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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:40 PM
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Ted's Eulogy for His Brother
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 10:49 PM by Steely_Dan
After seeing Ted Kennedy on The Daily Show...I searched the Internet to find a recording of his eulogy of RFK. It had been a long time...
At the end...the last lines of his eulogy brought me to tears. How this world would have been different had Bobby lived. If you haven't heard
the eulogy in a while, go to http://www.jfklibrary.net/e060868.htm.

-P

----

I'm sorry, I just can't stop sobbing. It hurts too much. Hearing Ted tonight talk about optimism...about the future. Then hearing his voice break near the end of the eulogy... It's all too sad. Perhaps because of what we have become.

-P
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:42 PM
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1. Ok. Now I'm responding to this one,
so I can find it tomorrow!

I've got to get to bed.

Thanks for digging this up. I think I might forward it to my dad and his brother who fight over politics all the time (but my dad is one of the good guys! My uncle went to the dark side about 2 decades ago).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:42 PM
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2. babylonsister thinks Steely_Dan rocks! Thank you! nt
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:42 PM
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3. too funny!
I've got "Peg" in my head right now but now I'm starting to hear "shake it"!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:53 PM
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6. It's a good thing!
I've been here for awhile, and I can't tell you how many people brought that up.
Ironically, I wasn't a major SD fan, but I am now! :)
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:58 PM
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7. OMG....Another Fan!
Listen to the lyrics.

The only "band" in the world that makes "happy music" combined with dark social-sexual cynicism.

Love it!

Shake it baby...

"That shade is the shape where I used to stand..."

-P
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:44 PM
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4. Kicked and recommended!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:44 PM
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5. I watched it on TV
I had just come back to the US after living abroad for a few years.

You cannot imagine how horrible it all was. His breaking voice. This was only five years after JFK's assassination, only a couple of months after Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination. It was such a time. It was such a bad time.

Then, the train that carried Bobby's body to DC, and his sons greeting people as the train went through small towns.

I don't ever want to see anything like that again.

Ever been to Bobby's grave at Arlington? It's off to the side of his brother's, and it's just a small simple marker. Quite lovely.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:03 PM
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10. The day America died.
JFK's murder was the turning point -- the beginning of the end. MLK's assasination left us with only the hope that Bobby would rescue America from the void -- and he came so close. Since then, the promise of this country has been hollowed out and the essence of America wrung dry.

Eisenhower warned us. JFK died for trying to put us back on course. Bobby was killed before he could even make the attempt.

The loss still hurts so much because what we lost was our country.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:42 AM
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19. Agreed
All those murders at that time. It seems that the powers that be saw a sea change coming and decided it couldn't happen.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:37 AM
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14. I was shocked at how simple the graves were
I think they would like that, though.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:59 PM
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8. Another powerful speech
At the end of his run for the presidency -- "Hope goes on. The dream will never die." It makes me cry every time.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:00 PM
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9. I just picked The Enemy Within off my bookshelf
RFK autographed this copy twice for my father. One of the inscrpitions reads:

"To Bob, Things aren't always as black as they seem. Robert Kennedy"

I'm going to take the book with me when RFK Jr is in town next month. Maybe he'd sign it for me.

And Ted was fiery tonight on Stewart, gives one some hope.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:46 PM
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11. (((((HOPE)))))
"These men moved the world, and so can we all. Few will have the greatness to bend history itself, but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation. It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.

My dad sat in front of the TV and just cried. I remember that day as if it were yesterday.:cry:

We need to share this with others who haven't heard the call. It is time.

Peace.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:20 AM
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12. I was 11 when
...my father took me to hear President Kennedy speak at UC Berkeley.

Senator Robert F. Kennedy was a great and exciting hope for our country. His loss is beyond words to me to this day.

A picture of March 1962 when I listened to President Kennedy speak to us:

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:29 AM
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13. I was about 7 when JFK died; his brother was a bit more fuzzy
in my life.
Thanks for the memories! :toast:
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:27 AM
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16. Wow, what a beautiful picture.
How wonderful that must have been.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:05 AM
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15. Ted made the rounds yesterday
I heard him on Fresh Air, NPR, in the afternoon. Then he was on Larry King, but I missed the Daily Show.

