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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:12 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do you support the concept of a line item veto? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree about line-item veto, but expect it can't be sold across the spectrum |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I agree. Putting any more power in shrubs hands is scary. |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 02:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. And when the President you "trust" leaves office... |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. O.K., everybody voting "no" please tell me why I'm wrong. nt |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Too much power and it's unconstitutional. nt |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I understand the "too much power" arguement. How is it unconstitutional? nt |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. The Supreme Court says so..... |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yeah, that's pretty much it right there. Without an amendemnt, it's unconstitutional |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Well, 3 justices including O'Conner said it was constitutional. |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Three out of nine doesn't count. It's unconstitutional. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe a line-item veto would make sense in another era, but... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Clearly, some boundaries should be established. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The last line item had that oversight. Whatever item get vetoed goes back |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think the line-item veto is justified if the provision vetoed does not have |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Why? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. To cut down on pork. All things being equal it makes more sense to me. nt |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. I used to think this was a good idea, but I've chaned my mind. |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Agreed |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why... |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. So you are proposing congress only be allowed to vote on one item at a time? nt |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Why Not? |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Because it's undemocratic. |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. What would be so... |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Yes, I am aware of that! How do you propose getting congress to behave? nt |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. IMHO: |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. That's a good point. It definitely starts with the American people be more engaged |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. If it goes back to Congress |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
15. sure as long as it's my person in the WH, since it's not than no and since |
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stonecoldsober (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. No way! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. The President is the executive not the legislature |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. It undermines our power |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
44. I agree. It shifts responsibility for legislative accountability from the voter to the President. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Would support line-item veto if it deleted Republicans |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. No. (nt) |
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Generic Brad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. They're as bad as signing statements |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
25. Ah, now there's the fly in the ointment. Would you trust a Republican? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. Congress makes the law. |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. I did, until W was appointed to office |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. I agree with liv on principle... |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
29. No. It is a step towards autocracy, and is highly undemocratic. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. What about Congress being required merely to vote on recommendations |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
33. No, that doesn't work either. |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The 2005 budget had 15877 earmarks, or pork items. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Wow, it's even worse than I thought. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
35. The tools are already in place for a fiscal responsible government. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
37. No, because it makes one person's decisions about all others. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
39. It would be the same as making Junior's signing statements legal. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
45. Only in the hands of a (real) Democratic POTUS. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
49. Unconstitutional. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. No, this is why... |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-31-06 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
51. No |
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