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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:40 PM
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An "election" has to at least look plausible, & right now it would
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 10:22 PM by texpatriot2004
not appear plausible for the GOP to win. One point about election fraud and stolen elections in America - the results have to at least appear possible and likely. Of course, as many of us know, the Corporate Media can easily manipulate public perception. Still, right now, bad news abounds for the Rethugs and Thank God for that. Finally, they are in the hot seat (they never can take what they dish out). Leaking like a sieve they are. If the "election" were tomorrow, with all the polls indicating landslides for the Democrats but things stayed the way they are now; all the same people in all the same places, well then, it just wouldn't look right. It wouldn't look plausible. For this I am truly grateful.

I wonder what would happen if they all stayed in "power" and it didn't look plausible. What if, everything points to the Democrats (again) and yet the Rethugs stay? How far can it go in America? How not plausible can the results of an American "election" look? I wonder. You? BTW I hope and pray I/we don't have to find out.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:43 PM
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1. I agree with you, but you're gunna need one of these ...........
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:47 PM
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4. A hazmat suit? nm
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:44 PM
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2. Before the fire & brimstone comes down
Lemme just say, I agree with you, too.

:kick:

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:47 PM
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3. I know, right nm
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:47 PM
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5. Plausibility. You nailed it. n/t
MKJ
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:49 PM
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6. Yup.
And if we pound it home with good phone work, everyone and their brother will end up knowing 5 people defecting from the Republicans this year. It is that type of personal anecdotal reality for most Americans that can put this one out of Republican reach.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:17 PM
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20. Well said. nm
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:52 PM
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7. I agree completely. That is what will likely save this election.
Elections can be stolen when they're close, and it kinda looks like a toss-up going in. Easier to bullshit your way past the gallows that were meant for you. But with things stacking up the way they are now, with the polls showing such lopsided voter preference for Dems, to have that suddenly, mysteriously switch and all the same bastards get back in, it would just smell a LITTLE BIT too fishy. Conditions surrounding this election are different than in 2000, 2002 and 2004. MUCH different. And MUCH more hostile toward the bad guys. There's less uncertainty, less wishy-washy voter sentiment, less shrugging over the perception that one party's no different from another. It's not like that anymore. People are angry. And I suspect this anger will look like a kiddie party at the local zoo compared to the anger if the same schmucks get their leases renewed.

It's gonna be harder to steal an election and get away with it this time. Because it's just gonna look REALLY suspicious. So much so that I'd bet even the news media will start taking second looks.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:07 PM
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10. Agreed, and yes even the Media might not be able to turn a
blind eye.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:55 PM
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8. actually....the way 'voting machine' errors..
keep on sneaking into news programs like Lou Dobbs, etc., the perception come election day may very well be that the election is not accurate, but as in Ohio, when any remedy is blocked and thwarted...well...it will be interesting to see.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:43 PM
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14. you're right about these issues coming into the light more and
more. It will be interesting indeed.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:59 PM
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9. Compartmentalization. Deniability. Plausibility.
The required components of any successful conspiracy.

And I agree, it appears that plausibility is a long shot at this point.

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:29 PM
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13. Interesting components nm
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:13 PM
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11. This is why we cannot be complacent and a bit of caution
is in order.

The National Polls look great for Democrats. In fact, I
maintain that if we lose--our Party needs to rethink
a lot of things.

Some of the more serious pundits ie, Mark Halprin, ABC
and John Harris WaPo. have written a book using the
Clinton and Bush approach for winning elections.
They spell out how to win in clear language. They
have been making the rounds selling their book.

They both have been given more time to speak because
they get time to talk about the book. They too
agree that all the signs are great for a Democratic win.
However they each take time to explain that the National
Polls and what happens in each state(Senate) and district(House)
race is a very individual matter. They point out the
polls reflect that a high percentage of Americans are
happy with their their own Congressman or Senator.
Will there be enough anger ,disgust, whatever to
make people vote against their own member?
When they explain this , it is important that Dems work
hard up until the last vote is cast. At least they have the
wind at their back. So far we have the Independents who
have walked away from the Republicans--remember those
people in middle who could never make up their mind the
last election. Our women seem to have come home also.

It is great to get good news, but we cannot grow complacent.






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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:21 PM
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12. I am not complacent but I know what you mean nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:58 PM
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15. Plausible as in "Seemingly or apparently valid, likely,
or acceptable; credible."
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:40 PM
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16. Credible, there's a word Rethugs don't have going for them now
zero credibility.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:50 AM
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17. Kick it for the morning crowd nm
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:02 AM
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18. IOW, "How're we gonna explain our win THIS time?"
That has to the most hotly debated question in repuke campaign circles at the moment.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:06 AM
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19. I would imagine that it is nm
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:34 AM
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21. Freepers response would be: "You lost, get over it" n/t
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