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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:10 PM
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Where is our righteous sanctimony? Has everyone forgotten The Rule of Law?
The meaning of 'is' in the wake of a blowjob got us a great deal of hand wringing from the right wing Rule of Law folks. It got a duly elected US president called, on the nation's airwaves, a scumbag by the dubiously moral Dan Burton. Bill 'Gambling Debt' Bennett asked again and again, in word and in print, 'where's the outrage'? The self-righteous sanctimony was shown up for the lie it was in the antics of Newt Gingrich and his short lived successor, Bob Livingston. Pornographer and muckraker extraordinaire Larry Flynt showed them the fear of god as he offered a million bux for info on *their* indiscretions. Hank Hyde ... well .... hid.

All that for a blowjob.

Now we have federal judge who has determined that George W. Bush, fraudulent squatter in the national mansion, has committed numerous felonies. Not a lie about a blowjob. Felonies for violations of the very Constitution he swore to protect and defend.

Why are our people not saying it in this very way? Why are WE not picking a fight with them? Why are we not everywhere saying that George W. Bush, the man-child who is the front man for a felonious cabal that has stolen our government, faces, quite literally, as much as a thousand years in federal prison for the crimes he has now been found to have committed?

PICK THE FIGHT, people. PICK THE FIGHT with them NOW.

It is ALL about that sacred "Rule of Law".

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:40 PM
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1. WELL SAID AND I THANK YOU!!
COULD NOT SAY IT BETTER MYSELF!!

thank you sincerely!!

fly
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:44 PM
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3. and let us remember the oath * took..
United States Constitution

Article II

Section 1. last paragraph

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:19 PM
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7. rule of law..the reason that the FISA law was put into law
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 01:20 PM by flyarm
was because of the same abuse of power, with the same republican cast of characters..WHO thought our right to privacy as Americans didn't matter..well now the same cast of republican characters once again are shitting on our Constitution and our Rights ..our god given rights..

AND AGAIN WE ARE ATTACKED BY THE SAME PEOPLE who want a consolidation of power at all our peril..

-we must be vigilant of our constitution..it is an "idea" and it is fragile..and it's attack by abusive dictator types will always be the force trying to destroy it..

-when little lord pissy pants says..people who view the law, like the judge views it, are just naive...

-may i awaken you pissy pants, i am not naive..i believe in the rule of law, and i hold you accountable for trying to destroy my constitution, and the rule of law my nation was built on!

-i hold you pissy pants ACCOUNTABLE for trying to subvert my constitution

and as for naive pissy pants , i believe anyone AND EVERYONE who believes, any more of your bullshit and lies... are not JUST naive..they are bold faced idiots and are also treasonable to our constitution!

Cheney and Rumsfeld tried this shit once before ..and it failed then and will fail again..they have underestimated the will of the American people ..and those who fought for the Constitution ..in uniform ..unlike ...these bastards who think they can use their ideology to destroy this nation and her laws...her rule of laws..

WE MUST ALL STAND UP FOR OUR COnSTITUTION AND OUR BILL OF RIGHTS..AND SEND THESE MOTHER FUCKERS TO A CELL WITH SHACKLES.. FOR THE TREASON THEY HAVE COMMITTED ON THIS NATION! AND WE MUST STAND UP AGAINST THE MOTHER FUCKERS WHO BUY INTO THIS BULLSHIT..AND WE MUST GET IN THEIR FACES AND SHUT THEM THE HELL UP..THEY ARE A MINORITY..A VERY SMALL MINORITY

enough is enough!

FLY
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:43 PM
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2. I totally second that. Wear Dem t-shirts whenever possible.
Today I had on my DU t-shirt with the Gore / Bush election numbers. Three people came up and told me they loved my shirt. My car has several bumper stickers. We need to work this 24/7 until the Pugs are gone.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:48 PM
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4. Well, that's the difference right there.
No one thinks that Bush enjoys violating the Constitution; they think he's doing it for their own good.

