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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:09 AM Original message |
My problem with Hillary beyond electability |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. You have a point. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Considering what we've been getting... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Stand up to them ? - She was with them |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. isn't this stunning |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Especially stunning as they |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
84. Hillary VOTED for this catastrophe, she must and will have to answer for it. |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. I never looked at that way. Good point! |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Much like Bill Clinton |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Nope- |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. You make a very good point.We cannot afford a close vote or an unpopular president. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. With Barack Obama, America wins. Let's not forget it. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. there are many indicators that with Obama there would be a landslide. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No black man with "Hussein" as a middle name will win in a landslide. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. That would be a Repug knuckledragger excuse to not vote for Obama |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Don't give them too much credit. |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. leave the metro area and all dems are not alike |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. strangely enough, polls show Obama as the #3 choice among solid republicans |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I doubt that anyone that votes against Obama for the reasons you stated is going to vote for Hillary |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Thank you! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I Like Obama... |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. the problem is that those dems in red districts won't have coattails to ride. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. "Many of them say"? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
8. 8 more years |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
80. Excellent point n/t |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. I support Hillary, and your argument |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. No matter which Democrat gets elected, you will not hear about anything good they accomplish. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
18. self delete. n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Don't Light Any Matches Near Your Strawmen...You Might Immolate Yourself.... |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. WTF are you talking about? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Since You Deleted It As Evident By Your Editing Others Will Never Know |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yeah the delete button is there |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. At The End Of The Day We Will All Be On The Same Side |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
21. No reuniting! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. What's The Maximum Amount Of Folks You Can Get On One Side Of An Issue? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I pray you are wrong |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. don't believe the Hillary hatred myth |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
85. No, her negatives cannot go down. She is who she is. Everyone already has their opinion |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
28. Name me ONE candidate in either Party who would UNITE |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. John Edwards. (nt) |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And Your Observation Is Based On What |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I don't think so. The Pubs will continuously slam him for being |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
34. That is a situation all of them will face |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Golly, it's such a shame that we "hate one another so", isn't it... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Ok, yeah, I am confused. Does that mean that the SERVICEMEN will be voting with rifles from rooftops |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I find your lack of faith in the integrity and sanity of our servicemen repulsive. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So, when the barracades go up which side will you be on? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. That's your problem |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. Damn! He was just getting fun to be with. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. is it obvious day? Well at least you aren't even trying to hide it. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. That really doesn't sound like something I would expect to hear from a Dem. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Then the General shouldn't be writing op ed's and out there being used to sell |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. oh really? How about Admiral Fallon, is he "Dissing" the troops? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I think the point is that Petraeus is a person, not a god. And is therefore fallible. |
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The_Progressive (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. The Military is not Political |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Try again. EVERYTHING is political. If it has people in it, it's political. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. and so does everybody else and it doesn't hurt the troops and by continuing to |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. No, actually, you don't. They are not inseparable. If you have the ability to comprehend |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Fuck you and your talking points |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. What a crock of Koolaid. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. In all seriousness and with respect... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. A couple of things... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Jim Webb , Jack Reed, and Wes Clark Oppose This War |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Who Called Petraeus A Liar? |
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The_Progressive (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Have you ever been to Iraq? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I Have Never Ate Dirt But I Presume It Doesn't Taste Good |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. If he was an "honest man", you might have a point. He isn't; you don't. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I Don't Question Petraeus' Character...I Question His Judgement And Sentience... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
40. You appear to assume that someone else will win in a landslide or at least |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. Two words come to mind thinking about a Hillary presidency: Squandered Opportunity |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. In Your Opinion |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. Yep, it's heartbreaking |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
65. This Thread Has Taken An Ominous And Dark Turn |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Well, bear in mind that this disgraceful lunacy... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. There's No Government In Iraq To Defend... |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
82. Hillary Clinton CANNOT WIN the general election in 2008. Many Dems already realize this. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
86. "Be able to do much"...? She won't WANT to do much... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
87. "Slightest crack"? |
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