B*sh and his Congressional leaders are NOT Republicans...

[annabanana]

We have to call them out. We have to let people who would rather string themselves up than vote "Democrat" that they have to join us in opposing this profoundly UnAmerican administration.

Face it. Many of these die-hards are so strongly self-identified as "Republicans" that they will discount anything and everything we say as just so much partisan posturing.

We can free them by pointing out, over and over, that their Party has been hijacked. It isn't hard to point to starkly "un-Republican" policies that they have pushed, and pushed hard. We have to let them know that it isn't "Dem vs. Repub.."

It's Americans vs Anti-Americans.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

1. I couldn't agree with you more. Today we went beyond politics.

[Donna Zen]

13. Exactly

I'm trying to figure out who the real Americans are. And I don't mean to steal a republican crappy meme, but when people discard the Constitution, ya gotta wonder.

[Virginia Dare]

2. There is an element of people out there...

who consider themselves "conservative" but not Republican, those are the people that the Democrats need to try and win over. The Democrats need to adopt a more fiscally conservative agenda than the Republicans, and I think they will win broad appeal. It won't be very hard to achieve considering that the Republicans now in power are spending money like drunken sailors on 48 hour leave.

[annabanana]

4. We are already getting them.

They are the ones who are paying attention. I'm talking about the semi-somnambulist, the "Republican because my people have always been Republican" people.

[izzie]

3. Well they sure are odd Americans.

Like what happened to checks and balances some thing we all learned about. I think it was John Adams that said we could not trust Gov. so must always have this checks and balance and Bush does not seem to have heard about it at all. I grew up in a family where every one was a Republican and I swear they would not know the party that is using that name now.My family loved low taxes and they were working when that rate was up in the well over 50 percent but even they knew that you had to have sewer systems, roads etc and some one had to pay for them and they were needed in a society like ours. Rich men in town just do not put those things in.The whole town does it.They also knew debt and war were wastes of good money.

[annabanana]

5. Exactly! The semi-conscious remember "checks & balance"s

from grade school. They remember them as a "good thing".. We have to capitalize on that.

[ThomWV]

6. So, are you urging them NOT to vote at all?

[annabanana]

8. If we're not going to get them to come over...

than yes!

[mrcheerful]

7. This shrub admin is pure 100% Hoover republican

the repuke party was a big supporter of fascism from its conception. You are confusing the Lincoln republicans with the modern repukes. The last republican like Lincoln was T. Roosevelt who ended up leaving the puke party because of changes he saw in their policies and beliefs. To think republicans and Conservatives aren't in lock step behind shrub is crazy and your ignoring facts and history by thinking theres any difference is between Hoover and every republican since Hoover. They have been the party of lies and smoke screens my whole life time, Shrub is just another Nixon,Reagan type puke. What shrub is doing has been the puke plan from Hoovers time, the agenda hasn't changed one iota in the years between Hoover and shrub.

[annabanana]

9. The trick is..

That large numbers of people who casually self-identify as Republican, do not actually agree with this hooverian aspect of the party. I am not talking about the rabid racists and committed xenophobes, I am talking about the vast numbers who only pay attention during the last stretch of an election season...Who find political talk "boring" on the whole.

[mrcheerful]

10. Those are the half wits that want sound bites and not answers.

They are the ones who have the attention span of 3 year olds and if someone talks for more then 3 minutes they turn it off. Sadly these are the ones who helped put Nixon, Reagan and both shrubs into power. Its not that dems don't have a message, its that dems can't put answers into sound bites.

[annabanana]

11. exactly my point!

"these are the ones who helped put Nixon, Reagan and both shrubs into power"

and here is the "soundbite":

The B*sh Administration AREN'T REPUBICANS.. they are hijackers.

[mrcheerful]

12. Ohhhhhhhh ok I get it now they aren't Lincoln republicans, thats how I

see the republican party, pre Hoover and pro Hoover. When I say the r word thats the way I mean it. Hoover republicans see the US as being for the rich of the rich and by the rich, everyone not rich are second class citizens that should accept their position as peons. If you look into Reagan speech's you can see how Reagan was saying what Hoover said 60 years before, Reagan speech writers were just good at word changing.