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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:28 PM
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Harry Taylor almost exactly matches character in Norman Rockwell painting.
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 10:41 PM by zapp
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:29 PM
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1. well... except for the faces in the crowd that is
freaking Bushbotnics :puke:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:31 PM
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4. I noticed that too
"uncreened audience"? Yeah, I believe THAT...
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 06:52 AM
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67. Kos linked to a Thank You Harry site. I tried to sign and leave comments
but got message that I couldn't "Change Headers"???? Didn't try to change headers or use any HTML,when I tried to send it again, got message "You already said that"???

Oh Well, maybe other DUers will have more luck and there are 1301 interesting comments and the Kos article said they hoped to have 1 million Americans thanking Harry for standing up and speaking the truth to Bush which takes a lot of courage these days.

http://www.thankyouharrytaylor.org/wordpress/

'In my lifetime, I have never felt more ashamed of my leadership in Washington,” Taylor told the president. “And I would hope from time to time that you have the humility and grace to be ashamed of yourself.”'
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:30 PM
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2. That is pretty cool!
Amazing, thanks.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:31 PM
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3. That is uncanny! n/t
K&R
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:37 PM
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13. Uncanny was just the word I was going to use!
It's like Rockwell was there. :wow:
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:18 PM
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20. Rockwell worked from models
What if . . . there was a genetic relationship?

The karma's flying fast and furious these days!


Liberal Talk With A Southern Exposure!
www.whiterosesociety.org/Kincaid.html
www.headonradio.com
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:31 PM
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24. Interesting observation... Very possible... let me look into this..
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:45 PM
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25. Model Was Carl Hess- Arlington Vermont
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:35 AM
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65. Thanks for looking it up.
Harry would have been just what Rockwell was looking for. The article says with Hess "True to form, Rockwell idealized Hess a bit, trimming him of about 100 pounds."

So Harry Looks like Rockwell's idealized version of Hess more then he does Hess.

I enjoyed seeing him on CNN, indeed comes across as a noble Rockwell character. I hope we can hear more from him. Simple, intelligent, clear and direct.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:59 AM
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36. My word exactly. Uncanny. n/t
n/t
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:32 PM
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5. I like that.
Thanks.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:32 PM
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6. God bless Harry Taylor
he's doomed, of course.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:23 PM
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22. Why?
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 11:23 PM by AuntiBush
There are plenty of people standing-up and have not been doomed. That kinda of statement might scare people to not do as Mr. Harry Taylor did.

Freedom of Speech till they pry it from us literally :kick:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:32 PM
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7. Harry Taylor almost exactly matches character in Normal Rockwell painting.
Sorry, you need to be more descriptive in your message header- I almost didn't click the link. I had no idea if the thread was about politics or polar bears.

See here:



AMAZING!

PB
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:36 PM
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11. Thanks.... you are right!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:57 AM
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28. Here's the inevitable photoshop
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:10 AM
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29. Great job to whomever did that! n/t
PB
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:12 AM
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30. Thanks. I made it.
. . . wiff my own li'l computer here. :)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:59 AM
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42. Even so - Great Catch! Kudos to you for passing it along. :-) n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:10 PM
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53. That lady next to him is just shitting her panties
It is a wonder she didn't push him off the balcony
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:25 PM
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58. And the one next to
her is giving that "if looks could kill" look!
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:36 PM
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59. Same pleated pants, same bannister, wild!
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:33 PM
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8. You're right
Amazing! Mr.Taylor was wonderful.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:33 PM
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9. Wow!! K&R
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:35 PM
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10. that is trippy....
eom
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:36 PM
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12. K & R
That's awesome!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:37 PM
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14. that's amazing...you,go-Harry!
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:39 PM
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15. Nice catch!
kickin' and recommending
:kick:
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:43 PM
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18. ty...I was there in Charlotte
But not inside and when I saw the pic it didnt register at first.... but i kept looking at it and it dawned on me...WHOA.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:41 PM
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16. oh hell yes!
K&R

:dem:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:42 PM
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17. K&R
And blogged around.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:36 AM
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27. Benburch...do you have the video?
I must admit I also wondered if that guy was a plant...but I also heard on AA that the soundbite we heard was edited by CNN.
Thanks for your excellent work today!
K&R
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:51 PM
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19. how perceptive and psychic !
It does resemble that character!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:20 PM
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21. A Hero and it does match, exactly...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 11:21 PM by AuntiBush
interesting, that the web site author notes he could have been a plant.

That's a tough call. Watched this man today and he was just too full of sincerity, integrity, compassion and one could feel his heart just breaking.

A plant would not have had those qualities.
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:30 PM
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23. That was a comment to my original post
I don't agree with that assessment...

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drowninginjello Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:26 AM
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38. Wrong
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 10:52 AM by drowninginjello
I had put a statement here, and it was wrong.

It appears that Harry Taylor is a member of Moveon.

'Nuf said.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:53 PM
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49. "Harry Taylor is a member of Moveon. 'Nuf said." So am I
and thousands of others. What do you mean by the "'nuf said" comment?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:57 PM
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26. info on Harry Taylor that may interest you
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:59 AM
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31. Sad that the rest of the article goes on to quote a Bushbot only. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:06 AM
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32. THE greatest Rockwell painting (IMHO) + check out the looks in the pic
very funny
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:24 AM
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33. oh, my.... thanks
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:38 AM
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34. Wow, another reason to think it was staged.
:tinfoilhat: We know how the Booshies love to rip off Americana.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:41 AM
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35. Woman w/ Pink Corsage....whistling dixie?
What is that woman doing?
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:40 AM
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39. She's saying....
"OOOOOOOooooooooooo.....He just said something rude to our Preznit! Think I'll report him to the IRS."
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:49 PM
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48. Booing is my guess
Like a good little fanatic
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drowninginjello Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:20 AM
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37. Unscreened audiences my ass!!
Obviously, anyone who really believes that old song-n-dance and the smoke-n-mirrors that Rove worked to develop for that little show isn't as sincere about Bush getting his genocidal ass frogmarched down the front steps of the white house.

Another thought: Can the UN take action against our president the same way they are working on a resolution against Iran?

Just thinking what a beautiful day it would be if Bush and his cabinet were arrested by a UN black ops team somewhere in the middle of the night, LOL!
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:42 AM
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40. Straight to the Hague
Well, there's another bunk open in the Hague. Actually, I wanted to see Bush and Slobodan in adjoining cells.
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drowninginjello Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:54 AM
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41. With Sodamn Insane in the cell next to them!
They could swap girly pics, makeup secrets, and tell tall tales of intelligible political subjects...

YEAH RIGHT!!!!
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DemMother Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:24 AM
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44. They look like the pod creatures in Invasion of the Body Snatchers
n/t
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:19 AM
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43. The Witch (here on DU) nailed it!! Big time
From the OP by TheWitch

I'm gonna come out and say it: I think Harry Taylor was a plant.
There's a number of linguistic and other clues that his question of the president was previously thought out and memorized, and there are a number of choices that make me think this was not written by someone who is truly upset with the presidency.

Let's go to the transcript, boys and girls.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x867155
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:30 AM
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45. What convinced me was how articulate * was in response
Like he'd been practicing it for weeks.

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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:55 PM
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50. There's also the possibility
that he could have just memorized what he was going to say. Whenever I'm in a situation like that (Q&A, I mean, never been to a Bush "event") I either write down what I want to say or memorize it.

I don't think he was a plant because of how Bush handled it either, unless his handlers are really slipping (yeah, I know, but bear with me). If they wanted Bush to respond to a criticism--a "look, he's answering actual questions/dissent! What's your problem, hippie?!" type thing--this was absolutely not the effective way to do it. They want to neutralize the opposition by making us look like fanatical borderline-crazy people. Having a seemingly thoughtful, quiet man in a sweater calmly express outrage is not the way to do it. Bush and his handlers are ignorant of a lot of things, but they know PR.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:49 PM
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51. Unseen Forces Working on our Behalf
They want to neutralize the opposition by making us look like fanatical borderline-crazy people. Having a seemingly thoughtful, quiet man in a sweater calmly express outrage is not the way to do it. Bush and his handlers are ignorant of a lot of things, but they know PR.

Funny you should mention this. I teach a course in "social movements and advocacy" and last night I was teaching my class about communication and the image one wants to project when speaking to a public body like a town council.

I told them to appear reasonable, calm, logical, and organized. Avoid any appearance of "fringe."

This is just an absolutely awesome development. Forces (not our "leaders") are working on our behalf.




Cher
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:53 PM
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63. No.
Don't know which clip you saw, but the chimp looked like he wanted to commit murder and could just barely restrain himself. By the time Harry was finished, you could have fried an egg with the steam coming out of his ears.

I doubt he would have had that reaction if it was a plant.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:40 AM
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46. Wow. That's one to save. Thanks.
Fantastic.
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Old Smokey Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:34 PM
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47. great stuff.
love that painting
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:56 PM
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52. Wow...just wow
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:24 PM
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54. Harry Taylor
anybody have his email address? I want to thank the guy---ok he wasn't forceful enough but he did a hell of a lot more than I have done to confront the American Hitler.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:49 PM
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55. Freakin' AMAZING!
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:32 PM
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56. "Speak softly..."
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:01 PM
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57. kick n/t
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GreenInNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:58 PM
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60. HARRY IS LEGIT!
Harry is a friend of mine. He is a real estate broker here in Charlotte and a leader in our local MoveOn group. He is a member of the group that sponsored the visit and that is how he got the ticket.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:27 PM
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61. He seems to be Legit to the MAX I got this from MoveOn.org
Dear MoveOn member,

Together, we work hard to help real Americans change the way things work in Washington. And with the folks that are currently in power, it's an uphill battle. So it's gratifying when it happens—and this week, it happened twice.
Harry Taylor of Charlotte, NC, a MoveOn member and Operation Democracy leader, confronts President Bush at a town hall meeting


