Bernie Sanders Response to the SOTU Speech

[Armstead]

Short and sweet (or not so sweet, butdirect.)

http://bernie.house.gov/documents/document.asp?issueNum=4754

From his website:



1/31/2006, Statement of Congressman Sanders regarding:
STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN BERNIE SANDERS ON THE "STATE OF THE UNION”


I thought that what President Bush had to say about the need to break our dependency on Middle East oil and move to sustainable energy was absolutely right. I hope the budget he presents will be consistent with his remarks.

On the other hand, I strongly disagree with him when he states that our economy is "healthy and vigorous." Since President Bush has been in office, private sector job creation has been abysmal, median household income has declined, 5 million more Americans have slipped into poverty, the number of uninsured Americans has grown by 6 million and workers throughout the country are in danger of losing their pensions. Our trade deficit, our national debt and energy prices are at an all time high. I hope that, in the coming year, President Bush is prepared to re-think some of his policies and work in a bi-partisan way so that government works for all Americans, and not just wealthy special interests.

[Wind Dancer]

1. Bernie is one of the best!

I only wish we had more politicians that represented the people and not the corporations.

[Armstead]

2. Yep -- He tells it like it is with no BS or obfuscation

[cyberia]

3. I wonder why he's and independent, and not a Democrat

[Armstead]

5. He's always been independent

He ran and served as a self-identified independent socialist as Mayor of Burlington before moving to Congress.

[cyberia]

6. I know Bernie's history

My wife worked with him registering French-speaking Vermonters while he was Mayor. My remark was meant to point out that the Congressman with the most integrity and the most rapport with his constituents is not a Democrat. I think that should tell us something.

[Armstead]

8. I agree -- Someone like him should be able to feel at home as a Dem

The great thing about Bernie is that he doesn't the usual filters. Should be more Democrats like that.

I always loved watching him take on Alan Greenspan in the hearings in Congress. He just ripped into Greenspan's corporate CONservativgism in a way that all Dems should be doing.

[cyberia]

9. All Dems could be like Bernie

if they started acting like him. In particular, they would have to stop accepting bribes (campaign contributions) from corporate interests.

[MrBenchley]

23. LOL!

It's always hilarious to me to note that those people screaming that we have to purge people from the Democrats because they're not "progressive" enough NEVER demand that Bernie become a Democrat to help out the cause.

It's almost like some people have no clue about how politics and Congress actually work.

[Cascadian]

53. Bernie is his own man. If he does not want to be a Democrat...

then that's his choice. You seem to be the type who is more interested in labels than one's own conviction and character. This shows another problem with the Democrats and our whole political system today.


John

[MrBenchley]

62. Then fuck him.....

"This shows another problem with the Democrats and our whole political system today."
Namelyt, progressive purists who are clueless about the real world.

[Cascadian]

69. WHATEVER!

Just another arrogant comment! :eyes:


John

[Telly Savalas]

91. In the the real world, Bernie Sanders has a goddamn seat in the fucking

house, a feat that a majority of Democratic candidates failed at in the last election.

[Douglas Carpenter]

97. and he actually wins over Republicans and swing voters instead of talking

about it

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


link to his book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[Hippo_Tron]

81. In case you missed it on the other thread, I will explain this again

Bernie is an independent that caucuses with the democrats. He votes for Pelosi for Speaker. When he gets to the Senate he will vote for Reid for majority leader. His committee assignments will be given to him as a member of the democratic caucus, which he will be. If you think that I am wrong, then explain to me how it is that Jim Jeffords does exactly this and for a short time was able to give Democrats a majority in the senate because of it?

I understand very well how congress works and for all practical purposes as far as congress is concerned, Bernie is a democrat.

BTW, Bernie doesn't have to caucus with the dems if he doesn't want to, he's ahead by like 50 points and could win a three way race with no problem if the dems challenged him. So why is it that you are pissed at him? As far as I'm concerned he's doing the right thing by locking this seat up for us and giving us his caucus vote.

[mdmc]

39. All Dems should be like Bernie!

:kick:

[MrBenchley]

45. Let the son of a bitch become a Democrat, then

Otherwise, fuck him.

[Cascadian]

47. Maybe if Democrats acted more like Sanders...

we wouldn't have the problems we have now and maybe Bernie WOULD be a Democrat then!


