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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:05 AM
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Obama aide wants to know when reporters will investigate Bill Clinton's postpresidential sex life.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/

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UPDATE: Peter Daou, Clinton's Internet director, has addressed the suckering of Obama by Novak, if that's what it is. But given the track record it's not wrong to wonder. Seriously, who's actually swiftboating whom? It's not like Mr. Obama and his team haven't traveled in pushing this stuff themselves. I covered Obama's "D-Punjab" smear of Clinton back at June that was also covered in the New York Times, as well as the smear on Bill Clinton that Politico covered in "Oppo Bounty." Then there was his "oops" apology for it. There was also Obama's team trying to dig up dirt at the Clinton library. Two more from Daou are below:

Obama communications director compiled list of opposition research stories on Hillary that he was pitching to reporters. "Lizza writes while visiting the office of Obama communications chief Robert Gibbs at the national headquarters on Michigan Avenue. 'I couldn't help but notice some of what he had scrawled on a whiteboard hanging on his wall: HC Bio › NY Post HC Travel (AP?) Tax Returns (Balz?) Darfur investments (HF) JE 527 HC is, of course, Hillary Clinton... These were obviously notes about stories the campaign was pushing or anticipating...'"

The Obama camp took credit for the attack on Hillary regarding Norman Hsu. "In August, Obama's team scored a significant hit by helping to place a story in several newspapers revealing that Norman Hsu, a major Clinton donor, had skipped town after having pleaded no contest to a charge of grand theft 15 years earlier and still faced an outstanding warrant... (Hsu had also contributed to Obama.)"

But let's not forget Andrew Sullivan, who in the print copy of his Atlantic Monthly love letter to Obama offers this beauty: At a campaign event in Iowa, one of Obama's aides plopped down next to me. He wanted to know when reporters would begin to look into Bill Clinton's postpresidential sex life. The part in bold was in red in the print edition. Funny how it didn't make it in the online posting.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:08 AM
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1. How very very sad and pathetic.
Obama's "politics of hope" sure isn't making me feel very hopefull...
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:45 AM
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11. And all of it unsubstantiated.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 01:45 AM by calteacherguy
It's sad Cliton supporters would resort to these kinds of lies.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:02 AM
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15. Meanwhile you're off spouting Robert Novak lies
Pot, meet kettle.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:42 AM
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20. I have done no such thing. Again, you spew baseless accusations. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:16 PM
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33. Here's The Original Article From The Chicago Sun Times!
The story, titled “Teacher and Apprentice” by associate editor Marc Ambinder, describes how Obama campaign staffers were “frustrated” because the press was not covering Clinton “in the way they expected it would.”

“…And at a campaign event in Iowa, one of Obama’s aides plopped down next to me and spoke even more bluntly. He wanted to know when reporters would begin to look into Bill Clinton’s postpresidential sex life,” Ambinder writes.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/641088,sweet110708A.article
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:39 AM
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29. How low will he stoop? This is beneath dignity.
How very very sad.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:09 AM
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2. How old is this crap?
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:10 AM
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3. This is not good.
Stooping low enough to
use the Clenis. tsk tsk
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:12 AM
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4. "Politics of Hope"...MY ASS!
Obama sinks lower by the minute.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:14 AM
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5. That would be the fastest way to get Hillary Clinton ten more points above Obama.
People sent a clear message during the Bill Clinton impeachment that they don't want someone's personal sex life to become a political issue by raising his approval rating to almost 70%.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:16 AM
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6. Yeah I was one of those people...but I refuse to go through that again


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:25 AM
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7. OMG...I thought this was one of those snarky jokes. I can't believe he'd go there.
I would hope that his campaign aide was acting out of turn and without authorization.

Because that's not good, if that was an authorized little bomblet.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:42 AM
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10. Unfortunately, it'll reflect on Obama if this turns out to be true, even if it's
totally the work of over zealous aides.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:58 AM
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23. It depends on what he does. If he disavows FIRMLY and fires the aide, it;s a one day story.
If he waffles and says "Well, I don't agree, personally, with that strategy, but he has the right to say what he might want" then that's not so good.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:28 AM
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28. You mean, of course, if the aide exists
Since we don't know who it is or if they work for Obama the 'Obama aide' is another one of those 'some people'.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:26 AM
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8. I'm not a Clinton supporter
However, this is really bs, stick to issues.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:36 AM
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9. it`s taylor marsh,
she worships the ground hillary walks on and hates obama. she lies just like anyone else to protect their meal ticket.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:46 AM
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12. Taylor is very fair
She's goes after Hillary when the facts take her there. She's just not fooled by the anti-Hillary hype.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:47 AM
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13. What part of the post I quoted is a lie?
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 01:56 AM by Karmadillo
nt

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:49 AM
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14. Will the aide be fired?
Or will he be the keynote speaker at the next Obama rally?
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:23 AM
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16. Obama has secured his place,,,a footnote in US politics n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:27 AM
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17. It's starting to get ugly!
I'm disappointed that idiot Novak has succeeded in causing friction among Democrats.

