The 2008 ticket the makes the most sense...

[wyldwolf]

... in MY opinion, speaking only for myself, the 2008 ticket that makes the most sense...

This duo must roar out the West, where Democrats have found new success, or the South, where Democrats are in need of electoral respect. Or both. The ticket must be long on governing, diplomatic, and domestic and foreign policy experience. Combined, these Democrats must have the respect of the Democratic left and the Democratic center. They must be able to carry a big portion of swing voters and pick off a few Republican voters, too.

Does this ticket exist? A better question - would the Democratic party have the balls to pick them? I believe the answer is yes.

At the top of the ticket, I present to you New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson - a man whose resume is so impressive one might expect him to be a no-brainer, yet he is seldom spoken of in presidential discussions. Recently he announced the formation of a Presidential campaign exploratory committee, with the clear intention of seeking the Democratic nomination for President in 2008. Salem-News has a run down on what is perhaps the most impressive resume of any presidential contender in 2008:

Born November 15th, 1947 in Pasadena, California to an American father and Mexican mother, Governor Richardson grew up in Mexico City… He has dedicated his life to public service, as a United States Congressman, Ambassador to the United Nations, Secretary of Energy, and now as Governor of New Mexico.

This past November, Richardson won re-election to his second term as Governor of New Mexico with a resounding 69% of the vote, the largest margin of victory in state history.

He was supported by Democrats, Republicans and Independents, winning in both urban and rural counties.

New Mexicans overwhelmingly endorsed Governor Richardson’s aggressive efforts to improve education, cut taxes, build a high-wage economy, expand health care access, invest in renewable energy and make New Mexico safer.

Bill Richardson’s fiscally responsible governing style has allowed New Mexico to tackle important priorities, while maintaining a balanced budget and the highest reserves in state history.

He cut $230 million in bureaucratic waste, invested in new opportunities for New Mexico’s children and returned more than $1 billion dollars in taxes to working families.

His innovative policies have turned New Mexico’s economy around, with 84,000 new jobs, rising personal income and a growing high tech sector that includes manufacturing, aviation, and renewable energy.

As Secretary of Energy to President Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson implemented tough efficiency standards to save energy.

And as Governor, he has made New Mexico the Clean Energy State by requiring utility companies to produce energy through renewable resources and reduce carbon emissions.

Before becoming Governor, Bill Richardson served in Congress for 15 years and helped President Clinton pass the economic plan that created millions of jobs and led America to its first balanced budget in 30 years.

Appointed by President Clinton as the Ambassador to the United Nations, Bill Richardson worked with world leaders to build alliances and help prevent the development of nuclear weapons in North Korea.

Bill Richardson has been nominated four times for the Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating the release of hostages, American servicemen and political prisoners in North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba.

Governor Richardson recently negotiated a 60-day cease fire in war-torn Darfur following direct talks with rebel leaders and the President of Sudan.

As Chairman of the Democratic Governor’s Association, Governor Richardson raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates and helped elect the first Democratic majority of governors since 1994.

Governor Richardson also served as Chair of the Western Governors Association, Border Governor’s Conference and the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

Bill Richardson has been married to his high school sweetheart, Barbara, for 33 years. Richardson received a BA from Tufts in 1970 and a MA from Tuft’s Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.

Impressive, yes? But how about the VP slot? Let’s go with Retired Four-Star General and Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark. A veteran of the Viet Nam war, Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000. He had a distinguished career in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations over the course of his career along with several honorary knighthoods and a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Clark was valedictorian of his class at West Point, was awarded a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford University where he earned a Masters degree in Economics, and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a military Masters degree in military science. (source: Wikipedia)

While it is certainly too early in the process to endorse a candidate, and it remains to be seen whether Richardson could win in the primaries, I’d wager he would do better than anyone else in the general provided his campaign staff does a good job in making his qualifications known. And the addition of Clark to the ticket makes it that much stronger. Long on experience and regionally strong, a Richardson-Clark ticket just makes sense.

[Apollo11]

1. Richardson did a good job at the DNC meeting

Along with Clark and Obama, I thought Richardson came across well.

