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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:19 PM
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Kucinich: Marijuana Decriminalization
http://kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php

With the enactment of the Volstead Act in 1919, America embarked on a social experiment known as Prohibition. Prohibitionists rejected the idea that people could be trusted to drink in moderation, arguing that alcohol use inevitably led to moral corruption and undesirable behavior. Accepting these premises led Congress to conclude that a federal ban on the production and sale of alcohol would go a long way toward reducing crime and addressing a variety of other social problems. Within a decade, however, Americans discovered that the criminally enforced prohibition of alcohol produced harmful side effects. The rise of black markets empowered organized crime to an unprecedented degree. In some of America's largest cities, local governments had been heavily corrupted by the influence of organized crime. The black market provided minors with easy access to bootlegged alcohol, which was frequently of poor quality and unsafe to drink. Faced with the disastrous consequences of Prohibition, Congress decided in 1933 to repeal the Volstead Act. Since that time, the government has implemented the much more successful policy of focusing law enforcement efforts on irresponsible alcohol users who endanger the rights of others.

Unfortunately, current drug policy fails to take into account the lessons of Prohibition. The law regards all users as abusers, and the result has been the creation of an unnecessary class of lawbreakers. According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, more than 734,000 individuals were arrested on marijuana charges in 2000. This number far exceeds the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Eighty-eight percent of those arrested were charged with possession only. Convicted marijuana offenders are denied federal financial student aid, welfare, and food stamps, and may be removed from public housing. In many cases, those convicted are automatically stripped of their driving privileges, even if the offense is not driving related. In several states, marijuana offenders may receive maximum sentences of life in prison. The cost to the taxpayer of enforcing marijuana prohibition is staggering -- over $10 billion annually.

The harsh nature of punishments for marijuana offenses is even more disturbing if one considers the racial bias of the war on drugs. According to data collected by the National Household Survey, on an annual basis the overall difference between drug use by blacks and whites is quite narrow. However, a recent national study found that African Americans are arrested for marijuana offenses at higher rates than whites in 90% of 700 U.S. counties investigated. In 64% of these counties, the African American arrest rate for marijuana violations was more than twice the arrest rate for whites. Questions of racial bias affect the integrity of investigations, arrests, and prosecutorial discretion. If we truly aspire to the ideal of "Justice for All," then these unjust racial disparities are unacceptable outcomes for the American justice system.

The rationale for continuing this draconian policy of marijuana prohibition is unclear. Statistical evidence shows that marijuana use follows a pattern very similar to that of alcohol. Most marijuana users do so responsibly, in a safe, recreational context. These people lead normal, productive lives -- pursuing careers, raising families, and participating in civic life. In addition, marijuana has proven benefits in the treatment of numerous diseases, such as providing a valuable means of pain management for terminally ill patients. In either of these contexts, there is no rational justification for criminally enforced prohibitions. These unnecessary arrests and incarcerations serve only to crowd prisons, backlog the judicial system, and distract law enforcement officials from pursuing terrorists and other violent criminals.

New Mexico's 2001 state-commissioned Drug Policy Advisory Group determined that marijuana decriminalization "will result in greater availability of resources to respond to more serious crimes without any increased risks to public safety." This finding is backed by the successful implementation of such policies in twelve states. The state governments of Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, and Oregon approved these measures after the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended that Congress adopt a national policy of marijuana decriminalization. A recent CNN/Time magazine poll indicates overwhelming public support for this approach, with 72% of Americans favoring fines as a maximum penalty for minor marijuana offenses, and 80% approving of marijuana used for medical purposes.

As a nation, we must work to implement a drug policy that removes responsible recreational users and medical users of marijuana from the criminal justice system, in order to redirect resources toward the following goals:

Enforce penalties for those who provide marijuana to minors.
Enforce penalties for those who endanger the rights of others through irresponsible use, such as driving under the influence.
Develop drug treatment programs focused on rehabilitation, rather than incarceration.
Support the efforts of state governments in developing innovative approaches to drug policy.
Improve drug education by emphasizing science over scare tactics.
Implement a Department of Justice program that would review the records of, and consider for sentence reduction or release, inmates convicted for nonviolent marijuana offenses.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:23 PM
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1. K&R n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:25 PM
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2. Dennis! nt.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:26 PM
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3. That should lock up the coveted hacky sack vote!
:)
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:27 PM
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4. If we could only harness the power?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:30 PM
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5. Make it retroactive
... and it would release hundreds of thousands from jail serving unbelievably unfair sentences.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:21 PM
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23. which is one of its listed goals
Kucinich. If only we could be so lucky.
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:33 PM
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6. Excellent policy proposal!
I hope that Rep. Kucinich keeps talking this up until the idea moves from the fringe toward the mainstream. Right now, it's a perfectly sensible proposal that Dem's like Clinton(s) won't publicly touch (alas, Bill could have done so much more in his 8 years...) with a 10' pole. But just like medical mj, Federal decriminalization can catch on, if enough courageous voices articulate the proposal.

