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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:16 PM
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Ha ha! Sometimes Tweety even gets to a calm, courteous type like Josh Marshall
...as opposed to how Tweety gets to the unwashed, unsophisticated types like ME virtually every time I watch "Hardball"!

(January 03, 2007 -- 01:45 PM EST // link)
"Great moments in chat show journalism: Chris Matthews asks, Was Jerry Ford a nice guy or a real nice guy ..."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011776.php
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:19 PM
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1. Steven Colbert: The Iraq War- great war, or
greatest war?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:39 PM
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6. Only in Bushworld could the comedian guy be a far better journalist
than the journalist guy!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:26 PM
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2. Love Josh Marshall, but that wasn't exactly
what the clip said. Matthews also prefaced it by saying it was a puffball question.
In the whole world of creepy chat-journalism, this is pretty innocuous
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 06:57 PM
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3. I dunno...Tweety was pretty obnoxious in trashing Dems while the Fords
waited to bury Gerry at the Ford Museum. He went into his own "personal story" of alcohol addition...admiring Betty for giving it up and that her hubby gave it up when she did.

Tweety kind of was likening himself to the Fords in that "giving up alcohol for ones Spouse" was a really good thing.

Methinks Tweety was in "Detox" rather than in hospital for Diabetes..given his cracking up over the Fords in that dialog. :shrug:
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:33 PM
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4. Hmm... interesting
Whenever a famous or political person disappears for a while due to "health", I must admit such thoughts always cross my mind. (Except for Tim Johnson--I completely believe he has what they say he has!)

I had never known that the Tweetster had ever had alcohol addiction problems. I sincerely hope he has conquered them fully--really, I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have him to kick around! :)

And, I mean, he gives us so much material! He always seems to be sniping at democrats and engaging in sickening, embarrassing, kowtowing to repukes!
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:01 AM
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7. guess y'all saw this
The FBI's 1986 report on Rehnquist's drug dependence was not released at the time of his confirmation, though some Democratic senators wanted it made public. But it is in Rehnquist's now-public file, and it contains new details about his behavior during his weeklong hospital stay in December 1981. One physician whose name is blocked out told the FBI that Rehnquist expressed "bizarre ideas and outrageous thoughts. He imagined, for example, that there was a CIA plot against him."

The doctor said Rehnquist "had also gone to the lobby in his pajamas in order to try to escape." The doctor said Rehnquist's delirium was consistent with him suddenly stopping his apparent daily dose of 1400 milligrams of the drug -- nearly three times higher than the 500-milligram maximum recommended by physicians. The doctor said, "Any physician who prescribed it was practicing very bad medicine, bordering on malpractice."

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.law.com%2Fjsp%2Farticle.jsp%3Fid%3D1167818524831
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:34 AM
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9. Wow! Thank you! He was addicted to Placidyl???
That sh*t is potent! I once had a relative in the hospital after major surgery, and he was temporarily given that stuff. Whoa! It was the only time I ever saw that relative have seriously weird delusions. I mean, that stuff will whack you out! I asked what the doctors were giving him, and was told, and I vowed always to remember the name of such a potent medicine--for fear some doctor would someday try to give it to ME after some surgery or something. (Fortunately, no doctor ever has.)

Also amusing that Rehnquist was arrested for vagrancy for sleeping on that courthouse lawn. How ironic--considering the, er, controversy about repukes and homeless people.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:28 AM
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8. He got sober years ago
He's talked about it fairly regularly over the years, it's no secret. Anybody in recovery respects Betty Ford immensely, she moved treatment from a shameful thing in dingy buildings to a disease that can afflict anybody. It's only natural he would make respectful comments and it is highly unlikely it's got anything to do with detox.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:41 AM
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10. Okay, I accept that the Tweetster is no longer addicted, but I have a question.
First, let me say that my work routinely brings me into contact with addicts of all sorts: not only those addicted to street drugs, but persons with problems kicking drugs which are legally prescribed to them, and with persons who are alcoholics.

After years of watching this panorama, there is one thing I can say for sure: I've never really seen anyone kick a serious drug or alcohol addiction without a few false starts, "backsliding", relapses, etc. And it is true that they must remain vigilant against relapses.

Now, given that fact, isn't it funny how, whenever a famous person's addiction (*cough!* Dubya!) is made public, we are always told that once the person is gotten off their substance(s), they "have been sober ever since"? We are always told "that was then; this is now"--"He's over all that now and will never go back." Blah blah blah. Yet this sort of statement flies in the face of EVERYTHING I've ever observed about the actual, arduous process that addicts go through. In every addict I've ever known personally, relapse was a routine problem.

But famous people who kick their habit NEVER relapse!:)
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:54 AM
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11. I beg to differ
both I (15 years) and my husband (20 years) got sober and stayed sober the first try

while I admit it often takes a couple relapses, it can be done without them

IIRC Brett Farve also got clean and stayed clean :shrug:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:25 PM
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12. I did
My husband did. We never relapsed and it'll be 24 years this year. I know plenty of people who never relapsed. Maybe you haven't quite figured out how to 'stick with the winners' yet, I don't know.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 08:21 PM
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13. I've been a "Tweety Watcher" and don't remember him "revealing secrets"
on his show about this that I saw... But, I do know that some nights his "right eyelid drooped" almost like a stroke victim and that many DU'ers and Media Matters Web Site has commented about how erratic he is on his show...

I think he was in Drug Rehab..and Diabetes was the cover...because he is very weird and I've not heard him ever have sympathy for AA....:shrug:

He's a Drunk who couldn't admit it like the "Chimp" and he goes into Rehab every "once in awhile" to keep his credibility with the big GE BOSSES?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 07:37 PM
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5. No argument there!
The Tweetster has said MUCH more outrageous or banal things than THAT!

Like when he suggested George W. Bush ought to be on Mt. Rushmore--or when he referred to Dumbya's "sunny nobility":puke: or when he said something like, "Ever'body kinda likes the Prezdent--except for a few wackos on the left!":puke: :puke: :puke:

If Josh REALLY wants to see the most sickening, meaningless, softball, pathetic questions ever, he should watch Larry King.:)
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