If you want to understand Freeps, check out this on the bombing of Dresden

[funflower]

Not one single drop of sympathy for the children who died in that firestorm.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512316/posts

[Why Syzygy]

1. I'll pass

don't want to understand them at all. Already know too much as it is.

[snowbear]

2. I'll take a pass too.. but I take your word on it.. Freepers suck !!

They sit around on their overly-ample pale asses complaining about what they want in "their dirty little world"

I'll read the posts when someone drags em over here.. but no visiting that cockroach infested, racist, hate monger site for me..

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

3. Jesus. I'm sorry I looked.

[Nostradammit]

6. Love Love LOVE that graphic!!!

Something about the combination of your screen name and that illustration just chokes me up ~


Oh yeah, and the freepers are stupid.

[snowbear]

8. Yeah, me too... great graphic! Just thought of something..

Wouldn't it be kewl to see Rove trying to hang onto that "W", but with the rough seas, show him about to sink right down with the W? http://eliteleague.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/lol!.gif

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

10. Thanks, man!

[Fenris]

4. Choice selections:

"Yes, it's very easy for Monday Morning Quarterbacks who have access to all the information after the fact to make judgement calls on what happens during a war."

"My old man flew fighter escort on a few of the thousand-bomber raids, and I am proud that he did. The bestial Huns deserved all they got and then some."

"Either Keegan hasn't educated himself on that bombing, or he's another slippery neo-Nazi propagandist. There were quite a few military manufacturing and transportation facilities in Dresden. It was a military hub.

...tired of seeing such propaganda from neo-Nazis, Islamists and their other socialist friends, and to shed tears for their losses is to expose oneself as being one of them.

Or maybe Keegan is just squishy enough to think that if we wish the leaders of evil empires would "just get along," that they would."

It should be noted here that John Keegan, eminent British historian, has said that he is in favor of the current military undertakings of the United States - hardly 'squishy'.

"Boo (friggen) HOO!

Spare me the crocodile tears and whining, Krauts.

We Americans wound up rebuilding your ungrateful country spending hard earned American money.

Perhaps you will think twice the next time you want to rule the world."

The irony in that last sentence is painful.

"We should have a do-over of Dresden somewhere in the ME tomorrow, it doesn't really matter where, just total annihilation to let everyone know WE are now at war. We'd still be hated, but unlike now we would be feared and perhaps even respected."

[SammyBlue]

5. This line pisses me off

"We should have a do-over of Dresden somewhere in the ME tomorrow, it doesn't really matter where, just total annihilation to let everyone know WE are now at war. We'd still be hated, but unlike now we would be feared and perhaps even respected."

Okay, Freep. . .we fought the Nazis to stop countries from doing this.

Perhaps you will think twice the next time you want to rule the world.

Does that include us and you neo-con, neo-nazi fascist assholes???

Spare me the crocodile tears and whining, Krauts.

Hmmm. . .that's what the Nazis said when they gassed my Jewish brethren.

I am not one who doesn't think the firebombing of Drezden was wrong. Unfortunately, war kills the guilty and the innocent. 78 members of my family were killed in the Holocaust. Both Grandfathers and my uncle faught in WW2 (two in Europe, one in the Pacific).

Freeps are amazing. . .they rail against what the nazis did, then have no problems saying it's good for us to do the same things and then excuse the tactics. Imagine if Gore was president and he did what Bush has done.

We'd never hear the end of it. Sad, narrow minded, bigoted, intolerant group of unhappy choads.

[funflower]

15. OMG. 78 Holocaust victims in your family. That's unimaginable.

:cry:

[fudge stripe cookays]

7. More irony:

Pardon me if I don't feel sorry about what happened to a country that voluntarily decided to follow one of the most evil men in history and whose citizens would have gladly subjugated all the free world, and killed tens of millions of "non-desirables."

Guess pretty much the rest of the world will be saying that about us in a few years, huh buddy?

fsc

[snowbear]

9. Hey fudge stripe...

Off-topic for a second.. but I was just nibbling on a fudge-stripe cookie while I've been reading this board!

MMmMMMmm

[JohnnyRingo]

13. I saw that too.... If the war had gone the other way

Dresden would have gained world sympathy as a war crime. That's why generals at the time distanced themselves from it.

These freeps would have followed Der Fuhrer to the gates of hell had they been there at the time. (For the "Fatherland" of course)

Dresden would have been their 9/11.
What a bunch of hypocritical chickenhawks.

[chat_noir]

23. Robert McNamara "Fog of War"

Robert McNamara: LeMay said, "If we lost the war, we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals". And I think he's right.

Robert McNamara: He, and I'd say I, were behaving as war criminals.

Robert McNamara: LeMay recognised that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side had lost. But what makes it immoral if you lose, and not immoral if you win?

[tahoedenver]

27. War itself is evil

And McNamara was an Eichmann or a Himmler for the Johnson Administration. His senseless and murderous policies in Vietnam led to massive civilian casualities. His lack of planning and ineptness also led to the deaths of 60,000 Americans. Not to mention the millions of Vietnamese who were killed. We could have corrected this entire problem before it happened had the Truman Administration given the Vietnamese their freedom after WW2 instead of letting the imperialists try and retake their "colony." This is just another example of 20th Century racism and of "White Man's Burden." The view that only white man is capable of ruling himself. It's like Woodrow Wilson and his racist policies regarding WW1 and it's aftermath and the handing of one authoritarian master's power, Imperial Germany, to another racist bigoted regime, the British Empire. The idea that black Africans could not have their own democracy because of their skin color is just another example of the racist demagoguery that prevailed in our foreign policy prior to the 1980's. And even today we still continue bigoted policies toward many peoples of the world.

