I Just Talked To Christine Jennings Personally... District 13/Florida

[ChiciB1]

I went down to the headquarters and she was there and she told me that they were getting lots of help now. Also told me she appreciates all the interest and thanks everyone for all their input and financial help! She gave me a big hug and thanked me for coming all the way from where I live to her office, but I wanted to hear from her myself. I was told by a staffer that they were going to protest and never heard anything else.

So I did find out... THERE WILL BE NO Protest On Monday! She said there will be TWO recounts but that's not enough and hopes to get to the bottom of this one way or the other!

Earlier in the week they had planned to protest in front of the Supervisor of Elections office here, but I guess since this was Cruella's old seat we aren't letting go of the bone yet! I told her if they needed any help to keep in touch, but the have a "plan" in the works!! She didn't go into any great detail, but lawyers are "on board!"

So, it's just sit and wait time. I did tell her that WE don't want to quit and she said she will win it. Of course, we just don't know but she's thinking positively for now! But Buchanan has his friends in HIGH places, including that Bushie Jebby and for all I know EVEN The Idiot!

[NMDemDist2]

1. they need to revote the entire county. K&N n/t

[ChiciB1]

2. I DO Agree With You!!! Even If They Only Do Sarasota County

I will be happy, because it was THIS county THAT ACTUALLY voted for Davis over Crist, which in and of itself says volumes!!

This is a "red" county... take my word for it, but it has begun to change! I don't know if the change will be permanent but for now I'm very happy about it!

[Nimrod2005]

5. Revote in Sarasota is in order...IMO.

[Nimrod2005]

4. It would cool if they do that...Just to show that we won't sloppy results stand!

[Nimrod2005]

3. Thanks for the update...Kendall Coffee from Gore 2000 gate is working for her

And both local election supervisor and the state's said they want to get to the bottom of it...I think that's why no protests for now. Even Jeb was quoted yesterday as saying that results were not normal and we need to look into it.

I am staying positive for now...We'll see.

[ChiciB1]

7. Oh Thanks For THAT Info... I Didn't KNOW Jebby Said That!

Jennings is very much on the "moderate" side and a little reserved IMO, but still I WANT this seat!!

I was so sure it was going to be a "done" deal, especially here in Sarasota County, but funny things must have happened, and I JUST want this crap to STOP!! I've lived with these people for so long now and they need a good bashing! Cruella & Kathy Dent were poured from the same mold!

[Vorta]

6. Not exactly off topic

Gov. Jeb Bush, who appointed Cobb, said he was concerned with the undervotes. "That anomaly seems unusual," he said.

It runs in the family.

[ChiciB1]

8. Ain't It Funny How They "Appoint" These Repukes All The Time???

This is another issue that needs to be changed!!!

[Vorta]

9. Fox guarding the henhouse nt

[ChiciB1]

10. My Daughter & I Both Called Cobb BEFORE The Election....

It was about Robo-Calls... they only would take our phone number and said that it might take up to 2 weeks to remove our name! We told them... No, YOU WILL REMOVE the numbers NOW!!

Then we called after the election and could get NO ANSWER!!

[Vorta]

11. I only got robo calls from Equality Florida and Rick Kriseman (both welcome of course)

Sometimes I think we're not on the radar. Are you inland?

[ChiciB1]

12. No... Right On The West Coast... We Complained Locally &

to the state!! I actually was making calls for Democrats and it got kind of hairy! I stopped making ANY calls the Saturday before the election because it was pretty stressful!

The Robo-calls were from Vern Buchanan that started out sounding like it was Jennings! Many people just hung up before they heard the whole thing.

[Vorta]

14. I'm in Pinellas, home of gerrymandering

I can't believe they get away with this. The southeastern tip of Pinellas County, which has been heavily black since late sixties to early seventies, is actually part of a congressional district in Tampa. Pinellas County is almost 50/50 Republican, but by redistricting out about 25,000 largely black (and considerable white democrats who didn't leave in the white flight as well as urban renewal folk) it guarantees that the Republican will always win this congressional district. Their excuse or justification for this is that this also guarantees a Democrat will win a segment of Tampa which is actually known for Republicans (Palma Ceia). Anyway you look at it though, it's wrong.

[ChiciB1]

17. I Lived In Largo For A Long Time... I Liked It Better Than

here. I have 2 sisters who still live in the area. One in Largo & one in Seminole! I know the area very very well! Did a lot of partying in St. Pete and back then it was much more Democratic! I lived off of Ridge Road close to Park Blvd.

