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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:09 PM
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Dear Gov. Dean -- Hayden mimics Helms: How quaintly Nixonian …
26 January 2006 (# 52)

Mr. Bush has been doing a Nixon redux these past few weeks with the “Because I’m President, it’s legal” bunk. A minor difference that someone might want to whisper to Bush -- Nixon was actually elected President.

The similarities to the Nixon era extend to having members of their respective administrations lie to Congress.

Mr. Helms lied to Congress regarding the use of the CIA to topple Chilean President Allende. As Mark Halperin reminds us today, at Think Progress, General Hayden has done the same. Moreover:

The Bush administration has pulled out all the stops in attempting to defend the NSA’s warrantless domestic spying program. After speeches by President Bush and Attorney General Gonzales, Deputy Director of National Intelligence and former NSA Director General Michael Hayden took another crack at the defense in a speech on Monday. He’s not exactly the ideal choice to restore the administration’s credibility.

As Think Progress documented back in December (2005), Hayden misled Congress.
In his 10/17/02 testimony, he told a committee investigating the 9/11 attacks that any surveillance of persons in the United States was done consistent with FISA.

At the time of his statements, Hayden was fully aware of the presidential order to conduct warrantless domestic spying issued the previous year. But Hayden didn’t feel as though he needed to share that with Congress. Apparently, Hayden believed that he had been legally authorized to conduct the surveillance, but told Congress that he had no authority to do exactly what he was doing. The Fraud and False Statements statute (18 U.S.C. 1001) make Hayden’s misleading statements to Congress illegal.

Link: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/26/hayden-broke-law


Glenn Greenwald has now made Mr. Bush’s fierce attempts to prove he’s not a crook even more reminiscent of Nixon, and the claims made this week by Hayden and Gonzales even more Helms-like:

… the Administration’s excuse from the time the scandal broke and repeated by Gen. Hayden two days ago – that FISA does not provide the necessary "speed and agility" for eavesdropping – was directly contradicted by its claims in June, 2002 that the Patriot Act’s FISA amendments give it all the speed and agility it needed.

Here is the critical point: if, as the Administration is now claiming, FISA was inadequate for eavesdropping, why was it telling the Congress in June, 2002 that FISA was perfectly adequate to enable all the eavesdropping it wanted, and even praising Congress for amending FISA (via the Patriot Act) and thereby giving the Administration everything it needed?

Link: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/01/significance-of-administrations-july.html


In the same blog post, Mr. Greenwald reminds us just how Nixonian Bush and his neoconster minions are being:

Virtually every significant political law-breaking scandal in our nation’s history is comprised of two components: (a) the law-breaking itself, and (b) the subsequent attempts to cover up and explain away the law-breaking with falsehoods and untrue explanations.

That is what we are seeing now. The Administration scrambled for a full month to explain why they had to eavesdrop outside of the very permissive FISA scheme, to explain why they eavesdropped with no judicial oversight even though the law makes it a criminal offense to do so. We had been fed nothing but incoherent gibberish about the need for "speed and agility" in this "different war."

Now we finally heard an explanation from the Administration as to why they supposedly had to eavesdrop in violation of FISA -- because FISA supposedly was too rigid to allow the eavesdropping they wanted to do – and that explanation is clearly false, as proven by the Administration's own statements and conduct at the time.

Link: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/01/significance-of-administrations-july.html


Mr. Bush and members of his administration have violated the 4th Amendment and broken laws – FISA, National Security Act and 18 USC 1001, at a minimum (http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/23279res20051229.html). They must be impeached and prosecuted. We do not need to know why they decided to illegally spy on Americans to proceed with those just actions, now.

However, during the discovery phase of prosecuting them every effort should be made to uncover the details of whom they spied and to whom they shared the illegally gathered information. No “executive privilege” can shield access to such information because it was gathered illegally, and un-Constitutionally. My only concern is that unless someone is willing to tell the truth, it is likely that the physical evidence of the intercepted communications and who was provided access to the information has already been destroyed.

One mistake Nixon made you can be sure these crooks will not make, leave any evidence to be discovered. In other words, had Bush and his neoconsters been around in 1974, this is what they would have been saying -- “tapes, what tapes, you’ve gotta be joking, we’d never tape our conversations” and nobody would have been able to prove they were lying because the tapes would have already been incinerated.

Thank you for your continued leadership,

p.s. As I was printing this letter to you I noticed the following from the DNC:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59831
We’re definitely in sync on this one!



Peace.