I think Obama's camp has handled this situation in an unfortunate manner.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:46 AM
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21. 'I think Obama's camp has handled this situation in an unfortunate manner.'
Quelle surprise.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:38 AM
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18. This is pretty low on the Marsh's and the OP's part
1) Hsu and everyone associated with him gave something like $20,000 to Obama and $850,000 to Clinton. A magnitude of difference.

2) Andrew Sullivan is a pundit not an Obama aide. You really need to change the title.

This is quickly shaping into a nasty race - this could help the second tier as the top three destroy each other.

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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:41 AM
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19. Read the excerpt and you'll see the title is correct.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 03:05 AM by Karmadillo
nt

Edit: Took out unnecessary insult. It's late. My apologies.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:28 PM
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30. Sorry - I misread it as Sullivan saying that that should be done
I think Obama should fire that aide - if he can get the identity. From another thread, that argued that Clark himself did not push the intern story, but Lahane, a top Clark official did is parallel to this. Obama, should note the even years later Clark was blamed - I doubt this unnamed aide was as high as Lahane, but it has the same backfire possibility. (In some ways it is less as they are saying investigate - not that something is really there.)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:46 AM
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22. you seriously need to reread, you completely messed up
on your second comment. Andrew Sullivan was the one who REPORTED about the aid, the article never claims Andrew Sullivan WAS the aid. :crazy:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:57 AM
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24. Bye-bye, Barack.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:13 AM
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25. Either the front-runners are losing control of their campaign staff...
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 07:16 AM by rucky
or the media is off the chain.

Probably a bit of both.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:22 AM
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26. You just read my thoughts. I cannot believe Obama, HRC or any of the
candidates are fully aware of what their staffs are up to. Obama is not my #1 but I cannot believe he would condone this. I think it might be time for a staff meeting in all camps to weed out the troublemakers. It's causing discension and not good for any of them or us. Just stick to the facts and the dirty politiking to the Repugs.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:25 AM
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27. "one of Obama's aides"
Ohhh good reporting.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:31 PM
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31. And they will probably check with Novak!
:rofl:!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:07 PM
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32. who needs the neo-cons when we have democrats?
This season is getting ugly.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:37 PM
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34. What I'd like to ask Ms. Marsh
How much has been donated to Hillary's campaign from people who Bill pardoned ?

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:40 PM
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36. What I'd like to ask John Edwards,
is why he won't release any information about all the bundled he's received in this campaign.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:08 PM
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39. As if that excuses the behavior of the Clintons.
No, what it means is both Hillary Clinton and John Edwards have some shady dealings and neither one will be rewarded with my primary vote here in Arizona, where it matters.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:34 PM
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40. I'm not out to explain the behavior of the Clintons
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 07:36 PM by seasonedblue
I'm asking an honest question similar to one that an Edwards supporters asks in a thread about Obama. He's the only one in this race who won't reveal anything about his bundlers. Zero, nada, nothing.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:38 PM
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35. What a pantload.
I'll believe it when "one of Obama's aides" gets a name.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:47 PM
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37. You people never learn.
How can you enjoy letting the media lead you around by the nose 24/7. And then complain when it's all Britney all the time.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:04 PM
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38. Obama will be toast if he starts this shit.
If he thinks the strategy of harping on the Clinton's sex life will win him votes from dems, he's in fantasy land. The only people this kind of sludge will appeal to is Neanderthal wingnuts on the right who aren't going to vote for him anyway. Talk about taking a page out of the republican playbook. This guy needs to grow up and focus on the serious issues facing us right now.


:eyes:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 AM
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41. Taylor Marsh is a top cheerleader and stenographer for Hillaryworld.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:41 AM by ClarkUSA
Peter Daou is Hillaryworld internet guru and in charge of emailing daily talking points.

So what's the NAME of this mysterious staffer??? Ambinder should cough it up, especially since
the Obama campaign says this is more Hillaryworld garbage.


*crickets*
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TAZller Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:50 AM
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42. I want to know...
why HRC gets "Agents" and O only gets "Aides" to do their supposed dirty works....Hmmm.... one sounds just a wee bit more nefariously fictional....
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