PRWEB: Former CIA Presidential Briefer Speaks Truth to Power!!!

[Harper_is_Bush]

Former CIA Presidential Briefer Speaks Truth to Power, Makes His Case in Recently Published Collection of Essays on War in Iraq

Ray McGovern, a CIA veteran of 27 years, recently (and successfully) challenged the Secretary of Defense on the misrepresentation of intelligence used to get the US into Iraq. McGovern's complete argument is available in a comprehensive essay contained in a groundbreaking new collection on the war released just last year and due out in paperback this fall.

Washington, DC (PRWEB) May 6, 2006 -- On May 4, 2006, Ray McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the CIA and former briefer of President George H. W. Bush, asked Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld why he "lied" to get us into a war in Iraq.

Though Rumsfeld asserted that he "did not lie," McGovern insisted that the Secretary said he "knew where the WMD were." Rumsfeld denied making that statement, but McGovern had at hand a direct quote from the Secretary indicating that Rumsfeld said precisely that.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb382363.htm

Go here for link to Ray McGovern thankyou site and VIDEOS:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=28005&mesg_id=28005

Thanks Ray!

[quickesst]

1. New, just asking...

If all threads concerning 9/11 consiracy are relegated to the dungeon, and since Ray McGovern endorses fully David Ray Griffins systematic dismantling of the "official" 9/11 commission, could someone please explain to me why McGovern would be welcomed in this forum on one issue he believes in, but relegated to the "out of sight nut" dungeon if he were to make a public statement on what he beleives about those events. The endorsement of the Griffin book, in my mind, IS a public disclosure. I just don't understand why one person should be trusted and trumpeted on the front page here, but would quickly be dismissed by the mods here if it were a 9/11 ct topic. I don't see how any rational person can embrace an individual's view on one thing, then summarily dismiss the same person on another. Help me out with the logic here please. Thanks.
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[Harper_is_Bush]

2. Go watch the video and then tell me what you think...

I think that answers why Ray McGovern is given respect.

[quickesst]

3. Harper_is_Bush....

I believe you missed the point of my post. Please read again. I am not disrespectful of McGovern. I am an admirer of his courage in speaking out. The point I am making is pretty clear. The issue is double standards in what DU will accept as worthy of the main forums by respected people, Ray McGovern being one, but on the other hand, if I started a thread reading: "Ray McGovern Endorsed 9/11 conspiracy book, (David Ray Griffin)that thread would be rocketed to the dungeon before you can blink an eye. My question again, why laud and show respect for one view of a person,(WHO I ADMIRE AND RESPECT) but dismiss as "crazy" that same person on another subject? I can't meke it any clearer than that. It's not that difficult. Thanks.
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[xchrom]

5. i don't know what you're talking about, frankly.

if you've been for a while -- you'ld know that a variety of some pretty strange stuff has caught on fire.

so you are expressing an opinion of 1.

[quickesst]

6. I believe....

the title of my first post indicates clearly that I am rather new here. My admiration of McGovern is an opinion. My inqiry is just that. I could even include DUers in this inquiry. Some members write opinions in this forum that are taken seriously, and are respected by the majority. On the other hand, if those same individual express any doubts at all as to the events of 9/11, and how it occurred, they are quickly shuffled out of sight of the uninformed and non-member public. I really did not think my post would be that difficult here. Thanks.
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[Harper_is_Bush]

7. It is not the person, but rather the topic.

You ask why McGovern would not be relaged to a "dungeon" topic area because he endorsed another persons work which concerns the topic of 9/11 and conspiracies connected to the commision or the events.

It is a bizarre question. You seem to wonder why DU does not engage in fascist tactics against individuals for their past opinions or endorsements. You're new here, as you say, and you've obviously got a lot to learn about the integrity of this place.

9/11 related threads were placed in a sub-area - I believe - because there were too many of them and they tended to be easily turned into flame-wars. If I was posting about a 9/11 conspiracy I would understand it being moved, but I'm not. I'm posting about Ray McGovern and his confrontation with Rummy about his lies.

There is no "double standard" in that. Like you, I cannot make it any clearer than that. It's not that difficult. Thanks.

[Stanchetalarooni]

4. Perhaps the truth is too much for even DU to handle.

It's one thing acknowledge that weird Uncle is a murderer and a rapist and a liar.
It is quite another to come to grips with the idea that Papa and Grandpapa and Great Grandpapa and even Granny have had a hand in the most horrid of crimes.

[Harper_is_Bush]

8. When you find out the truth please be sure to let us know. n/t

[Stanchetalarooni]

9. The truth is....

People eat pigs and pigs eat people.