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:13 PM
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1. Cumulative letter index:
# 1 -- Dear Gov. Dean --- America, Or Not?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5531641

# 2 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush knows he's lying ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5541924

# 3 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Talk about extreme hiking …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5551415

# 4 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- About those “Niger forgeries” ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5560254

# 5 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Passing the "Nuremberg chalice" …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5568226

# 6 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Beyond a wall for “The Fallen Legion” …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5574037&mesg_id=5574037

# 7 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Let’s take Wally O’Dell at his word …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x404707

# 8 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Making it up” … Must Be Stopped
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5593443&mesg_id=5593443

# 9 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Accumulated evil of the whole"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5601256&mesg_id=5601256

# 10 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Just dial 1-800-CALL-SPY ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5608382

# 11 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Same Intel as Congress," NOT ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5611041&mesg_id=5611041

# 12 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Concealing Crimes …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5615989

# 13 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- No One Is Above The Law In America
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5630443&mesg_id=5630443

# 14 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Why did Bush violate FISA and the 4th Amendment?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5638345&mesg_id=5638345

# 15 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "From Conservative Scholars to Sigint specialists …"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5647673&mesg_id=5649953

# 16 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The BIG New York Times story yet to be told …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5660702&mesg_id=5660702

# 17 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The rabid dogs are cornered …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5666006&mesg_id=5666006

# 18 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush's Treasonous Christmas Gift to Iran ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5675687

# 19 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Make Room at the Inn for the Two Ethnic Uighurs ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5679357&mesg_id=5679357

# 20 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Destruction of Meaning ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5684701&mesg_id=5684701

# 21 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's No Longer Baseball ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5687852&mesg_id=5687852

# 22 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's the Oppression of Females ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=29232

# 23 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “GOP wins Senate, holds House, CNN projects"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5703874&mesg_id=5703874

# 24 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- GOPers either Impeach Bush or Lose in 2006
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=19413

# 25 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Coleen Rowley speaks truth to Bush's liars-for-hire …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=8294

# 26 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Bush, Blair Confess-or-Boil Policy ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2667

# 27 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Total Information Awareness" -- For ALL Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=31336&mesg_id=31336

# 28 -- Dear Gov. Dean - Even Ashcroft said “No”; So, why did the NYTimes hide it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=37023&mesg_id=37023

# 29 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Congratulations, and …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=43982&mesg_id=43982

# 30 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- NSA, Telco illegal spying pre-dates 9/11 ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=52300&mesg_id=52300

# 31 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Solving” the Iraqi WMD problem …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=52300&mesg_id=59094

# 32 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- So, they attack Rep. Murtha instead of the criminals …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=70009&mesg_id=70009

# 33 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush’s lethal, impenetrable narcissism …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=75571&mesg_id=75571

# 34 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Dearlove-Tenet Summit and Bush's Crimes ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=84233&mesg_id=84233

# 35 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I would not have gone to war on such flimsy grounds”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=84233&mesg_id=89044

# 36 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I know the capacity … to make tyranny total in America”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=92335&mesg_id=94250

# 37 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Alito is a liar; time to filibuster …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x100900

# 38 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Finally, it has started.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x113728

# 39 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I learned from my mistake …”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=124921&mesg_id=124921

# 40 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Of all of Bush’s lies …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=133942&mesg_id=133942

# 41 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- They just start educating and they don’t stop …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=141686&mesg_id=141949

# 42 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Amplifying awareness of the Bush regime’s mendacity …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=149007

# 43 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "We the People ... Have No Clothes"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=153653

# 44 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush is not, Constitutionally, Commander-In-Chief …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=167458

# 45 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Urge support for Murtha to deliver SOTU rebuttal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=180960

# 46 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- OBL; are you sure? (No ‘tin foil hat’ required) …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=187606&mesg_id=195020

# 47 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Urge a Boycott of SOTU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=204315&mesg_id=205035

# 48 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush's Illegitimate Presidency
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=212768&mesg_id=212768

# 49 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Proprietary e-Voting Kills Democracy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=212768&mesg_id=217280

# 50 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "That's why Wilson had to be shut down."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=222519&mesg_id=222519

# 51 – Dear Gov. Dean – “Take It To The People”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2388627&mesg_id=2389035

# 52 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Hayden mimics Helms: How quaintly Nixonian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=251090&mesg_id=251090


You are free to distribute these, and make use of the content within each letter , without having to contact me. If anyone would like a .pdf compilation of all the letters, just pm me with an email address and I'll send you a copy.


Peace.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:52 PM
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3. Wow !
Thanks for all you've done. You've been busy.

There are some truly amazing people around here.:thumbsup:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 05:41 PM
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5. Thank you!
Peace.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:45 PM
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2. Kick!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:53 PM
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4. My mother in law is buried with an IMPEACH NIXON button on. I am thankful
she didn't live to see the day that Nixon doesn't look quite as bad as we now face.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 05:58 PM
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6. Yes. I never thought I'd ever say that something worse than Nixon ...
... had happened to America, but it has -- way worse.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 08:06 PM
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7. BradBlog: Video: NSA Deputy Director Admits Bush Spying Program ...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:05 AM
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