars and the lives of our young, as well as the oil and the lives of Middle Easterners.

=If other candidates will not do the will of the people, whose will are they doing?=
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:38 PM
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1. Name me one issue on which he's compromised.
Because I'm sick of presidents who can't do that basic function of democratic government.
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YoungDUer Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:59 PM
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5. He passed more Amendments when Pelosi
before she became the leader in the House. He worked closely with conservative Republicans on a lot of this, fighting corporate subsidies, corruption, etc.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:34 PM
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16. Two recent issues on which he compromised after pointing out
why he felt the bills were flawed. Legal immigrant children were dropped during the welfare reform of the '90's and they most likely will not be included in any new SCHIP legislation.


Washington, Sep 25

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=75275

"Kucinich voted for the original House-passed version of the bill because it contained language to grant health coverage for legal immigrant children. However, in today’s bill, this language was omitted."


Kucinich Votes To Override SCHIP Veto

Oct, 18 2007

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=76549

"Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), released the following statement after voting to override President Bush's veto on SCHIP this afternoon:

“I voted to override the President’s veto. In the previous SCHIP vote, the Democrats left out up to 600,000 children of immigrants, so I voted against the bill. The President left out all children, so of course I voted to override,” Kucinich said.

“The bill’s failure to provide coverage for legal immigrants is wrong. All children deserve health care coverage. Health care is a right, not a privilege. The denial of a life-saving service based on an arbitrary length of citizenship is simply wrong.

“It is the responsibility of Congress to address the main difficulties that prevent legal immigrant children from gaining access to health care. This bill does exactly the opposite, which is why I voted against the bill after the Senate negotiators refused to provide health benefits to legal immigrant children. Negotiating away health care for 400,000-600,000 children as a political compromise is not acceptable..."


Kucinich: Discrimination Against Any Member Of The LGBT Community Is Un-American

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=76608


Washington, Oct 18 - Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), the only Member of Congress from the state of Ohio on the Education and Labor Committee, spoke out against the Employee Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), that was voted on in committee today. Kucinich voted against the bill in committee to object to the exclusion of the transgendered community from the legislation.

“The Declaration of Independence says:

‘We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by
their creator with certain inalienable rights that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.’

“When you listen to these words, when they said men at that time, we know today that it doesn't just mean men. We know that it doesn’t just mean white people. We know that it doesn't just mean straight people. That it means all people.


When the bill came for a full vote he compromised and voted Yes.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1057.xml


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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:35 PM
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17. Abortion
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:03 PM
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20. You could not pass up the chance, I'll look for your posts in the
other candidate threads where you list all the changes/mistakes they have made.

:hi:
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:39 PM
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2. I'm voting for Kooch in the primaries
...partly to send a message that change is neeed, not mealy-mouthed pap.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:40 PM
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3. Unfortunately, you answered your own question.
Question: Why are Democrats spending time and effort to keep him out of the view of the public?

Answer: He's the only candidate even remotely interested in justice and a quick end to the nightmare we're currently enduring.

The interests which "certain candidates" represent do not want the nightmare to end. And it sickens me to see otherwise good people believing that they will be any different than the lawless Chimp.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:56 PM
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4. "They do =not= want the nightmare to end."
Thank you. That is the only conclusion that I am able to come to!

How can people support those who want this to continue, who won't DO anything to stop it, who won't do their will as voters?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:59 PM
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6. I agree with you guys, I truly believe that DK should be our next President....
He really is the only candidate that would bring the current group of thugs to justice. I will bet $$$$ that all of the rest will let the chimp and thugs slink away from there crimes...
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YoungDUer Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:00 PM
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7. Because we are COWARDS
That's the honest truth. We have enormous freedom here to change our system but we are afraid to support someone who is fighting the power establishment of money and media. We think that's too long-shot to stand up for our own interests. It's that simple.

NOTE: This applies to people who agree with Dennis but don't support him, not people who legitimately don't want him to be President.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:03 PM
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8. No thank you.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:13 PM
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10. I'd hope to hear your reasons, if you'd care to share them?
It's just confusing when people dismiss the only one seeking to uphold the Constitution.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:23 PM
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14. I'm not going to waste my energy to spell it all out for you...
but I will say this. He's too radical for my taste. I'm slightly left of center, and he's waaayyyy to the left.

Nuff said.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:24 PM
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15. Thank you, that's fair enough.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:00 PM
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19. I'll give a reason -
He voted against Schip.
Voted against funding children's healthcare.:puke:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:04 PM
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21. Do you know why? n/t
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YoungDUer Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:14 PM
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11. Citibank/AIG Financial 2008!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:13 PM
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9. If that's the best you can do to convince this undecided, well--no.
He's in consideration, but give me a little more credit, would you?

I can't stand the "holier than thoug" attitudes from any of the candidate groupies. This one reaches a new low.
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YoungDUer Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:15 PM
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12. He's saying that people who agree with Kooch but not voting for him
Why they refuse to vote for him on weak terms of electability (as if voting for someone in a primary is a huge risk). He's not convincing people who dislike Dennis's agenda. He's asking for those of us who would want him to be President but won't vote for him to have a spine.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:18 PM
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13. I don't know how you would take my shouting about upholding the will of the people
(who voted Pelosi in on hopes of impeachment and the upholding of the Constitution as well as an end to the Iraqui invasion) as being "holier than thou".

I'm confused and am being loud on the most important subject that our nation faces. I'm willing to be loud and ask why no one else is willing to even appear interested in the Constitution, and what voters want.

We're in serious trouble. Status quo will bring only more of itself.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:58 PM
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18. Ever since I found DU in 2004 there were a few common
concerns...the integrity of our elections, the lies that lead us to war, the illegal acts of this administration and the loss of our Constitutional Rights and maybe the loss of jobs/wages and the lack of health care.

Dennis finds himself in a unique spot because he voted against the bills that created so many of the problems while many other candidates voted for the bills.

So who should I support? For me the choice is clear.


"If other candidates will not do the will of the people, whose will are they doing?"

Good question!

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:57 PM
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22. Kick...
"=If other candidates will not do the will of the people, whose will are they doing?="
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