He seemed very relaxed. Not over-confident. Not too pushy.

I am impressed by his qualifications and relevant experience.

There's no doubt he can play a cabinet role in the next Administration.

Perhaps he would be a fine running mate for Al Gore! ;)


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[Deep13]

3. Sounds good to me.

I might consider Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius for the bottom half.

[wyldwolf]

4. By all indications, Al Gore is not running.

However, I believe a Gore administration would disappoint many "progressives."

Let's just say he was elected and ended the war. Now you have Al Gore who is as centrist as ever on economic issues, domestic policy, and other Foreign policy issues.

Six months after he ended the war, I would wager a pay check the left would be damning him for this and that.

Of course, the "this and that" would be Clinton-like governance - something I'd back 100%.

[against all enemies]

23. Clinton/Richardson -

Black vote
Democratic vote
Hispanic vote
Women's vote

are all possible.

Of course the NRA-Racist vote would be tough to capture.

[John Q. Citizen]

40. Gore backs single payer health care. That's not at all centrist, but it is smart,

affordable and compassionate.

And it's something Clinton I didn't have the courage to back nor does Clinton II.

[Ninja Jordan]

2. Edwards-Richardson

[Deep13]

5. Dukakis-Bentsen

I personally think Richardson is the stronger half of that pair.

[Ninja Jordan]

9. Edwards isn't Dukakis

[Deep13]

10. That can be read one of two ways.

:-)

[Breeze54]

28. Now that's a ticket I could, maybe, get behind... it's still way to early.

[Wickerman]

6. Ill have to swallow hard to accept his pro-death penalty stance

other than that, in my book, he could be a winner. Wouldn't mind seeing him as part of some eventual Dem ticket. Not sure about him at the top. Gore-Richardson, Clark-Richardson?

[wyldwolf]

7. In the tickets you propose, Gore is stronger than Richardson, Richardson stronger than Clark

...but by all accounts as of this morning, Gore is not in it.

[Apollo11]

8. Gore is keeping his options open

There is no hurry for Gore to enter the race for 2008. He is doing a great job raising public awareness about the climate crisis (he spoke to 10 000 people in Boise last month!). He will testify at a US Congressional Hearing in Washington on March 21st. Hopefully he might even get on stage at the Oscar ceremony on Feb 25th!

Gore is also busy working on his next book "The Assault on Reason" - to be published in May. The theme of this book - why we need better decision-making in government - is very timely (whether he runs or not).

Depending on how things pan out, and the reaction to his book, Gore can consider his situation over the summer and announce his decision (or if you prefer - "change his mind") sometime in the fall.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton did not start his campaign until October 1991. But Al Gore already has nationwide respect and name recognition that other wannabees can only wish for!

And by the way - Gore is younger than Hillary, Clark, McCain and Guiliani! :)

Unless and until Gore endorses another candidate, we have to assume that he is keeping his options open. So it is too soon for those of us who prefer Gore to switch our allegiance.

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[wyldwolf]

11. wasn't the latest news that Gore is not running?

[Apollo11]

13. Wishful thinkin' from Hillary's people?

Until I see Al Gore on TV endorsing another candidate, I will continue to believe there is still a chance.

I am not the only person who believes this:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/02/02/brazile_thinks_gore_might_run.html

[wyldwolf]

14. uh... no. There was a thread this weekend which quoted Gore again saying he wasn't in it.

[Apollo11]

53. He's not in it right now

Gore is still telling everyone that he "has no plans" to be a candidate (at this time).

But he has plenty of time to (re)consider his position - or if you prefer "change his mind".

In any case he is better off staying out for the next few months - what I call the "pre-season".

Both Hillary and Edwards are tainted by their votes and statements authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

Both Clark and Obama lack political and campaigning experience at national level.

I find it hard to believe that Gore will remain completely neutral through the primaries.

Either he will endorse one of the announced candidates, or he will make a late entry into the race.