[JohnnyRingo]

28. Though it ammounts to men doing "what they had to do" to win....

The current adinistration has gone beyond that....to do "whatever they can" to win

[tahoedenver]

29. I agree

Except we're not really fighting a war any more. We're policing. Nation-building. A failed policy of the Clinton Administration that the equally inept Bush Administration continues - except on a worse scale.

[Javaman]

30. Read about LaMay sometime, he was a war criminal...

His firebombing of Tokyo and Hamburg come to mind, but also his outrageous want to use Atomic Bombs in the Korean war. Fortunately, smarter minds prevailed there.

[Why Syzygy]

16. Oh. you had to go post that ... oh well .. nt

[funflower]

18. Who's your avatar?

:shrug:

[fudge stripe cookays]

22. I believe it's from a Holbein painting.

But I can't remember the subject. I think it's two navigator looking guys.

fsc
ex art history major

[Fenris]

24. Thomas More

;)

[fudge stripe cookays]

25. Thank you!

I'm getting a little rusty in my old age.

fsc

[SoKalKyle]

11. One of the many annoying things

About Freepers and Repukes is they think that as long as we are not as bad as the other guys then we are OK. If you bring up dead civilians in Iraq they rebut by saying "Well, Saddam killed hundreds of thousands..". If you talk about torture " Well they cut off people's heads, all we did was humiliate and electrocute them". And of course "Well, we didn't fly planes into buildings killing three thousand innocents".

It makes me ill. As long as we are not as bad as the 'evil-doers' then we are still the good guys. The problem is the 'evil-doers' will always be worse, especially when you include all of history. That is not what the U.S. is supposed to be about. The Bible does not say "Thou shalt not murder more than the other guy does" (not that I give any credence to the Bible, but they do). Our laws don't punish the guy that kills the most and lets all the others off the hook.

Coulter said more of the same about our own dead on a show earlier in the weekend when she said something like "oh, 2000 dead is nothing compared to Viet Nam or WW2". Of course it isn't!

Let's set the bar nice and high -- as long as we don't kill as many people as Stalin we can kill with impunity -- go ahead have at 'em! As long as we don't torture as many people as Hitler and as long as we don't use Zyclon B we'll be ok in our own eyes....

"The destruction of Dresden was insufficient punishment for the bombing of Coventry, London, and Warsaw; not to mention the murders and brutality in the concentration camps" -Freeper

Sheesh, don't these people have souls? We are supposed to be civilized and better than our enemies. That is what the US is supposed to be about -- a model for the world not: 'not as evil as they are". Maybe that should be our new national motto "Not as evil as the evil-doers".Put it on our money....

[snowbear]

12. It seems to me... Freepers think with only a "group mentality"

Do they ever think for themselves?

Or do they ban them for that?

[funflower]

17. When we "do evil," we harm ourselves as well as our victim.

The fact that Saddam or Hitler did worse doesn't change a thing.

[Why Syzygy]

19. Eye for an eye?

Don't the freepers claim to adhere to "christianity", and thier "Lord" said, that doesn't work any more. Forget about it.

They are worse than neanderthals. No better than the suicide bombers who give their lives for the sake of destruction.

Enlightenment, People! Wake Up! Hello!

[tahoedenver]

14. Anybody Who Advocates The Napalming of Dresden Advocates Mass Murder

This new 35,000 casuality number is a goddamn joke. It is a revisionist number. There were anywhere from 100,000 to 300,000 people murdered in *one week* in Dresden. I don't know who launched those air strikes but they should have been lined up on the wall and shot or hanged along with the likes of the murderous fascist scum that were executed after Nuremberg.

My grandmother is from Saxony. To this day I have little sympathy for the British when they fuck up or lose esteem in the world. Fuck, they enslaved a third of the planet and murdered hundreds of thousands of my countrymen in their bombing raids. And yes, I know the Nazi pigs did it as well but what the fuck do you expect from Nazis? If any of those pilots are still alive they should be tried in the Hague for mass murder. What happened on that day is no different than what happened during the Holocaust. The people who ordered that bombing were monsters on par with Saddam, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao and they should be put on trial for their war crimes as far as I'm concerned.

[Selatius]

20. The fucking war was all but over when Dresden was firebombed

It was a pointless mission. Leveling the city did not change the fact that most of Germany lay in ruins; the Wehrmacht was all but crushed; Hitler was confined to his bunker in Berlin with the Russians pounding on his door; and the Allies were closing in from the west. The final outcome of the war was already assured. There was no need for the city's destruction.

[shenmue]

21. Ugh

All the replies were idiotic. Of course.

Particularly strange was this one:

"Frankly, I wish we could see the same happen to a couple of Moslem cities."

Wow. Not even specific. Just as long as they have Muslims in them!

:grr:

:dunce:

:freak:

I don't even know enough swear words in English to express how nasty people like that are.

[tahoedenver]

26. You see the type of ilk who operate in that party

<[I don't even know enough swear words in English to express how nasty people like that are.>]

These people are like Saddam. They have vicious freaks of nature who have no place in civilized society. They advocate mass murder and genocide. They are advocates of evil and authoritarian oppression.

[tahoedenver]

31. Too bad, I started busting their anti-German racist bubble

But then my replies to all the hate-filled messages were deleted by some racist moderator. Probably thinks bombing innocent Iraqis is okay and completely justified.

Fucking pigs.

[ArkDem]

32. Looks kind of like us talking about Christians.....

[PassingFair]

33. What?

Ahhhh, poor, persecuted Christians! Where did THAT come from?

:eyes:

[ArkDem]

34. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2208133&mesg_id=2208461

[PassingFair]

35. But,

what the heck does that have to do with Dresden?

[ArkDem]

36. Just pointing out that freepers don't have the market on

ignorant posts totally cornered.