John

[Douglas Carpenter]

48. if Democrats acted like Sanders we would have a majority from

sea to shining sea--More importantly would could start to move our country forward and seek a newer world.

[Cascadian]

49. Damn straight!

I wished these wimpy, play it safe or go along with the Neocons would just f--king get it!

It just ticks me off!


John

[MrBenchley]

61. And then flying monkeys would come out of David Cobb's ass....

The view is stunning that far from reality.....

[Douglas Carpenter]

94. well Sir, as the Great Mohandas once said:

First they ignored us,

then they laughed at us,

then they fought us,

then we won.

---Mohandas Gandhi

[MrBenchley]

116. So how is that Vermont Progressive Party doing?

Oh, that's right.....

[Douglas Carpenter]

125. contribute now for Bernie's Senate Race

link:

https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

[MrBenchley]

127. So how Is that Vermont Progressive Party doing? Oh, that's right....

[mdmc]

143. thats right benchy

the progressives seem very happy in VT. :kick:

[Douglas Carpenter]

98. Be sure and read Bernie's Book

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


link to his book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[Douglas Carpenter]

100. there ALL scared because Bernie wins over Republicans and Swing Voters

[MrBenchley]

117. Funny, when Joe Lieberman does that, he's reviled by the Kool Kidz.....

But then Joe actually IS a Democrat......

[Douglas Carpenter]

120. Bernie does it without selling his soul

[MrBenchley]

122. LOL! So you can see into people's souls....

Sure sounds "progressive" and all....

[Douglas Carpenter]

132. sure can -- If you can hear voices -- I can see souls

[MrBenchley]

134. LOL!

[Douglas Carpenter]

84. Bernie's the greatest

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /


http://bernie.org /

"Bernie Sanders believes that in the richest nation in the history of the world, all Americans should enjoy a decent standard of living. He believes that it is unacceptable that millions of people are forced to work for sub-standard wages and lack health care, decent housing and educational opportunity. He regards it as a national disgrace that the United States has, by far, the highest rate of child poverty of any industrialized country and a childcare system that is abysmal. He regards it as unconscionable that the United States remains the only country in the industrialized world which does not have a national health care system guaranteeing health care for all, and that millions of seniors lack the prescription drugs they desperately need.

Most of Sanders’ energy has been devoted to issues that affect the needs of the people that government often ignores - working families, the middle class, the elderly, children and the poor. In a nation in which the wealthiest one percent own more wealth than the bottom ninety-five percent, and where the CEOs of major corporations earn 500 times what their employees make, Sanders believes that the middle class and working families of our country need all the help they can get. Sanders has also been strongly involved on environmental issues, and in protecting the rights of women, minorities and the gay community. He has also been one of the leaders in Congress in opposition to the war in Iraq.

When Sanders took office in 1991, he was concerned that there was no organized group in the House of Representatives to represent the economic interests of the average American. Along with four other members of the House he founded the House Progressive Caucus, which has now grown to 56 members. Sanders chaired the caucus for its first eight years. In the last three years, he has been ably followed in that position by Representatives Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Barbara Lee (D-CA). The Progressive Caucus, on a wide variety of matters, has helped lead the effort in Congress to protect the interests of the ordinary citizens of this country who cannot afford to contribute large sums of money to buy political influence. They have also played an active role against the war in Iraq.

During this session of Congress Bernie has been a leader on a number of fronts. Click here to read about the issues that he has focused on during his years in Congress" link: http://bernie.org/?page_id=35

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /

Contribute: https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

volunteer: http://bernie.org/volunteer.php
If you would prefer to call our Field Organizer call Ethan Ready at 802-355-1724 or email him at [email protected] .

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Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders for U . S. Senate 2006--A True Voice of Opposition--A Voice for Working People--Not the Elite--http://www.bernie.org/

[radio4progressives]

103. I wish he would run for president, but I know he do a great job in the

Senate - he is a TRUE PATRIOT! :loveya:

[MrBenchley]

60. So how's that Vermont Progressive Party doing?

Oh, that's right.....

[Douglas Carpenter]

123. contribute now for Bernie's Senate Race

link:

https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

[mdmc]

65. God bless Bernie and all non dems running as Dems!

Sestak, who is currently registered as a nonpartisan voter because he believes members of the military should be "apolitical," will likely face Bryan Lentz in the May 16 Democratic Primary.

