DU this poll on Murtha

[quaoar]

http://www.wjactv.com/station/1960993/detail.html

It's being freeped and needs some help.

[PDittie]

1. Yes 52 No 48

Let's move that in the proper (not the right) direction.

[Wilms]

2. done. n/t

[skooooo]

3. 53% yes now

[LibinMo]

4. Done

Do you agree with Congressman Murtha that U.S. troops should be pulled from Iraq immediately?
2231 Votes
Yes 1166 52%
No 1065 48%

[frogmarch]

6. done

Yes 53%
No 47%

[still_one]

5. they are twisting the resolution that Murtha said

the question is NOT accurate

[esvhicl]

7. done n/t

[mtowngman]

8. Done

Yes-1265
No-1101

[tandot]

9. done

Yes 1279 54%
No 1104 46%

I have the same problem with a Sacramento, CA poll. Here 40% say yes. Unf*ckingbelievable

[win_in_06]

10. Done

[BeatleBoot]

11. Murtha Never Said "Immediately"

Lazy reporting on the part of that news organization.

[Erika]

12. done n/t

[Raffi Ella]

13. Done

55% yes to 45% No.

[KarenS]

14. Done!!

Do you agree with Congressman Murtha that U.S. troops should be pulled from Iraq immediately?
2652 Votes
Yes 1466 55%
No 1186 45%

[otohara]

15. done

[andlor]

16. done

[Vidar]

17. done 59 41

[williesgirl]

18. done - 59% yes as of now n/t

[skipos]

19. 59

[unkachuck]

20. done

[leftofthedial]

21. 59-41

[emdee]

22. Yes, 59% No, 41% n/t

n/t

[UDenver20]

23. done. kick.

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. done & kicked....

:kick:

[Amonester]

25. Done.

Votes 4027
Yes 2428 60%
No 1599 40%

:thumbsup:

No More Turning Away

[quaoar]

26. Yes is at 60% now

Yes 2447 60%
No 1608 40%

[laugle]

27. 60% yes 40% no--Murtha said 6 months not immediately, this is bullshit

BTW what the hell is channel 6? Where is it located? Red neck USA no doubt.....

[Digit]

29. I agree, he said over a six month period

I hate polls that skew the question

[quaoar]

39. WJAC

is the NBC affiliate for Johnstown/Altoona/State College, Pennsylvania

[dae]

28. done, 60% Yes; 40% No.

[NVMojo]

30. KICK!

Do you agree with Congressman Murtha that U.S. troops should be pulled from Iraq immediately?
Choice Votes Percentage of 4139 Votes
Yes 2513 61%
No 1626 39%

[Renegade Paladin]

31. The poll question is wrong anyway.

Murtha didn't propose to pull out immediately; that's a Republican strawman. His bill said to pull out as soon as is practicable, not to pull out immediately. The Republicans are trying to make everyone think that Hunter's bill is Murtha's, and it seems to be working. Dammit.

[strizi64]

32. done. 61 - 39

[AtomicKitten]

33. It's a bogus question.

The Murtha proposal doesn't advocate pulling troops out IMMEDIATELY.
They are confusing that with the counterfeit Murtha proposal put up by the Republicans that was voted on.

[tsuki]

34. Push Poll. Not even enough self respect to frame the question

correctly. Is your station a Fox Affiliate?

My email.

[quaoar]

40. The station

is the NBC affiliate in central Pennsylvania. It is in Murtha's district.

[tsuki]

44. Interesting. But the poll is still not an accurate portrayal of

Murtha's proposal.

[Cerridwen]

35. The question is invalid. I wrote an email informing them of such.

(with thanks to DUer Lex who posted the 2 resolutions "side-by-side" here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5402127



Your survey question (listed and linked below) is invalid. You have attributed Republican Duncan Hunter's resolution to Democratic Congressmember Murtha. See text of each resolution below.

Do you agree with Congresman Murtha that U.S. troops should be pulled from Iraq immediately?

http://www.wjactv.com/station/1960993/detail.html


-----------------


The Hunter resolution:


RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that
the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces
in Iraq be terminated immediately.

