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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:47 AM
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Democrats Propose National Sick Leave Bill


Joined by 22 other members of the Democratic caucus, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) has introduced legislation that will provide some degree of paid sick leave for all Americans and force employers to allow workers to take a minimal amount of time off to care for themselves or a sick child.

"As members of Congress, we don't lose our pay or risk our jobs if we stay home because of illness. But millions of our fellow citizens are not so fortunate," said Kennedy, in introducing the legislation late last week. "Every parent knows what it's like to care for a sick child, and every child knows the importance of a parent taking care of them when they are ill. Yet, every day, countless Americans find their paychecks or even their jobs at risk when illness strikes."

The Healthy Families Act (S.910) will provide all American workers who work an average of at least 20 hours per week or 1,000 hours per year, up to seven paid sick days that can be used for "an absence resulting from a physical or mental illness, injury, or medical condition of the employee."

The legislation, which is being introduced in the House of Representatives by Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (D-CT), also permits the use of the sick days for caring for a child, parent, spouse and -- get ready for anti-gay howling from the Religious Right on this one -- "any other individual related by blood or affinity whose close association with the employee is the equivalent of a family relationship."



"This debate is really about what we value in this nation. If we want strong families and a strong economy, if we care about the health, well-being and economic security of our families, we will waste no time in passing the Healthy Families Act," said Debra Ness, President of the National Partnership for Women & Families. "Guaranteeing access to paid sick days is the next step in the effort to put our desperately outdated workplaces back in sync with the realities of families. Paid sick days are the next minimum labor standard the nation needs."

The Kennedy bill, which applies to companies with 15 or more employees, is a logical follow-up to the minimum wage increase that was passed by the Democratic Congress in their first two months of controlling the agenda on Capitol Hill.

And despite the fact that almost half of all U.S. workers have no paid sick leave -- with 76 percent of the lowest-income workers having no ability to stay home sick without losing income -- Senate Republicans are already signaling that they're willing to fight this at least as strongly as they boycotted raising the minimum wage.

"To extend this type of leave requirement to businesses, as is contemplated by the Healthy Families Act, would be little more than an unfunded mandate on small businesses throughout the country," said Mike Enzi (R-WY), the ranking Republican on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, in hearings last month. "In addition, this legislation represents only direct labor cost, and does not account for a myriad of other indirect costs."

This proves once again, as we have seen so often, that the GOP considers the checkbooks of business first, second and third before giving even a shred of thought to the plight of some working Americans who must work while ill or forfeit pay or maybe even lose their jobs.

And Kennedy pointed out on the Senate floor last week that, with gender roles still being what they are in our society, the primary responsibility for family caretaking often falls on women, making this bill even more important for them.

"This lack of protection is especially difficult for working women with children. Women have moved into the workforce in record numbers, but they continue to have primary responsibility for their children's health," said Kennedy. "Nearly 80 percent of mothers say they are solely responsible for their children's medical care. Yet they can't take a day off to care for a sick child."

"If we truly care about families, we have to change those facts. Americans want to be responsible employees and responsible parents. We need workplace laws that allow workers the time needed to care for themselves or family members when they are sick without losing pay or risking their jobs."

The Massachusetts Senator also emphasized the public-health aspects of his legislation, especially with the large number of workers in the food-service industry who do not have access to paid sick leave and often work while ill to avoid loss of family income.

"Every day, we hear reports of stomach illnesses breaking out in restaurants or on cruise ships. We learn of flu outbreaks leading to hospitalization of the elderly. Such illnesses are contagious, but their spread can be minimized if sick people stay at home," said Kennedy.

And Ness, of the National Partnership for Women & Families, pointed out that, like the minimum wage legislation finally passed after a decade stuck at $5.15 per hour, this bill is a referendum on our national values.

"Chances are each of us will get sick this year, but not all of us will be able to take time off from work to get better," she said. "Millions of workers with no paid sick days are forced each year to work when they are sick, or send sick children to school or leave them home alone. That’s not compassionate, it’s not family-friendly, and it’s not acceptable.”

You can read more from Bob at BobGeiger.com.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:50 AM
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1. Nice in theory, but it gives some employers more incentive to offshore
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:51 AM by valerief
instead of hiring parents.

BTW, I love Ted Kennedy.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:54 AM
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3. Parents are the only ones who get sick?
:shrug:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:56 AM
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5. Right! I was focusing on the "parents caring for sick children" sick time.
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:59 AM by valerief
You're right. Everyone gets sick. Doh! But mothers tend to get sick themselves and take time off for sick kids, too (as they should, along with fathers, if they're around).
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:03 PM
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7. No worries!
Just wanted to point out that this bill would apply to anyone who works for an employer with 15 or more employees. They would be guaranteed at least 7 days of paid sick time. It certainly would help a lot of people, but the offshoring aspect as you mentioned should definitely be examined too.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:05 PM
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9. I wish Congress would give disincentives to offshoring along with
social bills.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:12 PM
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13. There are some bills in the pipeline for that
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:1:./temp/~bdcbxw::|/bss/d110query.html|