[MrBenchley]

66. So when is Bernie running as a Democrat?

Oh, that's right...he's not...unlike Sestak, who IS a Democrat.

But then one of the things I respect so much about the "progressive purist" position is its relentless honesty (snicker).....

[mdmc]

68. If you vote for "the Democrat" running for Senate in VT

you vote for Bernie!

Do you have a link proving Sestak is a registered member of the Democratic party? Sestak and Saunders are going to make great candidates and great Representatives. I don't think that either is officially registered as a Democrat.

[MrBenchley]

74. So in other words, Bernie is not a Democrat

and he can go fuck himself.

[Cascadian]

70. What do you have against progressive purists?

No really? What the hell is your problem with people who refuse to compromise their principles? Are you afraid that one day they may win over these so-called "pragmatists" who claim they are Democrats?

These are people who give a damn about the little guy and to hell with these corporatists who have been taking over the Democratic Party. What good is a Democratic lawmaker when he or she votes for the Iraq war and refuse to filibuster against Neocons like Alito?

I think you are being narrow-minded and arrogant.



John

[MrBenchley]

73. LOL!

"Are you afraid that one day they may win over these so-called "pragmatists" who claim they are Democrats?"
No...I know what an importent and worthless bunch they are.

[Telly Savalas]

86. Unlike Tom Daschle...

Bernie Sanders still holds elected office.

Who's the fucking pragmatist here? Maybe Sanders should water down his views and join the Democrats? Is that what you suggest?


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[Telly Savalas]

87. Bernie might run as a Democrat when it's supported by fewer

dull-witted rightwing shills, not that I'm naming any names here.

[radio4progressives]

104. LOL!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

139. Why? He's doing just fine where he is and never voted against

anything that wasn't progressive. He has status being what he is...a lone wolf or voice in the wilderness and doing what's right...not what's good for some cooperation. To the contrary...Let all Demo become Independents or Socialist like Bernie! Here's to Bernie!
Mans best friend!:beer: :thumbsup::toast: :bounce:

[mdmc]

141. let the dems become progressive!

:kick:

[Telly Savalas]

92. Given the presence of loud-mouthed, arrogant, irrational pricks

in the Democratic Party, I really don't blame him for not wanting to be a member.

[MrBenchley]

118. Feel free to join the Vermont Progressive Party

Oh, that's right.....

[mdmc]

71. independent that deserves DEM support!

:kick:

[radio4progressives]

105. Yes!

:bounce:

[mdmc]

21. lol!

:kick: That tells us something!

[Wind Dancer]

4. My son worked with Bernie last year at the Vermont State Fair.

He volunteered at Bernie's booth and was able to talk with him for a long time about many different issues. Bernie was extremely appreciative and bought lunch for him and the other volunteer. He's down to earth and always speaks truth to power. Vermonters love his frequent town-hall meetings and door to door visits plus he's the only rep that has a toll-free number for those outside of Vermont to call and voice their concerns.

I've talked to his staff many times and will do everything possible to help him take the Senate seat in 2006. He is being targeted by the swiftboaters for refusing to take corporate donations - taking money from regular folks is a crime in the eyes of those attacking him. You just can't make this shit up.

[Armstead]

10. I doubt there is much Swift Boat potential with Bernie

He's been a fixture in Vt. politics for so long that I can't imagine there is anything seamy to go after. It's a small state, and it would be hard to keep any skeletons in closets there.

About the only attackable thing I could pictuire is that hye is a "socialist." But since he's has labeled himself that as years, Vermont voters either care about that or not already -- and based on the election results, they obviously accept that.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. That's so neat!

I'm not from Vermont or anything but have gotten to know of Bernie lately and he's become a fast favorite. I adore Bernie! :loveya: There are only a few politicians I adore and I'm proud to say Bernie is one. I hope and pray he makes it to the Senate. It'd be great to have someone like him there.

[radio4progressives]

51. they attack him for not taking corporate funding? jeeze..n/t

[mdmc]

40. NC state would be well graced with his leadership

Dole stinks!

[radio4progressives]

106. omg you poor thing... i can't stand her! i was raised in nc btw...

dad was based at camp lejeune, so lived in surrounding vicinities jacksonville, swansboro, morehead city then i lived on topsail island in a commune for a while until i left the south, but that was a long time ago.. ;)

[radio4progressives]

50. I met Bernie Sanders last Spring in St Louis, Mo. (Media Conference)

He is one of the most passionate, principled and politically righteous elected officials - i'm proud that he is a "self identified" Socialist.