Thanks to all, for the memories about JFK. I was 14 when he died, a very sad time.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:49 AM
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17. I have the record of the RFK Memorial service
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 08:24 AM by LynneSin
While shopping for Vinyl LPs I found a copy of that - it has all the speakers at his memorial

http://cgi.ebay.com/NM-ROBERT-F-KENNEDY-Memorial-record-album-1968-RFK_W0QQitemZ4860356019QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem

BTW, this is the album I have - although this is not my item on ebay

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:21 AM
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18. Timeless, always relevant
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 08:25 AM by OzarkDem
It doesn't seem that long ago.

RFK represented what we should all strive to achieve as Dems.


Your Eminences, Your Excellencies, Mr. President:

On behalf of Mrs. Kennedy, her children, the parents and sisters of Robert Kennedy, I want to express what we feel to those who mourn with us today in this Cathedral and around the world.

We loved him as a brother, and as a father, and as a son. From his parents, and from his older brothers and sisters -- Joe and Kathleen and Jack -- he received an inspiration which he passed on to all of us. He gave us strength in time of trouble, wisdom in time of uncertainty, and sharing in time of happiness. He will always be by our side.

Love is not an easy feeling to put into words. Nor is loyalty, or trust, or joy. But he was all of these. He loved life completely and he lived it intensely.

A few years back, Robert Kennedy wrote some words about his own father which expresses the way we in his family felt about him. He said of what his father meant to him, and I quote: "What it really all adds up to is love -- not love as it is described with such facility in popular magazines, but the kind of love that is affection and respect, order and encouragement, and support. Our awareness of this was an incalculable source of strength, and because real love is something unselfish and involves sacrifice and giving, we could not help but profit from it." And he continued, "Beneath it all, he has tried to engender a social conscience. There were wrongs which needed attention. There were people who were poor and needed help. And we have a responsibility to them and to this country. Through no virtues and accomplishments of our own, we have been fortunate enough to be born in the United States under the most comfortable conditions. We, therefore, have a responsibility to others who are less well off."

That is what Robert Kennedy was given. What he leaves to us is what he said, what he did, and what he stood for. A speech he made to the young people of South Africa on their Day of Affirmation in 1966 sums it up the best, and I would like to read it now:

"There is discrimination in this world and slavery and slaughter and starvation. Governments repress their people; millions are trapped in poverty while the nation grows rich and wealth is lavished on armaments everywhere. These are differing evils, but they are the common works of man. They reflect the imperfection of human justice, the inadequacy of human compassion, our lack of sensibility towards the suffering of our fellows. But we can perhaps remember -- even if only for a time -- that those who live with us are our brothers; that they share with us the same short moment of life; that they seek -- as we do -- nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can.

Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common goal, can begin to teach us something. Surely, we can learn, at least, to look at those around us as fellow men. And surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us and to become in our own hearts brothers and countrymen once again. The answer is to rely on youth -- not a time of life but a state of mind, a temper of the will, a quality of imagination, a predominance of courage over timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the love of ease. The cruelties and obstacles of this swiftly changing planet will not yield to the obsolete dogmas and outworn slogans. They cannot be moved by those who cling to a present that is already dying, who prefer the illusion of security to the excitement and danger that come with even the most peaceful progress.

It is a revolutionary world we live in, and this generation at home and around the world has had thrust upon it a greater burden of responsibility than any generation that has ever lived. Some believe there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills. Yet many of the world's great movements, of thought and action, have flowed from the work of a single man. A young monk began the Protestant reformation; a young general extended an empire from Macedonia to the borders of the earth; a young woman reclaimed the territory of France; and it was a young Italian explorer who discovered the New World, and the 32 year-old Thomas Jefferson who claimed that "all men are created equal."

These men moved the world, and so can we all. Few will have the greatness to bend history itself, but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation. *It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped.* Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.

Few are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. And I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the moral conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the globe.

For the fortunate among us, there is the temptation to follow the easy and familiar paths of personal ambition and financial success so grandly spread before those who enjoy the privilege of education. But that is not the road history has marked out for us. Like it or not, we live in times of danger and uncertainty. But they are also more open to the creative energy of men than any other time in history. All of us will ultimately be judged, and as the years pass we will surely judge ourselves on the effort we have contributed to building a new world society and the extent to which our ideals and goals have shaped that event.

*The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of new ideas and bold projects. Rather it will belong to those who can blend vision, reason and courage in a personal commitment to the ideals and great enterprises of American Society.* Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control. It is the shaping impulse of America that neither fate nor nature nor the irresistible tides of history, but the work of our own hands, matched to reason and principle, that will determine our destiny. There is pride in that, even arrogance, but there is also experience and truth. In any event, it is the only way we can live."

That is the way he lived. That is what he leaves us.

My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

"Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not."

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