Raw Story: .. MOTION IN HOUSE TO EXAMINE WHETHER BUSH HAS COMMITTED IMPEA

[grytpype]

CONGRESSMAN INTRODUCES MOTION IN HOUSE TO EXAMINE WHETHER BUSH HAS COMMITTED IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES.... INTRODUCES MOTION TO CENSURE PRESIDENT BUSH, CHENEY... DEVELOPING...

That's all there is, no article yet.

http://rawstory.com/

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

1. There is no question that he has

The only IF is if congress is honorable enough to do it's duty, regardless of party label.

[longship]

2. Right!!! That'll fly in the House.

The lunatic fringe Repugs will smash this resolution. This hands Dem candidates a campaign issue on a golden platter.

[dalloway]

10. exactly! The time is now. Go JC!

[stop the bleeding]

12. Very good point - they are damned if they and damned if they don't

K&R

[FreedomAngel82]

40. So true

[win_in_06]

23. But possibly ends the road to impeachment for now, at least on this issue.

[grytpype]

3. It's Conyers, here's his announcement on his blog

http://www.conyersblog.us/default.htm

The Constitution in Crisis: Censure and Investigate Possible Impeachment

For more information, go to www.johnconyers.com

Cross Posted at Huffington Post and DailyKos

Today, I am releasing a staff report entitled, "The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Coverups in the Iraq War.

Before talking about the report, I must express my profound gratitude to the readers of this site, who kept this story alive when no one would cover it, and continued to talk about it after some in the media moved on. Much of the research in this report is a product of the input and hard work of DailyKos, Huffington Post and Conyersblog readers over the last six months (the help with my "timeline project" was particularly useful). I also am so grateful to progressive talk radio hosts and listeners, who have refused to allow the American people to forget the nation was deceived into war.

Now on to the Report and what I plan to do about it. In sum, the report examines the Bush Administration?s actions in taking us to war from A to Z. The report finds there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice-President and other high ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration.

The Report concludes that a number of these actions amount to prima facie evidence (evidence sufficiently strong to presume the allegations are true) that federal criminal laws have been violated. Legal violations span from false statements to Congress to whistleblower laws.

The Report also concludes that these charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable conduct. However, because the Administration has failed to respond to requests for information about these charges, it is not yet possible to conclude that an impeachment inquiry or articles of impeachment are warranted.

In response to the Report, I have already taken a number of actions. First, I have introduced a resolution (H. Res. 635) creating a Select Committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war and report on possible impeachable offenses. In Watergate, for example, the Congress did not begin matters as an impeachment inquiry, but investigated matters ? through the Ervin Committee ? and referred impeachable evidence to the Judiciary Committee.

Second, I have introduced Resolutions regarding both President Bush (H. Res. 636) and Vice-President Cheney (H. Res. 637) proposing that they be censured by Congress based on the uncontroverted evidence already on the record and their failure to respond to Congressional and public inquiries about these matters and have never accounted for their many specific misstatements in the run up to War.

As you know, taking these steps means that I am likely to be criticized by the political and media establishments in Washington and attacked by the right wing noise machine. There is a school of thought among Washington political consultants that criticizing the President about Iraq will make Democrats appear to be weak on national security. There is a media establishment that marginalizes politicians for espousing beliefs held by the majority of Americans. The right wing noise machine in turn retaliates against the President’s critics.

Be that as it may, I just could not be silent any longer. The title of the report is exactly right: the Constitution is in Crisis. There are serious and well-substantiated allegations that the Executive Branch has usurped the sole power of the Congress to declare war by deceiving the Congress about the evidence for war. There are serious and well-substantiated allegations that the Executive Branch has deceived the American people to manufacture the people’s consent for war.

If you agree with me, I am going to need your help like never before. Please go to my website, www.johnconyers.com, where you will find an action center, including a copy of the Report via Raw Story, and ways you can help. Also visit www.censurebush.com to join with other activists who want to move this issue forward.