When anyone takes even a remedial glimpse at Sanders positions, on Domestic issues that he cares about - gosh, isn't interesting it's exactly what every Democratic Senator or House rep claims they want too? Bernie's spot on domestic and foreign polies - right in line with Senator Kennedy, and even Senator Russ Feingold, and 1/2 of House Reps in the Democratic party.

so, when you see right wingers on this board disparaging Bernie and Kennedy or Feingold as "left fringe" just hand them Joe - Sean Hannity's go to guy-Lieberman and tell him to shove it.

[Douglas Carpenter]

95. Be sure and read Bernie's Book

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


link to his book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[radio4progressives]

107. i love the title, it's a great hook.. n/t

[mdmc]

144. Bernie is one of the best!

If he becomes a Senator, I think that he will be the best American Senator, EVER!

[Douglas Carpenter]

7. a plug for Bernie for Senate

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org/


http://bernie.org /

"Bernie Sanders believes that in the richest nation in the history of the world, all Americans should enjoy a decent standard of living. He believes that it is unacceptable that millions of people are forced to work for sub-standard wages and lack health care, decent housing and educational opportunity. He regards it as a national disgrace that the United States has, by far, the highest rate of child poverty of any industrialized country and a childcare system that is abysmal. He regards it as unconscionable that the United States remains the only country in the industrialized world which does not have a national health care system guaranteeing health care for all, and that millions of seniors lack the prescription drugs they desperately need.

Most of Sanders’ energy has been devoted to issues that affect the needs of the people that government often ignores - working families, the middle class, the elderly, children and the poor. In a nation in which the wealthiest one percent own more wealth than the bottom ninety-five percent, and where the CEOs of major corporations earn 500 times what their employees make, Sanders believes that the middle class and working families of our country need all the help they can get. Sanders has also been strongly involved on environmental issues, and in protecting the rights of women, minorities and the gay community. He has also been one of the leaders in Congress in opposition to the war in Iraq.

When Sanders took office in 1991, he was concerned that there was no organized group in the House of Representatives to represent the economic interests of the average American. Along with four other members of the House he founded the House Progressive Caucus, which has now grown to 56 members. Sanders chaired the caucus for its first eight years. In the last three years, he has been ably followed in that position by Representatives Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Barbara Lee (D-CA). The Progressive Caucus, on a wide variety of matters, has helped lead the effort in Congress to protect the interests of the ordinary citizens of this country who cannot afford to contribute large sums of money to buy political influence. They have also played an active role against the war in Iraq.

During this session of Congress Bernie has been a leader on a number of fronts. Click here to read about the issues that he has focused on during his years in Congress" link: http://bernie.org/?page_id=35

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org/

Contribute: https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

volunteer: http://bernie.org/volunteer.php
If you would prefer to call our Field Organizer call Ethan Ready at 802-355-1724 or email him at [email protected].

Audio/Video:

http://bernie.org/?cat=4

Issues:

http://bernie.org/?page_id=77

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[LincolnMcGrath]

11. According to Mr.Benchley, Bernie Sanders is a 3rd Party Wacko.

:rofl:

[Douglas Carpenter]

12. did he really say that?

[mdmc]

19. benchy is wrong

ignore him :hi:

[radio4progressives]

56. I do already... i can always tell when a right winger wacko is posting

without having to read any of it.

it's marked with a stream of:

"ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore"
"ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "i"ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore" "ignore"

[mdmc]

75. At first I thought he was a freeper

but he is not. He looks up cool Dem shit, and posts cool shit. But he is such a dick! Justs gives Dems a bad name is all,,,

[radio4progressives]

108. self delete

self delete...

[radio4progressives]

110. yep - never read anything but insults - so..... n/t

[MrBenchley]

22. Let's see...he's not a Democrat, not part of the GOP

Yup. Guess he must be third party. In fact, he's the "Vermont Progressive Party," an inspiring bunch that basically consists him and a couple of campaign contributors.

What's hilarious is that he couldn't even keep his own third party from falling apart in his own district....

[Armstead]

25. Let's see, he manages to win so many votes....

...that Democrats and Republicans both don't even bother to get him out of the House anymore.

Seems like there's more than a little political acumen there.