[FrenchieCat]

56. I don't know....Clark did run in the primaries.....

So he's got some experience. Considering he got no press in '04 after Iowa (which he didn't contest)...he still ended up the only candidate to win a state apart from Kerry. That was a minor miracle, considering the blare of the cameras in Kerry and Edwards faces.....

He also beat Edwards 5 out of 9.....through mini-Tuesday.

Here's the rundown, if you care to look.
http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2006/12/wes_clark_did_hella_goodthe_20.html

[Apollo11]

58. OK - the Oklahoma primary

Edwards has slightly more campaigning experience than Wes Clark, winning his Senate race in 1998 and then running for VP alongside JK in 2004. But when it comes to winning races their records are tied 1-1.

Personally I thought Clark's speech to the DNC last Friday was overly militaristic. My own preference would be for a civilian President, not someone who still describes himself as a soldier, and quotes crazy sayings by General MacArthur about how glorious it is to fight and die for Uncle Sam. But he is well qualified to serve as Sec. of Defense.

If Gore refuses to enter the race I will have a tough time finding a candidate to support. Each one has weaknesses. I guess Al Gore has weaknesses also - but I tend to overlook them ... ;)

[Wickerman]

12. I am talking preference

as its all a crap shoot at this point in time. The reason I place Clark above Richardson on a hypothetical ticket is that I can't support him at top ticket with his DP stance. When the time comes, if he is the nominee, I will of course suck it up and support him.

[Deep13]

15. Clintamawards-Gark '08

[ElizabethDC]

25. Perfect

I think I'll endorse that ticket!

[Hippo_Tron]

36. I proposed that Kerry select Jes Clewards as his running mate in '04

Unfortunately he didn't take my advice.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. Advocating for tickets is foolish

No where will any of us find ballots during the 2008 Primaries for a Presidential/ Vice Presidential Ticket. We have no direct say in who becomes VP, and frankly too often supporters of one Presidential candidate throw out the name of another Presidential candidate for one or both of two reasons:

1) To subtly demote another Presidential candidate into a seperate lower league of competition, thus framing their own guy or gal in a superior context.

2) To cover up and/or compensate for difficiencies their own preferred Presidential candidate has.

[wisteria]

17. Richardson will not get my vote- period. I didn't like his antics in 04. n/t

[skipos]

18. He might not done enough in 2004, but he did a lot in 2006

A lot more than most other Governors do to get secure voting.

New Mexico Moves to 100% Paper Ballots
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles/2006/newmexico_paper_ballots.php

[PresidentObama]

19. I prefer Gore/Clark, Clark/Kerry, Clark/Obama n/t

[ripple]

20. I think illegal immigration looms too large right now

for a latino candidate to be elected president. Unfortunately, a lot of idiot voters will see his ethnicity first, especially the truly ignorant who claim "Mexicans are taking over the country", not to mention the simpletons who want to make English the official national language.

Sadly, brown has become the new black.

[paulk]

22. the number of "idiots" swayed by ethnicity would

be balanced by the number of Latinos he brings to the polls, especially in states where that number could tip the electoral balance.

A lot of the simpletons you mention wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway.

[ripple]

34. You might be right

but I'm an avid Washington Journal watcher and I hear the immigration issue brought up frequently by democrats as well as rethugs. I think it's on the radar for a hell of a lot of voters from both parties and while both parties are reluctant to fully address it, I fear that it will be a factor for Richardson. Unfairly so, I might add.

I like Richardson and I'm not saying this to discourage his candidacy by any means. I just worry about the underreported bigotry that exists- and appears to be growing- against people of latino origin in this nation. I hope I'm wrong, but I think it could prove to be a major factor at the polls.

[paulk]

65. and you might be right

living here in Colorado, I've seen plenty of that bigotry.

I see Richardson as more of a VP candidate, where ethnicity might not be as big of a factor. I do think that it would become an issue if he were at the top of the ticket, unfortunately.

I really feel it's a chance the Dems need to take, what with Latinos being the largest and fastest growing minority group in the nation. While most Latinos vote Democratic, the culture is actually pretty socially conservative. It's a group that the right can and has made inroads into. Putting a Hispanic on our ticket would give us the Latino vote for a generation.