Petty moralists are common. People who even understand constitutional rights are increasingly rare.

The "rule of law" was always a red herring in the rightist discourse. Not even the people saying it, knew what it meant.

Being spied on produces in emotional reaction in some... but far fewer than adultery does. Sex sells, both positively and negatively.

I understand your frustration but no, violations of constitutional law will never provoke the frenzy that oral sex does--I'm sorry to report.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:54 PM
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5. I like how they are attacking her legal arguments
not the fact that it is unconstitutional, and continues to be unconstitutional, then they start
up with she's a Carter appointee, I never remember a judgment being discussed which includes
the judge's age, race and party affiliation before this. It is a new low even for the
Ken Mehlman and the RNC and the mainstream media. They are trying to make the law flexible.

This is a snip from a Karl Rove speech:

This important debate will decide whether we treat the Constitution as the governing charter of our nation - or whether we will treat it as if it is made of hot wax: pliable, inconstant, and easily changed. It will determine whether issues of enormous public importance will be decided by the American people and their elected representatives - or by nine lawyers in robes.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59540
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:14 PM
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6. I've posted this quotation before
and I'll do it again because this woman nails what we all are trying to say with an incredibly succinct one liner. . .

"America, those who now control our country have changed and ended law."

-Eve Ensler

(pm me if you missed and want the whole article quilled in May it is so profoundly eloquent)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:32 PM
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8. and my favorite quote about a US President...
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 01:33 PM by flyarm
“The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.”

“Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star”, 149
May 7, 1918


fly
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:16 PM
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9. I was unaware of that particular quotation until
Gary Trudeau posted it a few years ago. Then I looked it up.

I agree with you. It's a keeper. Not at all too shabby for a puke. My how times have changed.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:57 PM
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10. I think Teddy was a Bull Moose by then. Wasn't it in 1912 ....
... when he bolted to lead the Bull Moose Party after a screwed up Republican primary?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:51 PM
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11. THE PRESIDENT BROKE THE LAW. Period.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:31 PM
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12. Our "new aristocracy", or "neo-aristocracy" desires total dominion
I am loathe to write this, but the time for picking the fight civilly may be past. There is soap that will cleanse the filth our corporate pols represent, but you'll have to get yourself lathered up good in the process, n'est ce pas?

NoFederales
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:20 PM
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13. Man ... I've been calling for less than civil debate for a LONG time
I want metaphorical switchblades and metaphorical brass knuckes and metaphorical zip guns.

No nice gentemanly shit. Kick 'em in thier metaphorical gonads.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:08 PM
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14. Bravo! Brilliant! Brevity is the soul of wit eh. nt
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:20 PM
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15. It doesn't matter one iota ...
Listening to C-Span this morning, they did a bit on Clinton's 60th birthday, and of course, every freakin republican who called did the hate thing ... One of them, in all his glorious sanctimoneousness, went on about this very thing, the whole "rule of law" meme about the testimony ...

I thought the same way you did in this post, Good god, I would like to lay out all the crap that this crew has done the last 6 years and lay it out in the rule of law standard ... Then, I realized the crap I would get back ... War on Terror ... Threat unlike any we have known ...

Fact is ... EVERY gall darn thing these freaks went on about in the 90s, this crew has done in spades, and they find some banal way to excuse or mock it ...

They railed on ethics, and this is the most corrupt white house/congress we have known ...
They railed on spending, this is the most out of control spending our country has ever known ...
They railed on big govenment, this is the biggest the government we have know ...
They railed on nation building ... Iraq ...
They railed on states rights ... They are installing a unitary presidency and have stepped all over states rights ...
They railed on the sacredness of the constitution ... They have taken a total dump on it ...

AND, again, they just excuse it because of Iraq, minimalize it, rationalize it ... Or make fun of it ...

Freaks ...
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