[MrBenchley]

26. So fucking what?

He's not a Democrat. He can go shit in his hat for all I care.

It's funny that the people who are busy trying to pitch people out of the Democratic tent never seem to care that their fair haired boy isn't in it....it's almost like they got no clue how politics works.

[Armstead]

27. Um, isn't winning elections the point of politics?

And if you look at Bernie's record, he votes like a Democrat.

[MrBenchley]

28. No, governing well is the point of politics....

Winning elections is just the vehicle that lets Democrats gain control. And having somebody who's not a Democrat clogging a seat in Congress is no help in gaining control of Congress.

If he's all that, let him become a Democrat. Otherwise he can go fuck himself, as far as I'm concerned.

[Armstead]

29. Bernie acts with the Democrats and caucuses with them

For all intents and purposes he is a Democrat in terms of the working of Congress.

If the ratio of seats in the House ever gets close enough that it matters in procedural terms whether a representative is a Democrats or an independent you might have a point. But right now it is irrelevant in the terms you mentioned.

You miss sight of the forest for the trees. You might start looking at why democrats can't get it together enough to the elections that would actually allow some governance.

[MrBenchley]

30. Then let the son of a bitch join the Democratic party

Otherwise he can go fuck himself.

"You might start looking at why democrats can't get it together enough"
Geeze, there's a whole nother thread about that....wherein our progressive purists are busy fighting FOR a crapass loony who says the Nazis didn't kill the Jews.

[Douglas Carpenter]

36. that is simply not true Sir:

[MrBenchley]

42. That sure as shit was true....

Even funnier, it was in a discussion of why that loony's disciples were so far out of touch with mainstream America...

[Douglas Carpenter]

46. that is not true Sir

[MrBenchley]

63. It sure as shit is true....

As a glance at the thread will show....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2448115

And I doubt you could find a more apropos illustration of the sheer cluelessness of the far fringe left than the desperate attempts to whitewash the dreary old shithead's Nazi apologia.

[Douglas Carpenter]

83. it is still not true Sir. You're being disingenuous

[MrBenchley]

115. Absofuckinglutely true....

And the continued attempts to whitewash the dreary old loon's disgraceful statements only emphasize the point of that otehr thread is spades.

[Douglas Carpenter]

121. still not true Sir.

[MrBenchley]

124. Not only absolutely true...

But a wonderful validation of the other thread....

[Douglas Carpenter]

126. a lie cannot be turned into truth Sir no matter how often its repeated

[Douglas Carpenter]

128. contribute now for Bernie's Senate Race

link:

https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

[Douglas Carpenter]

130. Be sure and read Bernies Book

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[MrBenchley]

129. Which is why your attempt to whitewash the disgraceful old loon's

words and actions is such a comtemptible flop.

[Douglas Carpenter]

131. Bernie's the greatest

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /


http://bernie.org /

"Bernie Sanders believes that in the richest nation in the history of the world, all Americans should enjoy a decent standard of living. He believes that it is unacceptable that millions of people are forced to work for sub-standard wages and lack health care, decent housing and educational opportunity. He regards it as a national disgrace that the United States has, by far, the highest rate of child poverty of any industrialized country and a childcare system that is abysmal. He regards it as unconscionable that the United States remains the only country in the industrialized world which does not have a national health care system guaranteeing health care for all, and that millions of seniors lack the prescription drugs they desperately need.

Most of Sanders’ energy has been devoted to issues that affect the needs of the people that government often ignores - working families, the middle class, the elderly, children and the poor. In a nation in which the wealthiest one percent own more wealth than the bottom ninety-five percent, and where the CEOs of major corporations earn 500 times what their employees make, Sanders believes that the middle class and working families of our country need all the help they can get. Sanders has also been strongly involved on environmental issues, and in protecting the rights of women, minorities and the gay community. He has also been one of the leaders in Congress in opposition to the war in Iraq.

When Sanders took office in 1991, he was concerned that there was no organized group in the House of Representatives to represent the economic interests of the average American. Along with four other members of the House he founded the House Progressive Caucus, which has now grown to 56 members. Sanders chaired the caucus for its first eight years. In the last three years, he has been ably followed in that position by Representatives Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Barbara Lee (D-CA). The Progressive Caucus, on a wide variety of matters, has helped lead the effort in Congress to protect the interests of the ordinary citizens of this country who cannot afford to contribute large sums of money to buy political influence. They have also played an active role against the war in Iraq.

