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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:07 PM
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Obama within 5% of Hillary; Edwards a distant third.
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 08:15 PM by Clarkie1
2008 Democratic Presidential Primary
Clinton 28% Obama 23% Edwards 13%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Democratic%20Primaries/DemocraticPresidentialPrimary.htm

Of course it's all a poor predictor at this point, but it's still fun to watch. I do believe it is unlikely Edwards will ever poll above Obama, however.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:10 PM
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1. These thing change so much, and we're too far out.
Edwards could make a comeback, Obama could surge, or Hillary could pull away from the pack. Hell, one of these second tier candidates could make a name for themselves and in a year lead the pack. We just don't know. It's a good indicator of things right now, but things will and should change!!
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:11 PM
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2. Gallup/USA Today poll out today has Hillary pulling 19 points ahead
The fat lady is beginning to sing before the race even starts.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:14 PM
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3. That's a huge dicrepancy. Somebody must be fudging the numbers. nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:37 PM
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4. The "PTB" went after Edwards this week...they are lying in wait for Obama
and that's the way it works. I wonder why Obama get's better press than Edwards, though...

Maybe just to pump him WAY UP...so he can FALL...WAY DOWN? That's the way the MS Corporate Media do things. :-(
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:51 PM
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6. Obama got great press this week
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 08:54 PM by pnwmom
because he gave a great announcement speech.

Edwards didn't do anything this week that could compete with that.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:53 PM
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7. self delete. just for you pnwmom ;)
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 08:57 PM by Kerry2008
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:53 PM
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8. omigod.
oops.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:56 PM
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12. Understandable mistake, Obama and Osama one letter apart.
CNN does it too!!

:rofl:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:39 PM
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17. Yeah, and Fox, too. Thanks a whole lot for reminding me.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:55 PM
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11. Quick, change your post, too.
No need to repeat that horrible name!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:41 PM
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18. Umm. . . but you're still kind of giving me away there.
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:11 PM by pnwmom
Oh well. Thanks for spotting my error in time for me to fix it.

:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:54 PM
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9. Wha? Did you do a typo? n/t
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:55 PM
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10. And the spell-checker fails me once again.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:05 PM
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31. Yup, this bump should have been expected. (nt)
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:43 PM
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5. and Edwards
leads or is tied in Iowa.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:00 PM
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14. Is it true he's spent more time there than any other candidate?
If so, even numbers there are not terribly impressive.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:18 PM
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16. its true
that he kept his organization in place. Hardly any media attention and yet he's ahead of the other frontrunners. If he solved world hunger himself, you wouldn't find it impressive.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:07 AM
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21. LOL. I think there are millions of people in America who are more ready to be president
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 12:12 AM by Clarkie1
and would make a better one than Edwards.

I believe my judgment is based on a sound and reasonable evaluation of his merits. He's a trial lawyer and a good one, but that's it.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:17 AM
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27. he'd be a great president
as would several of our Democratic candidates.

I think you are one of those people who see the trial lawyer thing as a negative. It isn't.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:00 PM
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29. A few reasons why Obama is more prepared for the job.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 08:08 PM by Clarkie1
He's done community organizing...real in the trenches community organizing.

He has a degree in constitutional law from Harvard....that constitution is important!

He's a better writer

He's a better orator

He's not in it so much for himself...Edwards whole life seems dedicated to being a Presidential wannabe

He has more integrity (yes, I hold Edwards accountable for IWR)

He understands the world better...he's lived outside the U.S.

He doesn't strike me a a slick-speaking political wannabe, he strikes me as a leader.


There are millions of people in the U.S.A., in my opinion, who would be a greater President than Edwards. There are far fewer who would be better than Obama or Richardson. I doubt there are any who would be better than Clark. Obama's biggest negative is a lack of experience, but intelligence, vision, and integrity can make up for some of that.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:36 PM
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32. the first part of this post is nice
it talks about why you like Obama. No need to knock Edwards. Promote your candidate. No need for negative this early.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:07 PM
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19. Actually they're very unimpressive considering Edwards
has basically lived in Iowa since 2002.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:59 PM
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13. I wish it were true, but Rasmussen is a FAR outlier
from the other polls on the Democratic primaries. Always showing Obama doing much better than the other polls.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:01 PM
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15. Historically Rasmussen has been the most accurate polling organization. nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:48 PM
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20. Edwards is in third? But I heard that Lieberman was in a three-way tie for third place
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:48 PM by Hippo_Tron
:evilgrin:
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:10 AM
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22. Doesn't say much
Wasn't LIEberman leading by a healthy margin in February 2003?
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Doondoo Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:29 AM
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23. long, long way to go
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:33 AM
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24. watch this space
the numbers will vacillate -
and then all bets are off when Gore and/or Clark throw their hat(s) in the ring
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:01 AM
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25. Obama had a terrific week--Edwards a lousy one--too early to read anything into this
Obama gave a great announcement speech and then to top it off had the great good fortune to be attacked by Australian Prime Minister, John Howard. He shot back immediately and scored a hit. It doesn't get any better than that.

Edwards was mired in this controversy over those two bloggers which, whatever the facts of the case, did not look good.

Clinton of course got tied up in knots trying to explain why her IWR vote was a mistake without actually calling it a mistake.

Great week for Obama--not great for Edwards and Clinton.

We'll see lots of ups and downs from all concerned before this is over.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:07 AM
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26. Don't sell Edwards short - he's like the tortoise to the hare
Even when he's not getting a lot of national buzz, he's usually on the ground plowing away voter by voter by voter. He did that in Iowa last time around - while Dean was getting all of the national attention, Edwards was quietly wooing voters at the grassroots level and ended up getting the major newspaper endorsement the week before the primary and beating Dean through sheer hard work and good organization.

Don't write him off. Just because we're not seeing him every night on cable doesn't mean he's not gaining traction. He's very good at biding his time and flying under the radar until it's time to strike.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:32 AM
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28. Will be interesting to see if a trend develops...
This is probably a bump from his announcement...Gallup has it at 19...
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:02 PM
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30. Seems Hillary's lead is slowly deteriorating...interesting trend.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 08:03 PM by Clarkie1
Hope it continues.

The fact that it would be historically unprecedented for the candidate in the "lead" this far out to ultimately win the nomination gives me hope.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:11 AM
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34. One poll is not a trend my friend...
I guess the Gallup poll showing her up 19 slipped under your radar eh?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:39 PM
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33. O-ba-ma
O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma... little by little, the chant will take over the nation... :)
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