Also, the "western strategy", especially in states with large Hispanic populations - like NM, NV, CO, AR, etc. would really get a kick in the pants from a Richardson run. Richardson's "westerness" might trump his ethnicity for a lot of white voters. It did for Ken Salazar here in Colorado.

[Tellurian]

21. AND..The winning combo IS...

Gore/Hillary...

Check out the odds makers on that one!

100-1? $10.00

(with the caveat...Gore runs!)

[elizm]

24. Gore yes...

Hillary is poison.

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[elizm]

27. That's the best you've got??

..Sorry, but I am far from a lurking Republican rug Rat. I have met fellow DUers in DC in January 2005 to contest the 2004 Ohio vote AND in January 2007 (a week ago) to march against the Iraq surge. How about you Tellurian....WERE YOU THERE??????

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[elizm]

57. We are all entitled to our opinions....

...And last time I checked I don't believe you were put in charge of 'stopping' anyone from expressing them.

[Tellurian]

59. Not if your opine is in violation of DU Rules, you're not!

...according to the current DU Rules stated below; calling "Hillary poison.."

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[elizm]

67. ooooh...I'm so afraid.

[Tellurian]

68. ....

:hi:

[Skip Intro]

38. That really IS the ticket, imho. Gore/Clinton - unbeatable.

So many reasons why. Hell, the subconscious but powerful effect of reminding people that there was a time before bush when there was some sunshine falling on this country - Clinton/Gore becomes Gore/Clinton, with slogans like, "we can have those good days again" pledging a return to sanity. That aspect in and of itself, the imagery, if played correctly, could ensure a Dem victory in 08.

[Tellurian]

55. Yes, the ultimate unbeatable ticket!

The redemption of our country by a president waiting
almost a decade to claim what was rightfully his all along.

It's the stuff American dreams are made of-

[Clarkie1]

29. Wow, I just posted exactly the same thoughts in a Richardson thread!

Of course, I have Clark/Richardson as my first choice, but still....

Like they say, great minds...

[snowbear]

30. Clark/Richardson.. only thing we need is..........

...Clark to enter the (&^$@ race !!!

[skipos]

32. Clark & Richardson would be great. nt

[ShortnFiery]

62. Yes, Clark / Richardson. eom

[Czolgosz]

31. I'm not a fan of Richardson based on my understanding of his positions on issues. I would reconsider

if I were to learn that I was mistaken about his positions on issues which are important to me.

Public School Vouchers

I understand Richardson supports a system where public school vouchers and charter schools would undercut public school funding


Progressive Taxation

I understand Richardson favors extending tax cuts for the wealthy


Immigration

I understand Richardson favors revoking the law that automatically extends citizenship to children born in the US of illegal parents


War

I understand Richardson is hawkish and favors increased military spending


Fair Trade

I understand Richardson is a big NAFTA supporter


Church-State Separation

I understand Richardson supports the faith-based initiatives to allow religious organizations to provide services previously provided by government


Criminal Justice

I understand Richardson supports the death penalty and mandatory "three strikes" sentencing and prison over treatment for drug crimes



Unless I am mistaken about a majority of these positions, Richardson is a non-starter for me.

[cascadiance]

33. Gore/Feingold is my ideal ticket...

And no, I'm not necessarily looking for the most "progressive" ticket. I'm looking for the most non-corporate ticket that will help lead some fundamental changes come 2009. We will need an FDR-style revolution of sorts come then to fix so many things that are broken now. And any DLC candidate need not apply for my vote! Al Gore was a *former* DLC candidate and gives every indication of having learned the valuable lesson from that experience.

I think Gore knows that the DLC and the corporate machine behind them plays a lot of hardball, and he wants to calculate pretty carefully how to enter the race so that he doesn't get smashed out like Dean did in 2004.