During this session of Congress Bernie has been a leader on a number of fronts. Click here to read about the issues that he has focused on during his years in Congress" link: http://bernie.org/?page_id=35

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /

Contribute: https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

volunteer: http://bernie.org/volunteer.php
If you would prefer to call our Field Organizer call Ethan Ready at 802-355-1724 or email him at [email protected] .

Audio/Video:

http://bernie.org/?cat=4

Issues:

http://bernie.org/?page_id=77

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Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders for U . S. Senate 2006--A True Voice of Opposition--A Voice for Working People--Not the Elite--http://www.bernie.org /

[MrBenchley]

133. Then let the son of a bitch become a Democrat

[Telly Savalas]

89. Well, gee fucking whiz...

maybe he should get some lessons from the fucking Democrats on how to get in touch with mainstream America, since they've been dominating electoral politics so fucking effectively.

[ulysses]

38. and how fortunate for so many

Otherwise he can go fuck himself, as far as I'm concerned.

that Sanders is not in need of your personal validation.

[MrBenchley]

43. So many what?

[ulysses]

67. people. n/t

[Telly Savalas]

88. Blah blah blah

Blah blah blah


Blah blah blah.

[LincolnMcGrath]

33. "it's almost like they got no clue how politics works"

Like someone saying Bernie Sanders has a DISTRICT?

[MrBenchley]

44. ALL House members represent a district....

But try not to let any facts get in the way of your tantrum....

[LincolnMcGrath]

32. He has a district?

[MrBenchley]

34. You think House members don't?

Here, so even you can understand it....


"Representatives' primary responsibility is to represent the citizens in their congressional districts."

http://clerkkids.house.gov/congress/members/index.html

[LincolnMcGrath]

35. Cute. Now tell us what District in Vt does Bernie Sanders represent?

Bernie's DISTRICT is the entire state of Vt. If you recall, you made this mistake once before.

[MrBenchley]

41. The only district, silly.

[LincolnMcGrath]

113. This district?

Quote Benchley "So if we want to have a House seat from a tiny district in a liberal state"

Quote Benchley "We yet to see if that translates into even statewide support."

[Cascadian]

52. What an arrogant comment!

I am sorry but it's true. It just belies the big problem we have in this country. The lack of freedom of choice in our votes. We should be able to have all parties and all platforms to be allowed a shot and for people to have more choices. Sadly, we are being subjected to Republican and those who want the Democratic Party to be "Republican Lite". What kind of democracy is that? I hope Bernie Sanders makes it and wins. He is very popular in Vermont you know.

Once again, Vermont leads the way to true Democracy and Freedom!


John

[MrBenchley]

64. Fuck that noise....

"He is very popular in Vermont you know."
And how IS that Vermont Progressive Party doing? Oh, that's right......

[ulysses]

76. let's see...he's in his eighth term in congress.

You really *don't* like inconvenient facts, do you?

[MrBenchley]

77. So is that fuckwit John Boehner

If Bernie's all that, let him become a Democrat.

[ulysses]

78. why?

He's winning just fine as an independent.

Man, that gets your knickers in a *fine* twist, doesn't it? :D

[MrBenchley]

79. He's not a Democrat, so he can go fuck himself....

[ulysses]

80. you've said this before, as I recall.

I'll paraphrase my own earlier response and say that it's a damned good thing for the country that he doesn't need your personal validation.

BTW, nice job raising the level of discussion by the guy who spent a lot of time a while back talking about progressive "teenagers". :eyes:

[Telly Savalas]

90. It's how the Republicans work...

if you keep repeating the exact same fucking thing over and over and over again, you can get really stupid people to agree with you.

[MrBenchley]

119. Hence the Kool Kidz' constant attacks on Democrats here....

[LincolnMcGrath]

31. Yes he did!

[Armstead]

13. He's a 3rd Party Whacko who knows how to win by wide margins

Maybe we need more 3rd Party Whackos

[radio4progressives]

57. Yeah! That Just Might Work! Roll Over Vichy's Aint' Working No More..

in the Veto Alito campaign, we discovered we had fewer than 14 out of 45 "Democrats" who actually sort of blue Democrats. 19 of them were complete traitors, out of the 14 that did vote for cloture, only after such enourmous pressure by constituents that really, i think there were only 4 or five that could be considered True Blue Democrats.