Kudos and a dank K & R to Dennis Kucinich!


:kick:

-app
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:59 PM
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32. Not on the fringe at all. It's only labeled as fringe by the M$M, and too
many people just accept it as fact.

Over 1/5th, 11 States or 22% of the country already have passed laws legalizing medical marijuana and every poll shows that a majority of Americans think it should be legal.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:06 PM
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7. Fucking Right.
I'm tempted to send this to my Sociology of Deviant Behavior class just to make the point absolutely clear...although, you'd still probably get the oh, but if you legalize marijuana the crackhead methsmoking dirty violent class of offenders will run free! God forbid you look at legalizing substances beyond puny marijuana...not like it would reduce OD's or anything good like that.

:smoke:
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:08 PM
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8. Fantastic to read....
Such a well-written, succinct, logical response to what is really *not* the crisis that this country is making it into. I would vote for decriminalization in a heartbeat, with perhaps zero-tolerance on the job for people operating heavy equipment on the job, driving busses, etc.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:23 PM
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9. We came close to doing this in the 70's
and freaking ORRIN HATCH had a hissy fit and stopped it.

His sorry ass is still seated, so he could continue to stymie our efforts, unless he resigns over something like filegate. (I'm not holding my breath. Not for that reason, anyway.)
:smoke:
But Kucinich is putting out reasonable proposals. Maybe it will have an effect on him and/or public opinion.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:19 PM
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41. He wants to blow up your computer and arrest you for copying files, too.
The man is just a terminally ill punishist fetishist.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:26 PM
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10. Rational
Imagine that.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:22 PM
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11. so thats why Willie supports him......
he's got my vote as well :)
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:55 PM
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12. But he's not electable.
:sarcasm:

Sometimes I think people take pleasure in voting against their own best interests.

Kucinich would make an amazing president on both foreign and domestic fronts. Of course, for him to get any chance to prove his mettle as president he'll have to get rid of DRE's. (Not that he hasn't been working at it.)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:14 AM
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13. Caucus for him anyway
The more Kucinich delegates in Denver, the more that sensible agendas like this can advance.
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:54 AM
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16. exactly (n/t)
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josewelder Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:48 AM
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14. Well Done
Nice to see such a clear proposal, presented in a well developed argument. Unfortunately I think something so correct and logical will never be taken seriously by those in Govt. Besides imagine all the money the corrupt Gvt officials will miss out on when they can no longer squeeze those in the pot trade.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:00 AM
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15. Agree with him
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:01 AM
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17. great policy statement

and his wife is hot .. vote dennis!

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:03 AM
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18. Now they have to emphasize the wasted tax money that is used to
pay for jail time and justice costs vs. the tax money we could be collecting if it is made legal. By the way I am not a smoker, just someone with common sense.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:23 AM
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19. That's not even mentioning the other benefits
Legalising or decriminalising cannabis means that we can finally start using hemp for all it's uses. Just to name a few, hemp can be turned into paper (ever see those Bibles with the really thin paper? That's hemp); clothes of better quality and harder wearing than cotton; even a useful emergency foodstuff (gruel is made from cannabis seed). Although people tend to see the arguement for cannabis legalisation in terms of stoners versus the "silent majority", the fact is that, as always, the people most opposed to legalisation are those with most to lose.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:10 AM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM
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21. One good thing about decriminalization
is that it would free up a lot of prison space. The US prison system is bursting at the seams and is becoming more inhumane every minute. California surely has a prison overpopulation problem. My home state of Idaho regularly sends its prisoners to other states for housing at an extreme cost. That money could be used for drug treatment/education. The stats about how many men in ten that are locked up is horrible, especially for black men. Calling Cannabis the "gateway drug" is about the worst thing Policy makers can come up with. Mothers' milk is a gate way drug if it comes to that. Education is the way to go on this issue as is mentioned above. Don't smoke and drive for at least the first 20 or 30 minutes, don't get all smoked up in the back seat and expect to say no to your teen-aged boyfriend, have plenty of Twinkies around for later...you know. Seriously, sex, drugs and alcohol should come with warning labels about addiction and responsibility. Then the Government should get off our backs.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:20 PM
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22. Three cheers for Dennis.
:toast:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:27 PM
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24. Anything illegal will always be dangerous
because dangerous criminals will try to control it and make a profit. And dangerous criminals have no qualms pushing their wares onto young kids. That's why it's easier for a kid to get drugs than alcohol. A kid needs to find an adult to buy them alcohol or cigarettes. A kid doesn't have to even look for a drug dealer; the drug dealers will find the kids. And many drug dealers are kids.