-------------------------

Murtha's resolution:

Whereas Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote the emergence of a democratic government";

Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U, S. military forces cannot be achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U S. troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft;

Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;

Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;

Whereas U.S. forces have become the target of the insurgency,

Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80% of the Iraqi people want U.S. forces out of Iraq;

Whereas polls also indicate that 45% of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks on U.S. forces are justified;

Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S. military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action;

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That:

Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S Marines shall be deployed in the region.

Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.


----------------------------

[graywarrior]

36. done

[zann725]

37. Done! And it's still 60%, pro- Murtha!

Here's hoping one day Freepers' will become as extinct as Dinosaurs. And that future generations looking back will say, 'They thought WHAT?! With brains THIS small? No wonder!'

[Ian David]

38. Done. 60%. But the question is misleading.

Do you agree with Congressman Murtha that U.S. troops should be pulled from Iraq immediately?
Choice Votes Percentage of 4450 Votes
Yes 2662 60%
No 1788 40%

Murtha didn't call for an immediate withdrawal.

Murtha called for a staged redeployment "At the earliest practicable date."

It was the Republicans calling for immediate withdrawal.

[quaoar]

42. Yes, it's misleading, but the poll is in Murtha's district

So misleading or not, he needs our help.

[FearofFutility]

47. How is reinforcing a distortion of his resolution

helping him?:shrug:

[Acryliccalico]

41. Done

:kick:

[sonias]

43. done

I'm backing Murtha.
60% Yes right now.

Sonia

[Roland99]

45. EMAIL that station and demand they correct that poll!!

That is NOT what Murtha said!


I just emailed them with this:


I am writing re: your poll on your website located:
http://www.wjactv.com/station/1960993/detail.html

What kind of question is that? You are feeding the deception by misrepresenting the statements of Rep. Murtha.

Your poll implies a full and unconditional withdrawl from Iraq of U.S. troops. Rep. Murtha's statements were a REDEPLOYMENT of troops to Kuwait and other areas outside of Iraq so they could be redeployed back to Iraq quickly if needed.

I respectfully request you reword your misleading poll question.

[FearofFutility]

46. I'm curious to know how many of you

who voted in this poll thought the Dems shouldn't have voted last night? If you are among those who thought they shouldn't have voted because it was BS, why would you vote in this poll? It's BS, too! Once again, Murtha did not call for immediate withdrawal of our troops.

[quaoar]

48. This TV station is in Murtha's district

Misleading or not, it will be reported in his district as an indicator of public opinion.

So we can get indignant at the fact that it is misleading and refuse to vote, or we can step up and help Congressman Murtha in this small way.

[FearofFutility]

50. I just don't see how this helps him

Encouraging people to flood this tv station with emails to get them to change the poll question would make much more sense.

[quaoar]

52. Why not do both?

[Boo Boo]

53. We know he didn't call for immediate withdrawal, but the only

answer to this question is yes. If the Repub position is that the only resolution they are willing to consider is one calling for immediate withdrawal, then so be it. Bring 'em home. Staying the course is not an option. By trying to tie the Repub "all or nothing" option to Murtha, they are trying to discredit Murtha and short-circuit the debate---so by answering "yes" we support Murtha and continue the debate.

Ideally, the Repubs would be made to understand that Dems aren't going to play games with this issue. If the Repubs offer a resolution calling for immediate withrawal, then the Dems should vote for it en masse. When somebody is obviously bluffing (and that's what the Repubs were doing) the only thing to do is call their bluff. The Repubs would then know that if just a handful of their caucus flips, the resolution could very well pass, and they won't do it again.

Dems should have voted for the Repub resolution unanimously and then issued a statement saying that, while Democrats have not called for immediate withrawal, if the only choice Republicans are willing consider is between staying the course and immediate withdrawal then it's time to withdraw, because the current policy has failed.

Talking point: "Staying the course is not an option."

[Orion The Hunter]

49. Done - eom

[Greyhound]

51. Done and done. n/t

[npincus]

54. done