Read it and let me know what you think.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:16 PM
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14. file not found. nt
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:25 PM
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16. Damn, worked on my machine
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 12:27 PM by TayTay
S.96


Look it up the old-fashioned way here: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110bills.html
by the number (S.96.IS) on the right hand side. The numbers on the left don't correlate to the bill at hand. That's Senate logic, not mine, btw.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:22 PM
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15. Everything pro-American worker is an incentive to do that.
Which is why offshoring must be dealt with and dealt with seperately.
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jellybeancurse Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:50 AM
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2. About time
:applause:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:54 AM
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4. The so called "family values" types will vehemently oppose this
Just as they do every other piece of legislation that would actually help parents and kids.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:59 AM
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6. While we're at it, how about some more paid vacation days.
I personally get 15 PTO days a year (that's combined vacation/sick days.) On a previous job I had (shitty call center McJob), I only got 8 PTO days (PTO seems to be popular among employers these days.) Many places give no paid sick or vacation days.

Go to Europe, and you'll routinely see employers giving their workers 4-6 weeks of paid vacation a year, along with 1-2 weeks of sick pay. Why can't we have that over here? Is it any wonder that so many American workers are suffering from burnout?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:04 PM
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8. Another problem
Another problem that arrises from this is that people without paid sick time will often go to work sick, infecting others in the workplace.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:07 PM
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11. I've certainly done that.
That's not just a side effect of giving no sick time, it's a side effect of combining sick and vacation time. I'll be damned if I'm going to burn a potential vacation day by staying home sick if I can get out of bed and move at all, and when that happens, I make a point out of sneezing, coughing and hacking all over my boss.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:06 PM
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10. Europe is civilized. We're patriotic and religious. nt
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:10 PM
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12. How many employers, who legally employ people for 20 hours . . .
Or more a week -- and by legally I mean all of the required reporting and accounting -- *Don't* offer some sort of sick leave? Casual labor brokers probably (not entirely legal by the definition I'm using), independent tradepeople who occasionally take on helpers and so on. Who else?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:30 PM
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17. "Nearly half of U.S. workers don't get any paid sick leave..."
..." -- for low- wage earners, it's 75 percent. Unlike 139 other nations, the United States doesn't guarantee paid sick leave. Let the pneumonias and hernias fall where they may."

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050403/ai_n13507993
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:49 PM
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18. The author doesn't cite sources, but . . .
for the sake of argument, I'll assume they're correct.

And he's quite right about PTO systems. They suck big-time.

My company has been using such a system for about 15 years, and it's a straightforward way of preventing employees from taking time off. At the same time, they post little notices about "etiquette while sick," which includes the advice to stay home when you're ill to avoid infecting the rest of the valuable herd. Also, it bugged the bean counters that if you offer 10 sick days, you can be pretty sure that most people will be sick exactly 10 days that year (barring a crisis in the employee's family that makes it more), while if you lump sick time in with vacation time, people will only use it in carefully scheduled increments.

PTO also lets them pretend to be generous, saying "see, you get X days off a year -- almost like Europeans!" Of course, that's nonsense.

but it's a heck of a lot better than no sick time at all -- which is the point of this whole discussion. Apparently most people aren't getting any -- and that's a huge social problem.

Kudos to TK for bringing it up.

And, folks worried about national competitiveness if such initiatives are implemented? -- try fixing the screwed up delivery of health care in this country and you'd be amazed how your costs of doing business go down.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:15 PM
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19. Interesting points.
Also, I think you can have some confidence in the 1/2 of workers, etc. stat.--it's pretty easy to find cites to sources.

Using Yahoo.com and putting in "average sick leave american" yields, for example:

http://markschmitt.typepad.com/decembrist/2004/08/paid_sick_leave.html

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/181527_sicktime12.html

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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:31 PM
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20. Hell, *I* will be your source.

The majority of my friends and family get no paid sick leave. Salaried professionals and gov't workers get paid sick leave. But none of my friends in construction, retail or factories get any paid time off: vacation, sick or other.

Thanks to the Family Medical Leave Act they are now allowed a few weeks of unpaid leave each year when they can prove illness. Otherwise, they get "occurences" which means they're allowed so many days (8 is the number I hear a lot) of unpaid leave per year.


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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:23 PM
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21. I've been fired for being sick or injured...
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 06:25 PM by Solon
and, in most places I worked, 3 was the number allowed in sick days per year(supposedly). I was in a bad car accident and was out of work for 3 days, they fired me without even TELLING me, I had to show up, and they then told me I was fired, this was Wal*Mart, by the way. I actually YELLED and cussed at the manager, because I TOLD them what happened before I even took off work, and they hired me back on. I was pissed, I think they realized that they couldn't fire someone for something like that. I had a doctor's note and everything, I thought everything was fine, and I had to be put under observation and shit by the doctors, and then Wal*Mart fires me for that shit? Motherfuckers.
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