All of this happens only because it's profitable. Legalize, tax, and regulate it and it is no longer profitable for dangerous criminals. Then law enforcement resources can be better used for more dangerous crimes.

I would also decriminalize (but NOT legalize) independent prostitution for the same reasons. Get the pimps, underage girls, and slavery out of it by decriminalizing it. It's already decriminalized in Rhode Island, which is a wonderful state where their women have freedom and independence. And it's legalized, taxed, and regulated in Nevada, where the brothels are abusive hell-holes where the women sometimes have to "escape" barefoot through the desert because they are locked into strict contracts and have their shoes and belongings locked up. It's her body, it's her choice, women's rights, kumbaya.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:45 PM
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27. Obviously pot isn't totally harmless.
Personally, I can say with confidence I haven't tried it. I've never done any drug actually. But comparing it to the effects of cigarettes on your lungs, and the altering effects compared to alcohol....and it's unclear to me why it isn't decriminalized!!

And I agree about the prostitution thing, but I would legalize it. People think I'm crazy when I bring up the notion, but it'll happen no matter if you legalize it or not. If the government regulated it, it would be a lot more safe. You could require HIV/AIDS testing, STD testing, and make sure the girls are safe. Right now it's very deadly being a prostitude, and unfortunately some girls do it still!! I feel for them, I really do.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:06 PM
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33. Yes, it is totally harmless. In over 5000 years of recorded human history
not one death caused by the consumption of marijuana. It has been used by virtually every society and culture on the planet. The greatest danger that pot poses is to the paper, petroleum, plastics, pharmaceutical, and chemical industries, and of course it may well result in a negative impact on the amerikan brand of capitalism.

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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:49 PM
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39. With enemies like that...
With enemies like the paper, petroleum, plastics, pharmaceutical, and chemical industries, legal pot's going to need some powerful friends.
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Learn2Swim Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:28 PM
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25. I like it..
I like it.. I like it.. :thumbsup:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:37 PM
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26. Dennis Kucinich makes a lot of sense,
I believe the marijuana laws on the books are more for political control than for protecting the American People.

Thanks for the thread Flabbergasted

Kicked and recommended
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:49 PM
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28. The only good one!
Hes the only real person that cares about me and you, hes not greedy and has no strings attached, but hey let me take my clothes of because Obmam and Hillary (who haven't done shit and don't give a fuck about me or you) staged a civil rights kind of key to the city type moment for the whole show of it!

Way to go and hats off to the Clintons..Love those telecom Bills BILL!!!!
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:39 PM
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29. kick and recommend
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:02 PM
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30. It will never happen unless the pugs are driven into a hole
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 02:56 PM by ooglymoogly
It is the biggest cash cow the pugs have ever seen, and the benefits for them are enormous. The war on drugs is basically the government waging war on its own people and particularly blacks and Hispanics and was a practice run for the dictatorship that is even as we speak, locking up every aspect of our lives.

The draconian punishments for possession are not something that just happened overnight. The pugs have been planning a takeover of the government since even before Reagan with the assassination of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King, but needed someone like Reagan, Bennett and Meese with their astonishing use of the dangerous chemical paraquat and just about every other crime against humanity to put the war into high gear.

Now the first step has been achieved. The government now knows it can subdue the people, can storm private residences jack booting down doors without any kind of warrant. With 2 million in prison, mostly Blacks and Hispanics and even poison those who do not succumb if they should get unruly (as in the heinous use of paraquat) a treason that is committed on this country on a vast scale for something as simple as Mary, which is far less harmful than alcohol.

If we the people do not wake up this country is finished. Imo Kucinich has no chance of winning the presidency though is just the person we need to bring integrity back into government and I would sure vote for him. I think we should push for him as a running mate for Gore who will enter the race on a white horse just in the nick of time to save the day and then everyone can live happily ever after.

k&r
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:12 PM
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34. Kucinich as Veep for Gore? I could live with that.
In the meantime, it's still very early, Gore hasn't declared, and Dennis hasn't lost, so I'll keep working for Dennis and his ideas which are our ideas.
:kick: & R

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:40 PM
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31. Never have partaken a weed, but have a progressive peripheral
neuropathy which cannabis has been proven to relieve the severe pain associated with the more extreme cases. My wish is for everyone who does not support/who would block medical use of marijuana for relieving pain to rot and burn in hell for eternity.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:24 PM
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35. Save small farms, inhale
Allow only small family farms to participate in the growing of cannibus, otherwise the big corps will just rip us off.

The Farms sell it to the gov who distributes it thru liquor stores of pharmacys.

Citizens must have a clearance to buy and consume


It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, won't you be my neighbor?
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:26 PM
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36. Another primary vote for Dennis here.
Thank you for posting this.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:36 PM
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37. r&r
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:07 PM
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38. God I wish this would really happen!!!! n/t
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:59 AM
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40. kick
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