Novak: Hillary Moving to the Right on Healthcare?

[TeamJordan23]

HILLARY MOVING RIGHT?

Sen. Hillary Clinton recently conferred with conservative health care analyst Regina Herzlinger, who advocates universal health insurance provided by the private sector and who has sharply criticized the 1994 "Hillarycare" as Mrs. Clinton's "bid for a centrally controlled system."

Herzlinger, a Harvard Business School professor, was one of several health care experts heard by Clinton during a two-hour "listening" conference call. "I was thrilled that she was sympathetic and interested in what I said," Herzlinger told me.

Although Clinton currently is sponsoring a massive expansion of SCHIP (State Children's Health Insurance Program), several conservatives speculate that she as president might take the same path to the right on health care that President Clinton did on public welfare.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21354


While I don't like Novak one bit, he is very credible source for political news stories. And he doesn't make any conclusion on what Hillary's healthcare will be like; and neither do I. Nor should you!

That is why I am waiting for her to release her plan to the public.

[Vincardog]

1. Novak thanks you for the plug

[TeamJordan23]

4. Well I told you that I don't like Novak at all, but I do read his weekly political newsletter

And he is right about a lot of stuff.

Particularly stuff he has said about Obama campaign over the time - positive and negative. I remember he was one of the first person to write that Obama would officially enter the race and was getting his staff in tact when the rest of the media was still 50-50 on it. And he does report on Democrat news (usually Inside the Beltway news) frequently on his weekly news stories.

But as with all politcal news, take it with a grain of salt.

[illinoisprogressive]

2. I have been feeling like Hillary is not going to do healthcare.

Not just because of getting tons of money from the lobbies but, I think she is too gun shy and has been avoiding the issue. I really think health care will not be something she will address as other candidates have.

[papau]

5. She has promised a plan - I suspect she will pick up the specialized hospital concept that's Novak's

right wing professor's idea.

I doubt she will advocate the Switzerland solution which is that Professor's other idea (mandated insurance policy purchase with means tested help with the premiums but also with good, better, and best policies for those have enough money to chose the level of coverage they want).

But I could be wrong - the fact the insurance industry has said they endorse the Switzerland approach mat convince her it is doable in the US, and she may go for doable over saving money via a changed system.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Novak is, of course, an unimpeachable source of information. (nt)

[Bitwit1234]

6. Boy .....guess what when Novak talks about anybody but Hillary

he is a liar and a piece of crap...but let him bash Hillary and everything he says is fact. Tsk tsk tsk.

[emilyg]

8. Don't like him. Don't trust him.

[PATRICK]

7. I would like to offer some

just help to Hillary on this one by speculating that the general Clinton strategy(husband and wife) is to get to one's adversaries and make them work with you and even for you. Bill meeting with Poppy on fund-raising for disasters, Hillary with Murdoch are a lot more high profile and troubling than this one whose utilitarian methodology can be most easily defended by their modus operandi in the past. Now, one may slap one's head at both the tactic and the results and certain naive assumptions that are more than the pretense of diplomacy and compromise, but this is quite different from moving to the right. this is about getting the agenda passed with the bipartisan effort and throttled opposition necessary to get the job done and not who will present the purest most doomed version of general health care.

In other words, the villain Novak is offering a poisoned opinion that digs at the gut criticism one has(and the sorry results of dealing with the enemy). He should not be the one posing the question, framing it or leading off the discussion.

More astutely, no paranoia necessary at this point, Hillary is choosing certain ways to clear the whole path to being elected and accomplishing her agenda. That solidity is part and parcel the same thing since all the charisma resides in accomplishment, not the best speeches and purest promises. It has to sound the way it does almost like a trap of fate or destiny and her chances rise and fall on whether this consistent strategy is chosen by the electorate. Now when it comes down to choice between other candidates, that is where my defense ends. Suffice it to say, were we offered less, or more with no hope of vote backing, hers would be a sound, if perilous and insufficient, move forward and a real possibility of accomplishment which in itself moves us forward so long as the masses don't sit back again too satisfied to fight off regression or stagnation. Would that the times offered us "time" for such stalwart progress even if the daily casualties of our terrible foreign policy and health care system could be tolerated.

These attacks on Hillary purportedly by the left(when they come encouraged by a GOP stooge and WH confidante) are meant to discourage us from seeing her true intent of being the turtle that takes the race and an interpretative wisdom whose intent and work is fairly clear. She can win. She can move things forward. After that we can disagree, but most people prefer the clarity of hyperbole which only fairly resides in the vast gulf between GOP corporate despots and dem public servants. Criticizing by just degree and not making superhumans out of our personal choice would help preserve the peace but passion leads us to embrace semi-human crap like Novak to abandon the reason that binds all Dems and is the only hope for many many lives and generations to come.

In that spirit I welcome garbage like Novak when he stimulates this tie that binds, not the worm of spite and suspicion, and gives one more confidence in the general Dem slate, as it is. when we stop and take stock at the machine we are up against. And our constant resolve to criticize, move the agenda forward past the opposition and the wary attitudes of the candidates themselves and the enforced ignorance of the general public- no matter what fellow traveler is our nominee(as opposed to the minions of tyranny and greed who intentions for sure are 100% pure BS).

It is not Novak who makes OUR president mandated to move right by his soiled opinion, but OUR votes and labors clearly intended to push for more than even our candidates are prepared to publicly offer.

[maximusveritas]

9. Novak is not credible for anything

His evidence appears to be "speculation" on the part of "several conservatives" as well as the fact that a conservative expert was included in her conference call. This reminds me of the people trying to attack Obama just because he was getting advice from Powell. There's nothing wrong with talking to people who you disagree with. In fact, one of the biggest faults of the Bush administration is that they haven't done enough of that. My guess is that Hillary's health care proposal won't be all that different from the propsals of Edwards and Obama.

[creeksneakers2]

10. The key words are:

"several conservatives speculate" That means what people who hate her say she's going to do, backed up by no evidence. I speculate that Mitt Romney will outlaw motherhood. How about that?

Hillary listened to her critics. That's all I see and I'm glad to see she does that.

Human Events is a Moonie rag. They are out to get Hillary and don't care if what they say is true or not. Human Events is not a reliable source of information about anything.

[The River]

11. This Hillary quote says it all

"no possible governmental solution that does not include the insurance industry."

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. Oh, she's in trouble now.

The problem with Hillary is that, unlike Bill, she really doesn't have any experience knowing what it's like to be an ordinary American. It seems like she's always had a leg up. Yes, she's smart. But she just seems like she's more comfortable with rich people, than she is with ordinary hard-working Americans. So, I think Hillary may still think that the trickle down effect works, when we all know that it only helps the top, not the middle, not the bottom tiers of our society.