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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:06 AM
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MSNBC's Shuster just made a bad mistake
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:08 AM by BeyondGeography
Saying Obama overreacted to something that wasn't even in print, that it was just online.

The Novak column appeared in print in Saturday's NY Post.

Sloppy.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:08 AM
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1. But NY Post is not really print, it's fish wrap
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:09 AM
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2. Why isn't he overreacting to such flagrantly poor journalism?
:evilgrin:
rocknation
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:32 AM
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3. Yeah right..skew Shuster. Obama is the one who over-reacted
Between the blind item and the clip of Obama yelling at the old

lady in Iowa, this is not a good way for him to start the week
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:38 AM
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4. Novak was just on Fox saying that the Clinton campaign is lying
Not a great way for your girl to start the week either.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:43 AM
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5. Being called a liar by Novak is
going to hurt Clinton? Which democratic primary voters are going to listen to him? You Obama fans are getting desperate.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:46 AM
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7. It'll hurt about as much as raising your voice in response to some one who thinks
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:47 AM by BeyondGeography
giving undocumented workers drivers licenses is an endorsement of al Qaeda.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:58 PM
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25. I have no idea what you're talking about (n/t)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:51 AM
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9. Novak AND Fox. Wow ...Now there is a credible team
:rofl:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 AM
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10. Yah...about as credible as Wolfson and Penn
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:56 AM by BeyondGeography
:rofl:

and, for the record, he said your girl's campaign was shopping the "we have scandalous info" slime to undecided high-ranking Democrats.

Naughty, naughty.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:44 AM
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11. Novak ain't nuthin' but shit and neither is anyone who pretends to believe him.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:04 AM
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12. Wow
I just got insulted by Jim Sagle and his hairdo avatar.

How shall I carry on?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:16 AM
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18. You effectively insulted yourself by gving Novak any credence.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 AM
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15. FLASH! Novak calls Novak a LIAR! lol
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:45 AM
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6. Do you happen to have a link to the clip or article
on the yelling episode? Not having much luck finding anything.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:49 AM
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8. They showed it twice on Morning Joe. I'm sure it will get more play
They tend to show things over and over all day
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:06 AM
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13. Obama yelled at an old lady?
I haven't heard about that one, what happened?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:12 AM
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14. He was answering questions in Iowa and a granny type asked
him about keeping us safe or some generic question. Obama

was loud and obnoxious to her. Shuster called him "shrill" lol

They have showed the clip several times on MSNBC. I'm sure if you

are able to tune in any hour of the day, it will be repeated
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 AM
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17. I haven't seen it yet,
but I'll keep watching to see if it lives up to Schuster's description.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:17 AM
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19. Here, wyldwolf found the clip:
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:17 AM by Lirwin2
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:40 AM
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21. Good ol wyld. He's good. I tried and got nowhere
MSNBC had a much better clip, but at least you know what Shuster was talking about
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:41 AM
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22. Yeah, he was loud, but he wasn't screaming.
I don't think Schuster had the right take on it.
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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:21 AM
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20. I saw it--or a little bit of it, anyway. Didn't strike me as anything
extraordinary. Looked to me like he was having to raise his voice because he didn't have a microphone and the person he was responding to was some distance away. But I only looked up in time to see the last few seconds of the clip.

Probably just another media-hyped (non)controversy, like much of the crap that passes for political discussion on this once halfway decent board. :crazy:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:17 PM
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23. I agree. People who think that is "yelling" have never had to make themselves heard
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:18 PM by yellowcanine
in a big room with a lousy sound system and lousy acoustics.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:42 PM
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26. He had a microphone . No need to yell
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:54 PM
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27. And he wasn't yelling.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:58 PM
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28. was too
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 AM
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16. I agree.
I don't think he was screaming. I'll give Schuster a pass since I like him. :)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:19 PM
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24. How is this suddenly Obama's fault? IGNORE NOVAK.
Every Democratic candidate needs to put Novak on permanent ignore. Let the talking heads consult their own belly buttons if they so choose.
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