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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:34 PM
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Rep. Obey says the Dems haven't decided on the Iraq supplimental
Okay, so we're all mad because we heard that the Dems have caved...but have they? This just went up on Daily Kos:

Iraq Deal or No Deal?

by mcjoan
Tue May 22, 2007 at 01:13:50 PM EDT
The AP has played games on this one before, seemingly with the help of someone or someones in the party on the Hill, but according to The New York Times and Rep. Obey, the discussions about what to do on the Iraq supplemental are ongoing and no decisions have been made.
After an evening meeting of top House Democrats, the party canceled a session at which they were to present the elements of a new war spending proposal to the rank and file in anticipation of a vote this week.

"There is no deal," said Representative David R. Obey, the Wisconsin Democrat who is the chairman of the Appropriations Committee and is one of the lead negotiators over the war money.


The leadership is working under a "self-imposed deadline" of this week to resolve the issue, one of those "artificial" timetables. While the Memorial Day recess would likely be more pleasant for them if this were behind them, meeting this deadline should be less of a priority than crafting a responsible, strong response to Bush.

At any rate, no plan has been settled on yet. Watch this space for more information as the day unfolds.


There's more in the comments. Was this whole thing a trial balloon?




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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:40 PM
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1. All they have to do is show the American people that they have some balls.

NO DEAL, President Bush. Withdraw the troops. Take it or leave it. Period.


If they do that they will win in '08. If they don't and capitulate then they risk losing it all.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:41 PM
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2. People on dK are saying that it was a preeptive alarm by the Prog Caucus.
The story this morning may have been meant to get us all screaming.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:42 PM
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3. All we have to do is call them and/or fax them and kick butt . . .
as politely as possible.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:48 PM
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4. Indeed, Sir: Pressure Should Be Applied
It is time to hold firm, and force the issue on the enemy....

"I will fight it out on this line if it takes all summer long."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:53 PM
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6. FWIW, I'm a female.
All summer - you bet! We're only just beginning to find more NEW anti-War supporters!

Some of us are talking about going to the party Conventions as spectators.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:03 PM
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8. My Apologies, Ma'am
The quote, by the way, is from Gen. Grant, at Vicksburg I believe: it seemed particularly apt here.

Our majority in Congress should send to the White House only Bills on this subject the administration has proclaimed it will veto, but that contain elements most of the people whole-heartedly support. Sooner or later, the enemy must crack, and accept some conditions on the funding. After all, it is the administration that must have the funds, and the Congress has no particular need to supply them, at least not on any terms but its own....

"If you only hold on long enpough, the other fellow will give way."
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:31 PM
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9. Can I double that "Indeed, sir"? And throw in an "Indeed, ma'am" too?
Edited on Tue May-22-07 01:45 PM by calimary
If they think we don't care, THEY WON'T, EITHER!!!!!!!!!

You HAVE to push them.

If for no other reason, to COUNTERACT all the pushing being done against us from the Dark Side. And I'm sure that kind of pressure is considerable. WE are all we've got. So we have to make sure WE count.

Call.

Your.

Reps.



Call.

Somebody.

Else's

Reps.


Even.

If.

They're.

republi-CON.


Call.

Them.

ANYWAY!!!
TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers located in my sig line for your convenience.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:50 PM
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5. K&R Stay on them! Let's not give up! Call 1-800-828-0498
Edited on Tue May-22-07 12:52 PM by tblue
Main U.S. Capitol Switchboard number: 202-224-3121 or 202-225-3121

Toll-free: 1-800-828-0498, 1-800-459-1887, 1-800-614-2803, 1-866-340-9281, 1-866-220-0044

You can reach every member of Congress from those numbers.


APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE MEMBERS:

Democrats

David R. Obey, Wisconsin, Chair

John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania

Norman D. Dicks, Washington

Alan B. Mollohan, West Virginia

Marcy Kaptur, Ohio

Peter J. Visclosky, Indiana

Nita M. Lowey, New York

Jos E. Serrano, New York

Rosa L. DeLauro, Connecticut

James P. Moran, Virginia

John W. Olver, Massachusetts

Ed Pastor, Arizona

David E. Price, North Carolina

Chet Edwards, Texas

Robert E. "Bud" Cramer, Jr., Alabama

Patrick J. Kennedy, Rhode Island

Maurice D. Hinchey, New York

Lucille Roybal-Allard, California

Sam Farr, California

Jesse L. Jackson, Jr., Illinois

Carolyn C. Kilpatrick, Michigan

Allen Boyd, Florida

Chaka Fattah, Pennsylvania

Steven R. Rothman, New Jersey

Sanford Bishop, Georgia

Marion Berry, Arkansas

Barbara Lee, California

Tom Udall, New Mexico

Adam Schiff, California

Michael Honda, California

Betty McCollum, Minnesota

Steve Israel, New York

Tim Ryan, Ohio

C.A "Dutch" Ruppersberger, Maryland

Ben Chandler, Kentucky

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida

Ciro Rodriguez, Texas




Republicans

Jerry Lewis, California, Ranking Member

C.W. Bill Young, Florida

Ralph Regula, Ohio

Harold Rogers, Kentucky

Frank R. Wolf, Virginia

James T. Walsh, New York

David L. Hobson, Ohio

Joe Knollenberg, Michigan

Jack Kingston, Georgia

Rodney P. Frelinghuysen, New Jersey

Roger F. Wicker, Mississippi

Todd Tiahrt, Kansas

Zach Wamp, Tennessee

Tom Latham, Iowa

Robert B.Aderholt, Alabama

Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri

Kay Granger, Texas

John E. Peterson, Pennsylvania

Virgil H. Goode, Jr., Virginia

John T. Doolittle, California

Ray LaHood, Illinois

Dave Weldon, Florida

Michael K. Simpson, Idaho

John Abney Culberson, Texas

Mark Steven Kirk, Illinois

Ander Crenshaw, Florida

Dennis R. Rehberg, Montana

John Carter, Texas

Rodney Alexander, Louisiana

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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:59 PM
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7. The Democrats
should send a war spending proposal when bush* agrees to send the twins to Iraq.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:51 PM
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10. A Trial Balloon ...
to see if most Americans are chickenshits like the Democrats they voted for?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:38 PM
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11. K&R
:dem:
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:25 PM
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12. Freaking Obey has to go, too. Dump him in 2008!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:51 PM
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13. dumb idea. (nt)
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