[Hippo_Tron]

35. Richardson can't raise the money that's needed to win the nomination

Despite his lack of popularity on DU I'll admit that Richardson has some real strengths. But again, he can't raise the $100 million that is needed to compete in the front loaded primary system unless there's a major blunder that drops Hillary, Obama, or Edwards into the second tier and Richardson is able to capitalize on it. And considering how cautious Hillary, Obama, and Edwards all are I honestly don't see any of them making a serious blunder in the primaries.

[Clarkie1]

37. Oh, poo poo you party pooper you!

Honestly though, I think you are wrong. I really do. Richardson will be a rising star, and Edwards will not be a first tier candidate.

[Hippo_Tron]

39. How does Richardson raise the cash?

His potential fundraising base is from the Clintons and Hillary has that tied up. Maybe he has a shot with getting Latino groups to be his major source but I don't think it will be enough.

Again, this isn't 1992 anymore. Front loaded primaries require you to raise an absurd amount of money and to forgo federal matching funds.

[Czolgosz]

41. He won't need that much cash because he's running for VP - he's too smart to think he has much of a

chance.

I see Richardson seeking to serve as Hillary's VP

[snowbear]

43. Richardson isn't running for VP...

And Hillary Schmillary!

No freak'n way. She'll be out of the race by May 15th, 2007 - 2:30 > 3:00 p.m-ish (at the latest)

Sure. She has ample of support from Republicans desperate to ensure she's our nominee ---- and she has Freepnoid plants up the kazoo.

But even here at DU, you'd be hard-pressed to find 8 - 10 (honest) Hillary supporters.

Billionaires have personal limitations just like anyone.. But they do have a LOT of power and influence to get a ton of money to their candidate.

Hillary has her billionaire. Rupert Murdoch of Faux is dying to get her the Democratic nod!

And the good Governor in NM has Richard Branson ~

But right now, I give the "billionaire's club" to Barack Obama..



As far as billionaires, he's got (so far) George Soros, Steven Spielberg, Oprah Winfrey, Penny Pritzker and Warren Buffet -- and he'll do just fine (as will Governor Richardson) in raising the big bucks.



Are you judging "today's polls" for your assumption that Hillary is a shoe-in?

[Czolgosz]

61. I don't see Hillary as a shoe in. I see a tight race among Hillary, Obama, Edwards, Clark, (Gore?)

Among those, Hillary is my last choice.

I see Richardson casting for a nod on a Hillary/Richardson ticket because (1) I don't believe he can get the nomination, (2) I believe Richardson's smart enough to know this, (3) he does not appear to be running to affect the scope of the debate (like Kucinich) or simply for self aggrandizement (like Biden or Dodd), (4) Richardson has a very tight relationship with the Clintons, (5) he balances Hillary well geographically and otherwise (there is some polling which suggests that Hispanic men are not drawn to Anglo female candidates). Considering all of these factors together, I perceive Richardson's main motive as seeking a VP slot, most likely with the hope/anticipation of a Hillary nomination.

[Clarkie1]

44. The cream will rise to the top. nt

[Hippo_Tron]

47. I think Richardson is most likely of the second tier to make it to the first tier

But then again that's assuming your top choice doesn't announce.

But you have to realize that for Clark or Richardson to have a shot of getting into the first tier they would really have to blow the top candidates away in the debates and really make Clinton, Obama, and Edwards backers reconsider their decision. Either that or one of the three will have to seriously flop. Also if Gore gets in that gives Clark or Richardson even less of a chance to emerge.

The system isn't what it used to be. Super Tuesday is on February 5th this time and no longer can a candidate emerge from nowhere by winning the Iowa or New Hampshire and then go on to winning the nomination.

[eridani]

42. Not until he apologizes for throwing NM to Bush in 2004

This is a huge barrier for election integrity activists. A party that won't even defend its own voters isn't worth warm spit, IMO.

[snowbear]

45. He'll apologize when Kerry apologizes for Ohio.

Deal?

[eridani]

46. I haven't forgiven Kerry for Ohio either n/t

[skipos]

63. This isn't an apology, but since 2004 he has done more for secure voting

than most governors.
http://uvotenm.org/richardsonletter.html

[saltpoint]

48. I think your ticket is entirely electable. It's a good thing to

speculate on the many terrific Democrats' possible ticket combinations.

