Would anybody be shocked.....

[peaches2003]

Would you be shocked if, when it is discovered who Bush was spying on and listening in to, it turns out it was Dems and other politicos he felt threatened him, and not terrorists at all? There is some reason he refused to go to a court and this is it, IMO. Unfortunately no one in the press will investigate or even propose this as the true scenario.

[Taverner]

1. Wouldn't shock me in the least

BFEE has a history of those kinds of dealings...

[MrBenchley]

2. Not a bit....

[PDJane]

3. Nope.

[Debs]

4. I'm expecting

Quakers, and anti war groups mostly

[Birthmark]

5. Honesty.

I think that's why they aren't backing away. They know if they back down that the subject of "who" is going to come up. By trying to bluster their way through, though, they might just get to keep that secret - and get themselves some spiffy new powers to abuse.

[louis-t]

6. Wouldn't surpise me a bit if * bought his 'master's degree' either.

[fooj]

7. This Homeland Security mantra of his is a bunch of BULLSHIT!

This isn't about terrorism. It's about DISSENT!!

Peace.

[jobycom]

8. I've wondered, that, too. It would make the crime impeachable if he did

Violating a few laws for national security wouldn't be impeachable, but using the power of the presidency for personal political gain is exactly what they were going to impeach Nixon for.

I think there's something more going on. Bush claims there were 30 wiretaps, and that national security was at stake. But getting a warrant wouldn't have compromised security or taken much time for only 30 warrants. WHy would the president himself be approving something that simple and basic? There's something else to this. That's what the Dems sense, too, and that's why they want an investigation.

[fooj]

10. It's about DISSENT...not terrorism, IMO.

Peace.

[BR_Parkway]

15. STOP repeating 30 wiretaps - he had to reauthorize this every 45 days

so he signed the Executive priveledge authorization 30 times during this period.

It's a RW meme that it only happened 30 times - without more info, we don't know that. It could have happened 100,000's of times - something big enough for 12 people to blow the whistle.

[jobycom]

18. Thanks for the clarification. nt.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. Actually, there is historical precident for this

with Nixon's enemies list, and the FBI going after M.L. King. I thought that was one reason some laws were passed after Watergate to KEEP this from happening again.

[Strong Atheist]

11. No shock. I would be surprised if it WASN'T

Dems....

[TheGunslinger]

12. Well, to his benefit, they'll have Arab-sounding names....like

al-Bert

al-Lan

[POAS]

14. You forgot OBAMA

[TankLV]

34. And "John".

[BR_Parkway]

17. Yeah, K-erry and Ed-wards sound pretty middle eastern to me.

So does Wilson, Plame and Kennedy.

[Arugula Latte]

21. not to mention Shee-han

:eyes:

[Jacobin]

25. Oh, and Fitz-Gerald

[davikim]

13. dems and

maybe jounalists?????

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Not only not shocked,

but that is my assumption.

[stop the bleeding]

19. I expect it - everything else about this admin has been like Nixon's

why should this be any different?

[The Magistrate]

20. Not In The Least, Ma'am

It would surprise me somewhat if it had not occured....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[TrogL]

22. Dubya apparently is every bit as paranoid as Nixon

This wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[bigbrother05]

23. Remember when they had to clear

the Senate Hall, several times if I remember correctly,
White powder sent to Tom Daschle, had to close his office.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least, if something was
planted then.

[Th1onein]

24. This was explained already

Someone on here, who is an attorney, already explained this. The reason Bush wasn't willing to go to the court to get the warrants is that the warrants require someone specific to listen in on! Bush spied on EVERYONE, across the board. You can't get a warrant to spy on everyone, or anyone. That's why he said that the authorized it as a method to "DETECT" not "MONITOR"!

This is an important point. Please pass it on!

[MichiganVote]

26. Aren't the Dem's the terrorists in the eyes of Republicans?

[wiley]

27. It's as if you think * is running things

It's a big, corrupt Republican Party that thinks they are an elite class above the law, fending only for those who they feel deserving of access and power - i.e. not those scummy poor people or hourly wage earners or the "brown ones".

[lumpy]

28. Kick

No doubt

[RobbinsdaleDem]

29. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Strawman]

30. If it takes a little lawbreaking to do God's work, so be it

After all God handpicked * to rule you know. We wouldn't want any silly little thing like democracy fucking up the Lord's Master plan now would we?

:sarcasm:

[zulchzulu]

31. I'm sure someone in Bush campaign actually did spy on Kerry campaign

You know they did. Absolute power and drunken lust to destroy Kerry with the full blown corruption within the Bush campaign to spy on the "enemy" and use the Patriot Act as an excuse is EXACTLY the kind of dirty Nixonian politics that these guys would do. Hell, half of the sons of bitches worked for Nixon.

Investigations are in due order immediately.

[Hello_Kitty]

32. Not at all

We already know the FBI monitors anti-war groups. Plus, as easy as it was for them to get the warrants they needed, why didn't they? And we all know they don't give a shit about protecting us from terrorists. Never have, never will.

[TankLV]

33. Oh I thought of this and believed this is the ONLY "target" of these

criminals!

[TankLV]

35. Oh - I forgot - "HI" Agent Mike!

Happy Holidays - I mean "merry xmas" - opps - "christmas" - sorry, didn't mean to use all lower case letters...(I'd better stop digging the hole now)...