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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:48 PM
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Questions Mount Over New Hampshire's Primary
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Landes0210.htm

It's been all downhill for Howard Dean since he lost the New Hampshire primary by a significant margin. But, now questions are being raised about the security of New Hampshire's voting system in the wake of a recent analysis of the election results. It could add up to nothing, but it does underscore how easily technology can be used to sabotage the voting process.


Only one company, Massachusetts-based LHS Associates, Inc., programs and services all of New Hampshire's optical (ballot) scanners. Only two manufacturers, GOP-friendly Diebold and ES&S, provide all of the state's scanning equipment. And only Microsoft's Excel software tallies the results of all of those machines. It looks like New Hampshire has put all its eggs in one basket.


However, New Hampshire is unusual. Unlike many states that allow ballot-less voting, in 1995 the New Hampshire legislature passed a law that requires paper ballots in all elections. Has this law made New Hampshire’s voting system any more secure? Twenty percent of the ballots are hand-counted, but 80% are optically scanned - a technology that has a long history of being highly vulnerable to election fraud, which is documented in various reports as well as in the book, VoteScam: The Stealing of Democracy.


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I've been asking about this since Dean's "demise" in NH. But people
just brushed off the comments...glad to see somebody else writing
about it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:51 PM
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1. You might be right
but the results of NH corresponded with the Zogby poll
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:56 PM
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3. 1st post sets it straight
congratulations and thank you.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:54 PM
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2. the media and the "power" got their vote...don't look for recount or
fraud with BBV... when it comes up in the GE i'll be happy to remind people of the voting "irregularities" in the dem primary which the DNC did or said "nothing".
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:59 PM
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4. I will remember too.
The questions about New Hampshire are a perfect test case of the system we'll be trusting to choose the president. I'd say this is an excellent time to prove, once and for all, if it was honest. I'm still troubled by the numbers showing Dean losing by 14+% in computerized precincts, and only 1.5% in paper precincts. That just begs for answers. If it's up and up.. fine. I just want to know NOW.. not when the Supreme Court does a replay for Bush in November.
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:05 PM
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5. I thought about this when voting today
In the past my voting place has used the optical scanning sheets, but when I went in today (VA) they had these electronic tablets. I froze when the woman showed them to me. My mind flooded with all the BBV stuff I've read here. Salon had an article on it all just yesterday, I think, too. I wanted to ask whether or not there'd be a paper trail but didn't really have time to get into it. Would've been pointless anyway. (From what I could see, there isn't.)

I just walked away hoping all the stuff I've read about *possibly* happening didn't actually happen. Since it's a primary my main concern was more the loss of votes than actual fraud, but come November....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:07 PM
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6. I wouldn't mind seeing paper too. Clark made up a lot of ground on Edwards
at the end of the night.

Diebold gave more money to Edwards's oponent Lauch Faircloth, than to any other candidate in America. Afraid of Edwards?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:33 PM
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7. Shameless bump....because....
I'm really surprised how people don't question the primaries
election process. Everybody takes it for granted...especially those
whose candidate comes out on top (and by a big margin I might add).
I personally haven't made up my mind on which dem I would vote for
but it sure as hell isn't Kerry nor Dean. I still find it interesting,
from observations that I have made, that Dean's dismissal by the DLC
clearly shows and the subsequent "voting results" are rather
peculiar. Out of the blue Kerry becomes the "number one choice".

Very strange...oh well, back we go to the televised "democracy".
Enjoy.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:37 PM
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8. "Massachusetts-based...?"
Ruh-roh.


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