Al Gore / Howard Dean

John Edwards / Kathleen Sebelius

Wes Clark / Dick Durbin

Barack Obama / Brian Schweitzer

Hillary Clinton / Max Cleland

Joe Biden / Bill Richardson

Mario Cuomo / Bill Moyers

Al Gore / Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Christopher Dodd / Mike Gravel

John Edwards / Tom Harkin

Barack Obama / Bob Graham

Wes Clark / Bill Bradley

Hillary Clinton / Evan Bayh

Joe Biden / Jeff Bingaman

etc.

[snowbear]

49. Crusoe, you forgot one...

Former VA Governor Mark Warner ~~

He may link up with General Clark...

I heard it thru' the grapevine..


California Raisin

[saltpoint]

50. Hi, larissa. I left Warner, Kerry and others out, thinking they had

withdrawn from the race.

Did I miss a reconsidered announcement by Warner?

I think he has a very good chance of making the VP position -- an anti-death penalty Democrat from the Old Dominion who's demonstrably popular and has a great sense of humor -- but had not heard he was back in the race.

Where have I been?

[snowbear]

51. Oh... No.. I meant that he'd likely accept a VP slot..

...depending on the candidate if he's not in a senate or mayoral race at the time..

[saltpoint]

52. Ah. Well, he'd be very high on any candidate's list, is my guess.

How fun it would be to turn Virginia blue.

At the same time, I'd love to see John Warner step down and Mark Warner run and win that Senate seat. We can always use more people like Mark Warner and fewer people like John Warner in that chamber.

[Czolgosz]

64. A ticket that included Edwards and Warner or Clark vs. a Repub ticket with Giuliani at the top would

cause the heads of many white southern/anti-yankee fundamentalist Repub-leaning NASCAR dads to explode. I think a Giuliani/Romney ticket would be a perfect storm for the Repubs to alienate those white southern fundamentalist types.

[Strawman]

60. I'd put my money on Clinton/Richardson

The primary season is too front loaded for a grassroots campaign to catch fire unless some grassroots campaign raises a buttload more cash than expected in small donations now during the money primary. HRC will simply have everyone else outgunned on the ground. It will be over quickly absent a major slip up on her part. Edwards has an outside shot if Bonior can deliver labor unions.

[Clark2008]

66. I doubt Clark would be anyone's VP candidate.

It would totally under-utilize his talents.

But, I take heart in the fact that nearly everyone's supporter wants Wes on the ticket.

Maybe we should all compromise and make him the lead of the ticket since he's the second favorite of about 90 percent of the non-Clark supporters here! :7

Nice try, though. :hi:

[wyldwolf]

69. that's what they all say... until the call comes in.

Nice try, though

[Clark2008]

70. You'd really want him to waste his talents on that job, though?

Why?

[wyldwolf]

71. It wouldn't be a waste.

You'd rather he not be in office at all, I see.

[Apollo11]

72. Clark would make a fine Sec. of Defense

in the Gore Administration (even if it is wishful thinking at this stage in the game).

I know there's a rule about being out of the military for 10 years first.

Clark retired in May 2000. So that would mean he should wait until May 2010.

Maybe Congress can make an exception - like they did for George Marshall in 1950.


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[Auntie Bush]

73. I like that...but CLARK should be head of the ticket with RICHARDSON as VP.

Clark is much too intelligent and is the one with military experience and should be the one in charge and making final decisions. Richardson can give him the executive experience and the Hispanic vote with all those pluses you mentioned. Clark could win the General Election easier than Bill and he's much more presidential looking. Clark/Richardson would make a winning ticket.

[noonwitch]

74. Richardson is the one the GOP is scared of

He's tough on immigration and supportive of gun rights. He's from a southwest state, and he hasn't taken any radically liberal stands on issues. He wasn't in Congress for the Iraq vote, so he has no record on that issue that can be held against him.

I like him, but I like all the candidates in the running except Biden and Kucinich. The former is an arrogant plagerist and the latter is not ever going to be taken seriously as a candidate.