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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:02 AM
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How McCain Became Irrelevant
While still being touted as a frontrunner, McCain's credibility has slipped. He's dug his own grave; in order to appease religious conservative critics, he's abandoned the principled conservatives and moderates who once supported him. Now neither group fully trusts him, and his once rock-solid public image has begun to erode. Voters will want a fresh face (particularly after the midterms), and McCain will become the symbol of the tired old politics he campaigned against in 2000. I say watch Romney and Brownback. Maybe Huckabee, maybe Gingrich. Not McCain.

Any thoughts? Just something I was thinking.
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:05 AM
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1. All to true. I used to have respect for McCain up until the last 2 years or so.
I bought the "independent maverick" act hook, line, and sinker.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:13 AM
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2. A full Fox News panel were dogging out Romney just yesterday....
Called him a Flip Flopper, rehearsed and insincere.

I don't think the RW media want a MA Republican winning, no matter how "Matinee Idol" he is. Plus he's Mormon and I'm not sure they are going to go with that. When you couple that with his lack of experience in Foreign affairs, I'm not sure that he fits the standard, except for in the "Presidential Looks" department. Republicans are a lot of things, but they know what they don't want; an empty good looking suit who has no clue on national defense.

So I'm gonna keep my eyes on BrownBack and Huckabee. (Boy, the Repigs have a terrible group to select from--Too Bad! LOL!)

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:17 AM
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3. I'll vote for that.!!! How messed up are they. Watch Romney , Brownback...
Huckabee, Maybe Gingrich...oh lord, they're finished, period. The only reason Romney is remotely
tolerable as a prospect is his appearance. So what! 2008 won't be about 'just a regular joe' or
'handsome gazillionaire.' It will be about the survival of the nation with the back draft of Iraq
fully integrated into both our national psyche and economy and the prospect of no more Florida when
that pesky 20' sea level rise shows up by 2100 (and no more a few more places too).

We're haded for hard times. About all we can do is hope Gore runs because he will have the appearance
and reality of the kind of person who can lead the most critical period in our history, as a species
not a nation. These Republicans are a bunch of light weights and they've got the curse of Iraq
proponents. They're done, stick a fork in them.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:22 AM
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4. Alas, there are scores of millions...
of 'mericans who don't even follow politics who won't have a clue how unworthy the guy is...
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:40 AM
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5. What about Chuck Hagel?
I think Chuck Hagel would be the repukes best choice. He seems to be moderate enough to appeal to all the repukes that are fed up with the neocons.

Hagel could be the next "Maverick" McCain!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:21 AM
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7. Hagel is shoe in cause he own the company that does the software for the electronic voting machines
that is how he became senator to begin with
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:20 AM
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9. Provided there isn't a change before 2008
Throw those machines out. It's well worth the wasted money.

And never let people forget Hagel's voting machine ties, and the fact that he tried to hide them.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:19 AM
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6. well that homo-erotic leg humping and hugging he did on * at the convention didn't help either,,
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Flagius Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:04 AM
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8. Don't be surprised...
Don't be surprised if we see a'McCain/Lieberman' ticket in '08.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:24 AM
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10. Ick, Ick, Ick!!!! nt
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:05 AM
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13. Lieberman is despised in the country at large
He would sink any GOP ticket.

It's only in the Beltway that he is given any kind of credibility.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 05:25 AM
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11. The same can be said about Lieberman
Events on the ground will increasingly marginalize both men.

If I were a GOP candidate (and Gingrich is the only one with the brains to do this) I would start referring to more troops in Iraq as the "McCain Plan." I read a blog that surmised that McCain probably felt it was a safe, yet smart political move to advocate more troops - never thinking it would actually happen. Now that it may he's up shit's creek.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:55 AM
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12. I say the 'whole view' will change once the oversight gets going!
McCain and a whole bunch of other Repub whores will be flushed away, once the people realize what they have been hiding over the last few years. Opinions are great for discussions, but nothing like some black and white documented truth to stop all debate!
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