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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:17 PM
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A few questions regarding this Lieberman business
I Joe ran as an independant, who would vote for him? Would it mostly be Reagan Democrats? I can't see an indie bid by Lieberman splitting party votes in a state like CT. Reminds me of Democrats complaing about Greens running in elections that normally go uncontested here in MA.

I am also curious at to what are the concerns of CT voters that Lieberman appeals to?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:19 PM
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1. Lieberman appeals to the corrupt, corporate, war-making class.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:20 PM
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2. Democrats who still believe the war in Iraq is winnable?
There are plenty of people who don't like the way things are going over there in Iraq, but that does not mean those same people necessarily believe the war is lost yet. Wait a few more years, and we'll revisit the question when the occupation enters years 6, 7, 8...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:23 PM
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3. I think he could pickup lots of repug votes....after all he stands behind
bush 98% of the time and they might like his social policies..
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:33 PM
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4. Lieberman gets a lot of publicity on things like the New London
Naval base, etc. He cashes in on that because people believe he saved jobs in CT. The sub base in Groton for example. I love that we still have these facilities in New England because I don't want them all to go South, literally speaking. But Joe just steps up and takes the credit. Who knows if that is true?

As a CT voter, I have NO concerns that Lieberman appeals to. He has betrayed the women of CT big time with his cruelly insensitive remark about the "short ride" to another hospital if a Catholic hospital won't give a rape victim Emergency Contraception. And why the hell did he think he had an opinion in a state legislative matter to begin with? Who asked for his opinion? (Where the hell was Haddasah?).

I am worried about who would vote for Joe among the INdies. That's the big nut for Lamont to crack, in my opinion. But I think he has a BIG issue with the war with Indies in the state. We have a lot of smart people in CT. They are mostly not fundies, so that issue is not that big. Many are here to make their pile, so to speak, so they are looking at the Main Chance.

But a lot of others are very idealistic progressives, like me, and we want change and won't stand for Lieberman any more.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:38 PM
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5. Indies?
Are you talking about Green Party Voters or the ones that flip flop between Republicans and Democrats?

One point that I am curious about is the DU reaction to a third party challenger to Lieberman. Personally I don't have a problem with third parties as I think they put ideas and issues on the table that both parties tend to ignore. But traditionally it seems a lot of Dems on this board are concerned about a vote split.

Would these same Dems care about a Vote split if it was a third party challenging Lieberman?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:04 PM
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7. In CT, here's my guess
Indies are people who either consider themselves independent thinkers and won't adhere to a "party philosphy" on either side. OR, they are from one party or the other who feel deserted by their former party but can't bring themselves to align themselves to the other party.

Because we have a real chance in the Dem party in CT to challenge a guy like Joe, we take the route of party politics. Which is exactly what Ned did and he got enough votes in the party to go to a primary. In states where that is not possible, I can understand a different approach (3rd party).

What Joe is doing (if he does do it) is to take his marbles and go home, basically. If he goes to a 3rd party he is saying he just doesn't like his party any more so he'll just run as an Independent because, basically, he "deserves" it and anything he does to secure his slot justifies his shift of party. Screw you, Connecticut Democrats!

Well, you know what? We Connecticut Democrats don't like it!! Does that surprise you?

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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:01 PM
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6. Independents and Repubs are about 60% of the CT electorate
Lieberman could get most of the independents, a large amount of the Rs and a small number of Dems and still win comfortably.
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