[Cascadian]

58. Hear Hear!

Doesn't anybody have a clue that people are getting sick and tired of the complacency? The wishy-washy act ain't working anymore! This is why you have a lot of people turned off by voting and getting involved. Many of them say "that there is no difference between the two parties anymore." They want affordable or universal health care, they want workers rights, they want quality education, and a strong environment. What has happened to the Democrats in the couple of elections is this wanting to morph into a Democrat wanting to be a Republican. IT DOES NOT WORK! Americans want a choice, they ought to have one.


John

[Hippo_Tron]

82. Benchley's scared shitless of Bernie being elected to the US Senate

Coincidentally, Bush & Co is too.

[Douglas Carpenter]

99. there ALL scared because Bernie wins over Republicans and Swing Voters

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


link to his book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[radio4progressives]

111. Socialist Libertarian - Fierce Defender of Civil Liberties & Civil Right

this republican party could give a shit less about either - giving Libertarians no where else to go, but Bernie will fight for their rights just as hard as he'll fight for the rights of the dispossessed.

And anyway, I'm thinking Vermont is very special place to have community of people that hold Bernie and his politics in such high regard...

[Douglas Carpenter]

114. and Bernie carries Staunch Republican counties by landslides

that's why some are so scared of him..

[mdmc]

14. Bernie is where the Democrats should be!

:kick:

[radio4progressives]

54. MB says Sanders is a wacko? I'd say Pot meet kettle, but not in this case

Sanders is a true leftist, but "wacko" it ain't. He's brilliant and he's principled - he's also warm, passionate and loving human being.

describing Sanders as a "wacko" could only be said by a right wing wacko.

[Cascadian]

55. Some people just see things in black and white.

When most people know there are always gray areas in anything. It's either a choice between Republican and Republican Lite. What if you do want neither. :eyes:

John

[FreedomAngel82]

15. How is Bernie doing?

[radio4progressives]

59. all reports say he's fine... You mean from his illness right? n/t

[Armstead]

72. Illness?

Has he got health problems?

[radio4progressives]

102. something happened the other day, the msm said he collapsed at a speech

or some kind of event for someone else i don't recall, but that he collapsed and was taken to the hospital - later the msm said he had a bout with the flu.

don't know more than that, but i was worried... then he came on to do his usual appearance with Thom Hartmann on Friday but i missed the show, Thom said on Thursday that Bernie was fine...

:shrug:

[radio4progressives]

17. too late to nominate...

but :kick: for good post...

[Rainscents]

18. I love Bernie!

I listen to him on every Friday on Thom Hartmann's show. Always look forward to Friday morning!

[Daylin Byak]

20. Christ, the man is awesome

And I don't care that he's not a democrat. Bernie tells it like it is, espically when it comes to free trade. Last summer and he knew he would get defeated he still went to the house floor demanding the the United states withdraw from the WTO, so america won't lost jobs to foreign competors(like china or taiwan)He got his ass kicked in voting but he still went there and fought the good fight.

GO SENATOR SANDERS!!!

[Armstead]

24. It's too bad he has to be seen as unique instead of typical

Bernie's great, but his straight talking about issues and his relentless fighting spirit for the middle and lower classes should be the norm for Democratic politicians.

And too many Democratic establishment types also miss a crucial point. He know how to do politics that actually wins by substantial majorities.

[Douglas Carpenter]

37. frankly I hope he does register Democrat and runs for President

of the United States, probably not in 2008 -- but at some future date.

I sincerely believe that he would quite likely win. He is perhaps the most persuasive politician I have ever heard. Someone who can convince rural conservative Christian Republican voters to vote for an unapologetic socialist in landslide proportions is pretty persuasive. Whenever he appears in FOX News he gets inundated with E-mails and letters from conservative FOX viewers who like what he has to say. That is pretty persuasive. Once I stumbled upon a thread about him on FR (I don't go there very often, honest). I expected to hear some crap about him being a commie and so forth. Instead I actually saw a number of comments which where actually very favorable and down right flattering. Now that is REALLY persuasive.

Bernie Sanders for President of the United States.

It is possible. It could happen

[mdmc]

142. I think we are worthy of his membership!

:kick:

[Telly Savalas]

93. Until Christ joins the Democratic Party

he can go fuck himself.

