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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:17 PM
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Republicans don't represent Christianity
I think people have a hard time seperating the actual religion and the Republicans attempting to hijack it. What the Republicans are trying to do is reprehensible. They are trying to combine the religion with their fascist ideology to divide this country and some people are playing right into their hands by defining Christianity by their standards. Just like the terrorists hijack Islam for their twisted hatred, Republicans are hijacking Christianity with an ultra-conservative, anti-freedom brand of thinking. Dobson, Robertson and Falwell are poisoning people's minds. I think all of us need to step back a minute and realize Christianity isn't full of hatred, that it's just a desperate fringe political force playing a very dangerous game with beliefs that people hold sacred. I don't want to get blasted for this, but I think that needed to be pointed out.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:17 PM
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1. Oh, sure, that's apparent now.
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:22 PM
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2. When somebody has to TELL me they're a Christian...
I'm careful to watch out.

The truth is coming out.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:49 PM
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8. I'm also wary of people that seem to feel it's important
to point out that they are republican.

:wtf:

Why is that necessary?

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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:10 AM
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10. Yeah same here...
To me its like "Hey man, i gotta gun, wanna see it?" ha, not really, but basically thats how i feel...i watch them very carefully...:)
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:49 PM
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19. AYE. nt
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:23 PM
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3. No, but they have certainly taken it hostage and kept it blindfolded.
n/t
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:25 PM
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4. I think it's more that the fundamentalists have hijacked the GOP...
I understand how liberal and moderate Christians also feel they are being marginalized by the fundamentalists who try to represent themselves as the only authentic Christians.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:28 PM
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5. I treat born-agains
just like any plague.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:46 AM
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13. And that means liberals too?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:45 AM
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12. Yep
Remember earlier this year with that church in North Carolina? The so-called preacher kicked out anyone who voted for democrats. :eyes: I'm so tired of all these people on the right saying that us liberals who are Christians aren't really Christian. My comment to that is Cheney off.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:43 PM
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6. What I want to know
is HOW does one legislate Christan morality? Are there going to be prayer police knocking on doors to see if we are genuflecting enough? This is why our founding fathers (may God Bless them as they turn in their graves) gave this county separation of church and state.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:45 PM
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7. Like Barry Goldwater said
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 09:45 PM by KingFlorez
You can't legislate morals, although he said it for more intolerant reasons. You can't change how society lives or thinks through the law
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:47 AM
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14. Ooo very nice
I'll have to save that quote!
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:59 PM
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9. "trying to"... "attempting to"... "fringe political force..."
I think it's gone WAY beyond that. It seems to be a done deal by now. The thing's been hijacked already, what was once the fringe is now the face.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:44 AM
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11. Oh of course
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 12:47 AM by FreedomAngel82
And this Christian totally agree's. If you read through the gospel books (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) he (Jesus) never tried to change his government. He instead tried to change people's hearts. He talked a lot about helping the poor and not about "saving the babies". :eyes: But thanks for pointing it out! Jesus was about love like "loving thy neighbor as yourself" and "turn the other cheek".
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 03:44 AM
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15. It's called g-o-p not g-o-d.
So now whose with me in launching a counter protest against the rwingers. I am not talking about the people in the pews am talking about the phelps, dobson, and fawells and picketing and protesting them for a change? Anyone with me?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:00 AM
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16. When, in the past 1700 years, has Christianity not been ...
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 06:01 AM by Neil Lisst
... not been associated with a repressive political ruler?

Since Constantine decided it was the religion of his empire, there have been invaders and human rights offenders flying high the flag of Christianity.

Crusades, Columbus, Hitler, most of the Popes, both Bushes ... to name a few.

I agree that the right has hijacked Christianity, but Christianity has been the safe haven of those who love killing for a long time.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:43 PM
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17. Hitler had a deep disdain for xtians....
even though he remained a catholic and used xtianity as a ploy for the masses. Ever hear of the Thule Society? The forerunner to the Nazi party?These guys were NO christian worshippers. Eastern mysticism, Germanic mythology mixed with elements of the occult wrought everything from their use of the swastika to the parties hierarchical structure. Hitler himself wished his own country practised Islam, as he would have found their belief system more easily molded.

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:49 PM
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20. Very true. nt
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:48 PM
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18. It's apparent, yeah,
but that doesn't make me like Christianity any more. I just have an objection to organized religion (CULTS) in the first place, especially the shit the fundies preach.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:51 PM
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21. Old Testament Despots....
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 12:53 PM by WCGreen
With a little bit of Jesus sprinkled over top just to get to Revelation...

Making what could have been a beautiful and wonderful guidepost to life, a quest for the material goods for the few and a false sense of salvation for the many....
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