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Peeance Freeance Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:25 PM
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Which candidate is the most Presidential?
I think it's Kerry. In the panel after the debate, so did most of the pundits there. I would go as far as to say Kerry is the only one that looks "presidential." It's probably the added weight of national security credentials this election, which he has and the others don't.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:26 PM
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1. wow
what a great issue to campaign on.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:27 PM
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3. I don't think Kerry plans to campaign on the issue
but it would be silly to pretend nobody can discuss it or that nobody considers it.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:29 PM
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5. since Kerry can't seem to decide
where he stands on so many issues - he might as well. :)
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:31 PM
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9. Or that people have voted based on it for decades.
I guess we should all start looking for an unpresidential-looking, unelectable candidate since electability and presidential-like behavior is supposedly meaningless.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:00 AM
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23. LOL! You nailed it!!!
Bush the younger would be f'ing nowhere without his supposed presidential demeanor and mantle. Too bad for him the package's been opened and everyone now knows it's empty.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:07 AM
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25. The scary thing is...
I live in Nebraska, heart of the red states. I cannot count the number of people who told me they were voting for Bush because of his demeanor and he's "like your neighbor".

Had people actually looked at the issues and looked at the stupid things that come out of his mouth, Gore wins in a landslide.
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Peeance Freeance Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:32 PM
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11. Precisely. Presidentiality will be the FIRST consideration
for most voters.
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:29 PM
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6. I agree issues should be talked about
a TON more than who looks "presidential."

That said,:)

1. Kerry
2. Clark
3. Edwards
4. Gephardt
5. Dean
6. Kucinich
7. Moseley-Braun
8. Lieberman
9. Sharpton
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:27 PM
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2. and i thought having guts and a spine ina difficult time made you pres
material
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:28 PM
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4. is the assumption that Kerry
has no spine and no guts?

I think that's incorrect.
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cavebat2000 Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:31 PM
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8. I feel as though he doesn't
and I vote.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:31 PM
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7. No
it's the suit
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:31 PM
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10. That may be true, but Edwards is prettier.
:eyes:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:33 PM
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12. From
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 10:34 PM by mountainvue
the very early debates, I have always thougth Kerry to be the most presidential and qualified to handle the job.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:34 PM
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13. What does "presidential" mean?
As silly as the British monarchy system is, it does have one clear advantage: the bulk of partiotic symbolism, the veneer and the national imagery, is with the Queen -- she is expected to look "presidential". The people who actually make decisions are simply public servants. Nobody in Britain asks "are you actually implying that the Prime Minister of Great Britain lied???", and that very argument worked here for years before W went a little too far. Even now, were it not for the quasi-royalistic connotation of Amerian presidency, many more people would realize what kind of characters we have at the helm of the government.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:34 PM
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14. Using that criterion, no woman and no black person would ever be
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 10:34 PM by spooky3
elected, since none of them look like any prior President.

What in the h*** does it mean to "look Presidential"?
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Peeance Freeance Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:36 PM
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16. Feinstein looks Presidential. Most of the past presidents don't.
Looking Presidential is more than just what they've looked like in the past. Most of the past presidents don't look presidential but it didn't matter as much then.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:35 PM
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15. Edwards
nobody commands their presence as he does.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:47 PM
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17. Well...
...at least he's tall.
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fromadam Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:55 PM
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18. In terms of life experience? gravitas? Wes Clark
er... was that one of the choices?
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:27 PM
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19. no, only candidates
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:41 PM
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20. CLARK is by far the most presidential. n/t
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:19 AM
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21. Kucinich, and YES I'm serious.
"Presidential", cripes what a stupid adjective for what someone looks like!

What exactly IS "Presidential" looking? Kind of relative, don't you think?

I think Dennis Kucinich looks Presidential because he looks like a regular guy. The same regular guy I'd bump into at the farmer's market and stop to chit-chat or comiserate with about the economy or the weather, or how I have tomato bugs in my garden so I had to buy some this month.

THAT'S the guy I want making decisions that affect my life and future, because he knows what my life and future mean and how at risk they are right now. Don't bother me with looks when my freaking LIFE is on the line!
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vision Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:53 AM
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22. Here is what Presidents look like
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/prespSubjects01.html

Click on a president and you will know if somebody is Presidential from the chinless John Adams, the wild hair of James Buchanan, the portly Grover Cleveland, beetle-eyed Nixon, etc. Very few are the elusive "Presidential."

By today's standards few would look good as Presidents those would be IMO:

Clinton
JFK
Franklin Pierce
FDR
Ronnie Reagan

Can you imagine if Teddy Roosevelt tried to run today? He was short, wore glasses and had a squeaky/high voice! He would be laughed off the stage. Lets not even mention "ugly" Lincoln, "wooden-teeth" Washington, or "four-eyes" Truman.

"Gravitas" means spit to me. How and where they stand on the issues is what makes one Presidential to me.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:02 AM
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24. Kucinich, obviously
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 AM by snoochie
The rest of them wouldn't know how to lead unless you paid them to act like they did.

And as for the media pundits saying Kerry was presidential? I don't even want to say it... it seems too obvious... I think it's too late for this party.
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