[Douglas Carpenter]

101. is he still an independent?

[Douglas Carpenter]

85. more on Bernie

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /


http://bernie.org /

"Bernie Sanders believes that in the richest nation in the history of the world, all Americans should enjoy a decent standard of living. He believes that it is unacceptable that millions of people are forced to work for sub-standard wages and lack health care, decent housing and educational opportunity. He regards it as a national disgrace that the United States has, by far, the highest rate of child poverty of any industrialized country and a childcare system that is abysmal. He regards it as unconscionable that the United States remains the only country in the industrialized world which does not have a national health care system guaranteeing health care for all, and that millions of seniors lack the prescription drugs they desperately need.

Most of Sanders’ energy has been devoted to issues that affect the needs of the people that government often ignores - working families, the middle class, the elderly, children and the poor. In a nation in which the wealthiest one percent own more wealth than the bottom ninety-five percent, and where the CEOs of major corporations earn 500 times what their employees make, Sanders believes that the middle class and working families of our country need all the help they can get. Sanders has also been strongly involved on environmental issues, and in protecting the rights of women, minorities and the gay community. He has also been one of the leaders in Congress in opposition to the war in Iraq.

When Sanders took office in 1991, he was concerned that there was no organized group in the House of Representatives to represent the economic interests of the average American. Along with four other members of the House he founded the House Progressive Caucus, which has now grown to 56 members. Sanders chaired the caucus for its first eight years. In the last three years, he has been ably followed in that position by Representatives Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Barbara Lee (D-CA). The Progressive Caucus, on a wide variety of matters, has helped lead the effort in Congress to protect the interests of the ordinary citizens of this country who cannot afford to contribute large sums of money to buy political influence. They have also played an active role against the war in Iraq.

During this session of Congress Bernie has been a leader on a number of fronts. Click here to read about the issues that he has focused on during his years in Congress" link: http://bernie.org/?page_id=35

Sanders for U.S. Senate link: http://bernie.org /

Contribute: https://secure.bernie.org/page/contribute

volunteer: http://bernie.org/volunteer.php
If you would prefer to call our Field Organizer call Ethan Ready at 802-355-1724 or email him at [email protected] .

Audio/Video:

http://bernie.org/?cat=4

Issues:

http://bernie.org/?page_id=77

PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
PENSIONS
USA PATRIOT ACT
CORPORATE CONTROL OF THE MEDIA
TRADE
IRAQ
ENVIRONMENT

Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders for U . S. Senate 2006--A True Voice of Opposition--A Voice for Working People--Not the Elite--http://www.bernie.org/

[radio4progressives]

112. great photo of him... he and Feingold have similar political views..

very progressive and both fierce advocates of civil liberties - if Bernie wins, that will mean TWO out of One Hundred who give a shit about our Constitution, and our Bill of Rights and the powers of Separation doctrines.

[Douglas Carpenter]

96. Be sure and read Bernie's Book

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1859848710.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


link to his book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1859848710/ref=cm_bg_f_2/103-4019417-4043012?v=glance&n=283155

[LincolnMcGrath]

109. WOW! MrHonesty sure knows how to elevate the discourse.

:eyes: :rofl:

[DianeK]

135. I don't know why anyone would not be happy to have

Bernie Sanders in the House or the Senate...I remember many years ago before Jeffords changed his part affiliation from Republican to Independent and both Sanders and Jeffords came way up here to Northwestern Vermont to participate in a parade. It is very Republican in this particular County. Jeffords came marching down the street to polite applause but when Bernie came along everyone was on their feet with exuberant approval. This in a predominently Republican County! The reason Bernie has no worries up here is that he works tirelessly for ALL of us!

[LincolnMcGrath]

136. Thank You for that local report.

The DUer bleating the loudest against Mr Sanders is as clueless about Bernie as he is about Vt.

[mdmc]

140. Thats America!

Thank you for your post!

[Mass]

137. He will be a welcomed addition to the Senate

[Armstead]

138. THANKS TO Mr. BENCHLEY -- REALLY

Usually my bernioe posts sink to the bottom pretty quickly. But your hatred of him has brought many posts and kept this thread alive.

So thanks.

[buddhamama]

145. yes kudos

for hating all things progressive.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

146. *snicker*

:thumbsup:

[mdmc]

147. check out this Bernie link

http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17297