I also have 2 neices who live in St. Pete! I go up there from time to time, and it's more fun to party there!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

13. A suit needs to be filed to invalidate the vote

I think it is clear from the outrageously high percentage of undervotes that it was NOT voter choice to skip the race, and that for many reasons fault lies with the machines.

There are numerous eyewitness accounts testifying to the fact that the machine did not record voter intent to cast a vote for this race.

There are numerous eyewitness accounts testifying to the fact that confirmation of a non-vote could easily have been missed.

There are numerous accounts testifying to the fact that the race was not displayed prominently and could easily have been missed altogether. This was especially true amongst older voters not used to the machines and using them for the first time.
The fact that the undervote occurred most overwhelmingly in senior communites (one had a rate of 30%) is evidence that he machines are discriminatory towards older voters, and represent a form of disenfranchisment.

if I were a lawyer I would be puttng together this list to file a suit invalidating the vote based on... unequal protection.

[rodeodance]

15. yes, i agree.

[ChiciB1]

16. North Port & Newtown Were Also Places That The Vote Was

NOT recorded. Newtown is a predominently African American section of Sarasota. Not sure about North Port, but that could be the older vote!

What really really made me mad was the fact that Kathy Dent said right away that she felt it was the people with SAFE who were complaining. Then she said that she thought it was because both candidates were from Sarasota! Now, she's eating her words because this IS being investigated and we have a real spotlight on it! I just hope they find that SHE had a finger in this pie!

She's a real piece of work and not one you want to talk to. Always on the offensive and abrasive too! She's had many write-ups in the newspaper about other so-so mis-deeds, but she always explained them away! Time for HER TO GO too!!!

[happydreams]

18. I'm glad to see this. Never quit fighting for the truth. Even though

the dems are in a majority each case of election fraud should be pursued with vigor.

[BeFree]

19. Glad to see you posting this

This may be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back for paperless voting in Fla. Don't let it die. Make sure the news keeps telling the story and try to get a protest going.

And keep us posted! Thanks, ChiciB.

[Sancho]

20. I think the same thing happened in the Castor/Martinez race in Pinellas...

My wife's touch screen wouldn't record her Castor vote, and she complained, but after they removed the machine...we saw them reboot it and put it back in line...

I suspect they hack a few votes on the touch screens in every election they expect to lose. It's just that they sometimes make mistakes like this last time in Sarasota and the hack is too much or becomes visible.

At this point, I've seen TOO many local elections where Dem. locals win and some amendment or senate race mysteriously goes to the ****'s.

We need to get rid of the machines and watch every piece of paper while it's counted.

[flpoljunkie]

21. Read this from Johns Hopkins Professor, Avi Rubin about the "recount" in the House race in Sarasota!

http://avi-rubin.blogspot.com

The DRE vendors like to pretend that they can perform recounts. They take the vote totals on the machines and print corresponding ballots, and then count them by hand. Let me give an analogy to demonstrate how silly that is. It would be comical if vendors weren't actually doing it and convincing people that they were performing a recount.

Imagine if you had a word document on your computer, and the document stated some fact. You were not sure if the fact was true. So, to verify the fact, you print the word document, and then you read it out loud and say, "Ah, if that's what it says, then it must be true because I'm looking at a printout." What the vendors are doing is printing out the questionable results and then counting them. Of course they are going to match what was on the machine, but they do not provide an independent count. The so-called recounts of DREs are really just print and count, not RE-count. It is a waste of time.

Now, we hear that in Sarasota County, there were 18,000 undervotes in the race for the 13th congressional seat. The race is expected to be decided by fewer than 400 votes. If paper ballots had been used, the huge number of undervotes could be investigated. Without them, there is no recourse - no way to figure out why this happened. I have several theories. Perhaps that many people just did not care about that race. Unlikely in my opinion. Most likely is that the human interface, that is, candidate placement on the ballot caused many people to miss that race. The next possibility is that a software glitch caused votes in that race not to be counted. Finally, it is possible that someone actually did something to cause this. The problem with paperless voting is that we'll never know, and there will never be any way to find out.

It is unbelievable that the control of the US senate is coming down to a close race that cannot be recounted, and for which there are no physical ballots. The vendors may come out with their "emperor's clothes" recounts, but the public should understand that these are not really recounts, they are just print and count.

Posted by Avi Rubin: at 4:09 PM