[oldtime dfl_er]

5. reitereating last para

Reiterating the last part for those who don't read the whole thing:
"If you agree with me, I am going to need your help like never before. Please go to my website, www.johnconyers.com, where you will find an action center, including a copy of the Report via Raw Story, and ways you can help. Also visit www.censurebush.org (edited to give correct URL) to join with other activists who want to move this issue forward."



http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010

[webtrainer]

8. the url s/b censurebush.org

n/t

[Freedom_from_Chains]

11. Your link needs to be fixed. it is,

http://www.censurebush.org

[SharonRB]

4. Hasn't the house already recessed?

I just listened to Conyers on Stephanie's show. I didn't realize he had already introduced the motion -- I thought he was just thinking about doing it when they return after the recess. This is great news.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

9. When were these motions introduced?

This is the absolute first I have heard about it.

[MaineDem]

6. The House is not in session

Maybe this WILL be introduced but it can't be when they're in recess (until Thursday.)

[radio4progressives]

13. C-Span isn't broadcasting House Session -

Only broadcasting NSA advisor Stephen Haddley spinning pr shite for the chimp. :tinfoilhat:

[MaineDem]

14. House is in recess

There's nothing to televise.

[radio4progressives]

33. Thanks... Raw Story didn't indicate that in the report..

now i can remove my tinfoil hat for a little while... ;)

:tinfoilhat:

[bpilgrim]

7. Mr. Conyers Speaks for ME & My Family!

www.house.gov/conyers

k&r

peace

[dutchdemocrat]

15. Yessssssss......

[meganmonkey]

16. 5th rec - This could be great!!!

I hope so :7 but I'm also a little :scared:

[onehandle]

17. Yeah. Right. 2006, folks. We need a Democratic Congress.

Get to work.

[Tom Rinaldo]

24. Exactly . New Dems and even have to keep DLC Incumbants

In truth there are some DLC members who I am not that unhappy with, others I am, but the point remains the same regardless. We need to be in the majority for the next Congress. Without that Republicans never would have been able to move against Clinton. Maybe I could back a Weicker in CT, because he will caucus with us, or possibly support a very strong Dem challanger to a DINO in a primary, but we need every vote to put Boxer and Reid in control in January 2007.

[yodermon]

28. Yep.

And 2006 will be a referendum on impeachment.
Public opinion will be such that any repuke NOT calling for impeachment will be electorally liable.
That is, assuming you (we) Get to work indeed.

Keep impeachment and the GOP culture of corruption front and center. Merge the 2 issues. Tar the repukes with chimpy's treason. DO IT.

[lala_rawraw]

18. Up now at Raw, sorry about delay, our site went tech crazy this morning

[myrna minx]

19. Thanks lala.

:hi: This is so exciting!

[lala_rawraw]

20. did you mean this...

:bounce:


:):)

[myrna minx]

25. Yep! and

this :toast: and :bounce: and :woohoo:!! :hi:

[katinmn]

21. Holy Moley!

:hi:

You all are doing GREAT work!

[O.M.B.inOhio]

22. Is this productive? The Repugs love to feel persecuted. It galvanizes them

Christmas is under attack!
Marriage is under attack!

They love to feel that somebody is trying to steal their bone so they can snarl. (even if the only jeopardy to marriage and Christmas comes from their own self-serving hypocrisy.) I'm all for impeachment of the Bush Junta, if we can do it, but I'm fearful that this kind of action will make Republikan voters circle the wagons and forgive all the violations that they are only now starting to come to terms with. Once they feel that their team is under attack,, they tend to get defensive, shortsighted, and mean. I wonder if the best approach is to let these GOP fuckers drown slowly in the wretched filth of their own corruption.

[meganmonkey]

26. Meanwhile, innocent people are DYING every day

because of these bastards.

Call me crazy, but IMO it is about damn time for this to happen.

Fact: Bush has committed impeachable offenses.

Fact: Criminals deserve to pay their dues, not finish out their terms in office.

:shrug:

[O.M.B.inOhio]

29. Impeach the bastards. However...

I'm having some doubt about whether this will hurt the Dems in 06. The Bush ship is gaining water. When defensive Republicans feel that they or the team they feel is theirs is under attack, they get all selfrighteous. They cover their ears and eyes. They go with the party. But they are losing faith with the corrupt GOP. I'm concerned that impeachment procedings (which will never get far with this congress) could undo the disillusionment Republican citizens feel with their so-called representatives. Maybe GOP votes against the impeachment of the King will lok bad for them in 06. But it may backfire bigtime and make Repub voters stick with "their side" in a way that they might not be inclined to do without the attack.