First, there's the budget. For weeks, we've been working to stop the Republicans' reverse-Robin Hood budget. On Wednesday, John Boehner (Tom DeLay's replacement in the House) vowed he would force it through.1 But last night, after even more members of his own party told him they were jumping ship, he threw in the towel and cancelled the vote. We woke up to read one of those headlines you love to see in the Washington Post, "GOP Budget Talks Collapse in the House".2

This was a come-from-behind victory for vital health care, education, and family services that millions of Americans depend on every day. So how did it happen? Simply put, unrelenting pressure from the grassroots proved stronger than the combined forces of corporate lobbyists, Republican leaders and the White House—and MoveOn members played a major role. In the last 3 weeks alone, you:

Organized 106 local media events at key congressional offices
Made over 8,000 phone calls to Congress in just 72 hours
Wrote over 10,000 personal letters to "swing vote" representatives
Mailed over 15,000 personal letters to fellow voters in a few critical districts—asking those voters to speak up on this vital issue
The budget event in Charlotte, North Carolina was led by a small business owner named Harry Taylor. Harry's a leader of his local "Operation Democracy" team. Operation Democracy is MoveOn's network of committed members who organize events to ensure that Congress and the media pay attention to what local folks have to say —but Harry took it to the next level.

As you know, President Bush often holds "town hall" events where he takes questions from a hand picked crowd of "real people." Yesterday one of the people was, well, real.

In a hostile room, with the attention of the national media focused on him, here's what Harry Taylor stood up and said to the President of the United States:

HARRY TAYLOR: You never stop talking about freedom, and I appreciate that. But while I listen to you talk about freedom, I see you assert your right to tap my telephone, to arrest me and hold me without charges, to try to preclude me from breathing clean air and drinking clean water and eating safe food. If I were a woman, you'd like to restrict my opportunity to make a choice and decision about whether I can abort a pregnancy on my own behalf. You are—

PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm not your favorite guy. Go ahead. (Laughter and applause.) Go on, what's your question?

HARRY TAYLOR: Okay, I don't have a question. What I wanted to say to you is that I—in my lifetime, I have never felt more ashamed of, nor more frightened by my leadership in Washington, including the presidency, by the Senate, and—

AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Booo!

PRESIDENT BUSH: No, wait a sec—let him speak.

HARRY TAYLOR: And I would hope—I feel like despite your rhetoric, that compassion and common sense have been left far behind during your administration, and I would hope from time to time that you have the humility and the grace to be ashamed of yourself inside yourself. And I also want to say I really appreciate the courtesy of allowing me to speak what I'm saying to you right now. That is part of what this country is about.

When we saw this story on the news, we checked to see if Harry was a MoveOn member. That's when we found out he was also the leader of an Operation Democracy team in Charlotte.

This is what MoveOn is all about—millions of us working together to bring the basic progressive values of fairness and decency back into American politics. Sometimes we make waves by the thousands, and sometimes we do it one at a time. But no matter what, we're all in this together.

If you're not already part of the Operation Democracy network, we'd love you to join the team. You can sign up online at:

http://political.moveon.org/opdem/?id=7281-6860481-3RO2wgNzY_7ij3_NI18QDA&t=3

Thanks, as always, for all that you do.

Ben, Nita, Natalie, Matt, Micayla, Marika, Justin, Tanya, Roy, Jennifer, Laura, Carrie, Joan, Rosalyn, Eli, Wes, Adam, and Tom—the Whole MoveOn.org Political Action Team

P.S. If you want to say thanks to Harry yourself, just go to http://thankyouharrytaylor.org

Sources:

1. "Boehner Says Budget Will Reach Floor This Week," Roll Call, April 5, 2006
http://political.moveon.org/boehner.html?id=7281-6860481-3RO2wgNzY_7ij3_NI18QDA&t=4

2. "GOP Budget Talks Collapse in the House," Washington Post, April 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=1624

Support our member-driven organization: MoveOn.org Political Action is entirely funded by our 3.3 million members. We have no corporate contributors, no foundation grants, no money from unions. Our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. If you'd like to support our work, you can give now at:

http://political.moveon.org/donate/email.html?id=7281-6860481-3RO2wgNzY_7ij3_NI18QDA&t=5


PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://political.moveon.org/?id=7281-6860481-3RO2wgNzY_7ij3_NI18QDA&t=6
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:23 PM
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64. Tell him "hello" from me
and thanks for speaking out. That took a lot of guts, good for him!

:hi:
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:11 PM
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62. I called it the night it aired
I told my wife that is fake..........the people booed, so, that had to be sooooo fake.


Fuck the liars
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:44 AM
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66. Sit DOWN Cinderella !!
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 06:55 AM
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68. The painting of Rockwell and the photo are Amazing... Thank you for
sharing that great catch. The wicked stepsisters is so funny. This should be an icon for protesters and I think it will be. Support all our whistleblowers. Sibyl Edmonds site with petition and interviews http://www.JustACitizen.com
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 01:18 PM
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69. Just heard him interviewed on Thom Hartmann's national show...
on 4/12/06 1:08 pm - 1:15 pm CST

He really does seem sincere. My hat's off to him.

Thom's show archives can be obntained at the www.whiterosesociety.com
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