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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:04 PM
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Three decades, same cast of crooks (Bush I, Cheney and spying)

Docs: Ford Admin. Debated Use of Wiretaps


By MARGARET EBRAHIM, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - An intense debate erupted during the Ford administration over the president's powers to eavesdrop without warrants to gather foreign intelligence, according to newly disclosed government documents. George H.W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney are cited in the documents.


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Some experts weren't surprised the cast of characters in this national debate remained largely unchanged over 30 years.

"People don't change their stripes," said Kenneth C. Bass a former senior Justice Department lawyer who oversaw such wiretap requests during the Carter administration.

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The documents include one startling similarity to Washington's current atmosphere over disclosures of classified information by the media. Notes from a 1975 meeting between Cheney, then White House chief of staff, then-Attorney General Edward Levi and others cite the "problem" of a New York Times article by Seymour Hersh about U.S. submarines spying inside Soviet waters. Participants considered a formal FBI investigation of Hersh and the Times and searching Hersh's apartment "to go after (his) papers," the document said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060204/ap_on_go_pr_wh/ford_era_spying_5




It's amazing how many ways they try to spin illegal into essential.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:06 PM
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1. Worthy of a K&R


Thanks for the post....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:27 PM
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2. 4.4 stars
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:26 PM
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3. K and R
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:31 PM
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4. But no oversight this time...
and no honorable repubs to get the ball rolling on justice
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:07 AM
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6. honorable repubs
:rofl: :rofl:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:23 AM
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5. K&R
Cheney and Rumsfeld have been plotting this in their basement hideout for decades. They finally got into an administration evil and corrupt enough not only to do it, but to brag about it.
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:48 AM
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7. Google Team B and Rumsfeld
or watch "Power of nightmares", a BBC docu. The wiretapping wasn't the only topic that never change...
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:24 AM
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8. SittingBull.. ^5 yes I watched Power of Nightmares and dumsey
said,"absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" that was 1976 regarding the Soviets "Super Secret Stealthy Submarine Program" rotf, he used that same bullshit regarding saddam and WMD's.. DU-ers are so observant. Team A reports no such animal..Team B reports we believe they do have such an animal...lol
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:26 AM
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9. From '73 with Nixon even; Nixon planned to seize oilfields....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2432151

And the wiretapping of MLK by military intelligence in addition to the FBI, that was '60s and by domestic MIGs nationwide. We're all in MLK's position now.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 03:32 PM
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10. Photos of the crooks from the 70s


Fri Feb 3, 7:32 PM ET
Presidential assistant Donald Rumsfeld, right, and his deputy Richard Cheney meet with reporters at the White House in Washington, D.C., in this Thursday, Nov. 7, 1975 file photo. Rumsfeld was named by President Ford to replace James Schlesinger as Secretary of Defense and Cheney was to replace Rumsfeld. Newly disclosed historic government documents obtained by the Associated Press include one with startling similarity to Washington's current atmosphere over disclosures of classified information by the media. Notes from a 1975 meeting between Dick Cheney, then Attorney General Edward Levi and others cite the 'problem' of a New York Times article by Seymour Hersh about U.S. submarines spying inside Soviet waters. (AP Photo)





Fri Feb 3, 7:29 PM ET
President Gerald Ford chats with recently named White House chief of staff Dick Cheney outside the White House in this Nov. 7, 1975 file photo. Newly disclosed historic documents obtained by the Associated Press show that an intense debate erupted during the Ford Administration over the president's powers to eavesdrop without warrants for foreign intelligence purposes. Senate Judiciary Committee hearings begin Monday, Feb. 6, 2006, over President Bush's authority to approve such wiretaps by the ultra-secretive National Security Agency without a judge's approval. (AP Photo/Bob Daugherty/File)

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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 11:47 AM
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11. If you fooled once, äh, you can't get fooled again



I hate these people. And I don't understand why always the good men were killed, but these assholes can work out their insane plans...
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 11:48 AM
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12. BTW:
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