[meganmonkey]

30. Honestly, I am more concerned about the innocent people DYING

than I am about rich corporate-loving politicians on either side of the aisle.

I guess I am different from a lot of people here in that my loyalty to doing what is RIGHT overrides my competitive need to WIN all the time. What is the point of winning if you have to compromise so much to get there? Not worth it to me. Are we more likely to win if we let innocent people die a little longer? Well I'd rather 'lose'.

Peace.

[Talismom]

37. I'm with ya meganmonkey! n/t

[giant_robot]

31. No offense to you, OMB,

but I believe that attitude is why republicans are able to steal elections and impeach democratic presidents over blow jobs. It's time for rightous outrage.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

43. No offense taken. Just sharing a concern...

It's just a concern that it will backfire. The Dems should have fought to challenge the stolen '04 elections (I did!). Congress should never have given THEIR war powers to a lying, cheating, chickenhawk, sociopathic, ignorant corporatre puppet; once Saddam complied with the UN demands (it was all about weapons inspectors and the rhetoric was all about war as a last resort), they should have withdrawn the Executive's power. They should have fought dozens of serious matters that affcet real people's lives. The offenses of this administration deserve first impeachment, then a one-way ticket to The Hague.

That said, the Repugs operate on the illusion of persecution. They're always outraged at how fringe elements are attacking them. It's horse shit (no offense to horses). They're losing support. Exposing individual crimes is allowing citizens to form their own conclusions about the vastness of the corruption. I fear that impeachment will get many (stupidly) defensive.

I hope we can nail them. Impeachment and criminal sentenses that show all the mercy that Freepers show in their posts and Bush policy has exhibited. If there's no impeachment, I hope that those who oppose Conyers get stained by association with the corrupt murderers who illegally occupy the White House. However, the idea that I wish to share here (no offense; I'm not sure I'm convinced) is that American voters, esp. of the right-of-center orientation, do not build their opinions and voting customs upon a succession of facts and a world-view that can be quickly altered when it encounters events that do not comport with it. They act and react emotionally. As it stands, they are FEELING disappointed with the GOP leadership. GOP stands to lose bigtime in 06. But the feeling of being the victim, persecuted by college-educated Washington libruls may fit so comfortably (as it's been their prime motivator in the last 3+ national elections) that it's the thing that ultimately drives their voting. It may breed distrust and resentment of the Democrats stronger than the facts and reason combined. Defensiveness, because their "team" is under attack and because they may feel personally implicated because they themselves voted for Bush. (I hope they'd feel betrayed by *, but I'm fearful that's not how it would play out.) Maybe the Dems are playing into their manipulative hands, even my hero John Conyers. The GOP decline might turn around. And the death of innocents would go on and on.

Hope not. Just less giddy about the timing of this talk of impeachment, which I've been hoping and agitating for for yyyyyeeeaaarrrrs.

[Brundle_Fly]

36. I disagree

this coupled with the Plame leak, the abuses of spying, the corruption, the lies, all adds up.

Although I agree there is a 20% of the populous that will never back down on protecting * there is responsible conservatives that must feel their party is hi-jacked by thugs. The more the merrier I say.

This is a beginning of a much bigger debate, and it has to happen.

[eppur_se_muova]

38. They love to ACT persecuted. Doesn't imply guts for a real fight.

The last thing a bully expects is for somebody to fight back. We need to let the Rethugs know we're ALWAYS going to fight back.

[grytpype]

27. This isn't going to go anywhere because the Repugs will not support it.

I have to question the point of introducing motions for censure and the like that will just be ignored or voted down.

[stop the bleeding]

32. what does Censure mean exactly??? n/t

[Senator]

34. Nothing and A Great Deal

Nothing legally or constitutionally, but a great deal politically and historically.

--
www.january6th.org

[dweller]

35. CBS radio news on AAR

just had a story that the 'I' word is being floated in Congress, mentioning Feinstein and Boxer.

listen up.
dp

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Wow!

This is going along fast!

[The Wielding Truth]

41. Yes, Virginia , this is AMERICA!

[AntiFascist]

42. How convenient that all the MSM can cover is the big air disaster...

(aircraft landing safely on disabled landing gear, no injuries.)

[Nutmegger]

44. Whoo-HOOO!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: