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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:54 PM
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Joe Biden is an Idiot!
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 05:07 PM by AmericanDream
Well, that is no news. But here's a latest one from him:


Former Sen John Edwards of North Carolina rcently said his vote to authorize the war was a mistake. Biden's reaction:
"I think he did make a mistake. He voted for the war and against funding it, I think that was a mistake.

"The only regret I had voting for the war is that i never anticipated how incompetent the administration would be in using the authority we gave them to avoid war.

"Everyone kind of second-guesses us right now and I realize there is big pressure on Sen. Edwards, and me and anyone seeking the nomination because 80 percent of the Democrats say, leave now, basically, or get the troops out ... what I look at is how is it going to look like in 2008, not 2006. So if we pull out in 2006, prematurely, when there's still some possibility of succeeding, if we pull out of Iraq in 2006, and it devolves into the civil war I fear ... then what happens when that terror is exported, which I guarantee it will be -- and by the way, it never existed before. ... the idea that Iraq was exporting terror, was an Islamist base was simply not true. It's become that. We've attracted them just like Afghanistan attracted them."

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No, Senator Biden, Edwards' mistake wasn't what you pointed out; instead it was voting for the war in the first place as he unambiguously stated. A) Quit twisting the words of those democrats who've seen the light. B) So you regret that Bush is incompetent, but you don't regret giving him the power to put his incompetence into practice? C) Stop backstabbing democrats who are finally giving democrats the voice of an opposition party. But, you've done this before to the likes of Dean... so, nevermind.

In case anyone is looking for a douchebag... we have many in the US Congress and one of them is Joe Biden. Which party's nomination is he running for, btw?

Full Interview: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05320/606897.stm
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:55 PM
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1. i dont like biden.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:01 PM
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7. Neither do I
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:57 PM
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2. Don't be so hard on Joe!
He always gets it half right. He's a half-wit rather than a nitwit.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:58 PM
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3. Don't worry. Tomorrow, he'll say it was a mistake and won't
admit to having dissed Edwards for saying the same thing.

All the Dem windblowers are just trying to figure out how to distance themselves for this clusterfuck they enabled with more and more nuanced positions.

Fun to watch the rats scatter.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:59 PM
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4. Yep, Biden is running for President !
Does he have the cajones to go after Hillary now :rofl:

Do you have the link? I remember reading something like this on DKos earlier today, but forgot their attribution to the Edwards slam :(
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:00 PM
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5. Joe must not want to be president.
Because he is on the wrooooooong train, baby.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:00 PM
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6. yea but he's OUR idiot
better than any republican I can see
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:01 PM
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8. He did the same thing to Kerry during the campaign!!!
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 05:02 PM by Mass
(I mean once Kerry was the nominee).

And now, he is running, so dont be surprised.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:09 PM
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10. He was far too much an egotist to be a good surrogate
I couldn't believe that he chose simply to say Kerry's position was wrong on the 2nd vote on funding and that he voted for it. It wouldn't have taken much to explain that Kerry wanted oversight and for it to be paid for by delaying the tax cut for very high income people.

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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:11 PM
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11. Exactly. Ego is the man's problem.. no one loves joe as much as joe
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:12 PM
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13. Anyway, he campaigns saying the Dems have to show they are not
The party of the homosexuals, of abortion, and of atheists, and that he is the good choice for that.

Thanks, no thanks!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:04 PM
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9. I second that emotion


:thumbsup:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:11 PM
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12. He's worse than an idiot, he's a self-important prick
who forgot why he got elected in the first place - to SERVE the citizens of Delaware and the Democrats in America. Not to serve MBNA and whoever will plaster his mug on television and listen to his bullshit.

Was he asked if he was running in '08 again? He Loooooves answering THAT question.:puke:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:17 PM
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14. The only real shame about Biden running...
... for president is that it won't cost the `pugs any money to shoot him down... he'll do that very nicely on his own--on his own dime.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:36 PM
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15. I used to love watching him and Kennedy go
after people in the hearings, like when Rehnquist was nominated for Supreme Court, but he does seem hopelessly stuck in some outdated mind-set.

He should have been an actor. He has great smile and expressions.

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:55 PM
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16. Biden-Lieberman '08!
Damn, that makes ME ill...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:30 PM
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17. From DKos....
Joe Biden: Edwards is Mistaken, but I'm Not
by DavidNYC http://superribbie.dailykos.com/
Wed Nov 16, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM PDT
From today's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:


Former Sen John Edwards of North Carolina rcently said his vote to authorize the war was a mistake. Biden's reaction:

"I think he did make a mistake. He voted for the war and against funding it, I think that was a mistake.


Sigh... so if Edwards had voted for both things, then it wouldn't have been a mistake? And yet, Biden manages to very nearly contradict himself with his very next statement:


"The only regret I had voting for the war is that I never anticipated how incompetent the administration would be in using the authority we gave them to avoid war.

Oh no - but this is not a "mistake." This is merely a "regret." It's espcially frustrating to see Biden unwilling to make the same admission as Edwards, considering there is actually not that much daylight between their two stances. Consider the following recent remarks:

Biden:


He said the American people are starting to "catch on" that they were at least partially "snookered and tricked," though he said that's not the administration's greatest failing.

Edwards:


The argument for going to war with Iraq was based on intelligence that we now know was inaccurate. The information the American people were hearing from the president - and that I was being given by our intelligence community - wasn't the whole story. Had I known this at the time, I never would have voted for this war.

Back to that Post-Gazette interview, we see where Biden is actually coming from. Sigh again... he imagines that there is still some "possibility of succeeding."

"Everyone kind of second-guesses us right now and I realize there is big pressure on Sen. Edwards, and me and anyone seeking the nomination because 80 percent of the Democrats say, leave now, basically, or get the troops out ... what I look at is how is it going to look like in 2008, not 2006. So if we pull out in 2006, prematurely, when there's still some possibility of succeeding, if we pull out of Iraq in 2006, and it devolves into the civil war I fear ... then what happens when that terror is exported, which I guarantee it will be -- and by the way, it never existed before. ... the idea that Iraq was exporting terror, was an Islamist base was simply not true. It's become that. We've attracted them just like Afghanistan attracted them."

This point of view makes Biden sound like he's living in two-years-ago land. I guess some people just get so invested in the decisions they make that they simply can't admit their mistakes.

==============oy!

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:54 PM
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18. Biden brings nothing to the Dem Party except..
a nice smile. His chances of being nominated are maybe 1%.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:57 PM
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19. Good call...
Glad DU is *only* 3 years away, huh?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:58 PM
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20. Who cares what Biden thinks or says?
Scuzz ball!
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