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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:47 AM
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"An angry President Bush made his displeasure known to Karl"
WASHINGTON - An angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair, sources told the Daily News. "He made his displeasure known to Karl," a presidential counselor told The News. "He made his life miserable about this."

Bush has nevertheless remained doggedly loyal to Rove, who friends and even political adversaries acknowledge is the architect of the President's rise from baseball owner to leader of the free world.

As special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald nears a decision, perhaps as early as today, on whether to issue indictments in his two-year probe, Bush has already circled the wagons around Rove, whose departure would be a grievous blow to an already shell-shocked White House staff and a President in deep political trouble.

Asked if he believed indictments were forthcoming, a key Bush official said he did not know, then added: "I'm very concerned it could go very, very badly." "Karl is fighting for his life," the official added, "but anything he did was done to help George W. Bush. The President knows that and appreciates that."

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/357107p-304312c.html





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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:49 AM
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1. One can tell that they're protecting Bush.
They're not even bothering to defend Rove anymore--simply throwing him to the dogs. These past weeks must have been miserable for the folks at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. :rofl:
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andino Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:52 AM
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3. SO HE KNEW!?!?!?!?
"An angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair, sources told the Daily News. "He made his displeasure known to Karl," a presidential counselor told The News. "He made his life miserable about this.""

He knew?

I think THAT should be the bigger story here.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:56 AM
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6. Yes, he knew, and he "discussed an ongoing investigation"...
Press Briefing by Scott McClellan

October 17, 2005

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/2005101...

Q Is Karl Rove here at the White House working today? And if indictments were to come down in the special prosecutor's case, is there a contingency plan to replace someone such as Mr. Rove or Mr. Libby, who hold enormous positions within this administration?

MR. McCLELLAN: Karl is here at the White House doing his duties, as he always does. And in terms of your question about any contingency planning, I'm not going to get into prejudging any outcome of the investigation. The investigation is ongoing at this time, and that would be speculating about outcomes of the investigation. I'm just not going to do that. As you heard, the President responded to that question earlier today, as well.

Q In the cutaway shots from the Oval Office event, since I was not pool today, I did not see Mr. Rove. But in previous events such as that, he's typically in that kind of a meeting.

MR. McCLELLAN: No, he does not typically attend meetings with world leaders.

Q If the status changes -- if either Rove or Libby were to get a target letter, would you inform us?

MR. McCLELLAN: Terry, those are questions that need to be directed to the special prosecutor or others, not the White House.

Q No, I'm just saying, if either of those gentlemen receive a target --

Q Well, they work here --

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry, who is saying what? Ed, I think that you've heard us talk about this. There's an ongoing investigation. And we're not going to comment on that investigation while it's ongoing. The special prosecutor's office has asked us to not get into discussing the case while it's ongoing. And that's why the best way to help this case move forward is to refer questions like that to the special prosecutor.

Now there are individuals that have lawyers that represent them, as well, and you can reach out to those individuals, too. But it's not -- we wouldn't necessarily know here at the White House what letters or information goes out from the special prosecutor.

Q But you wouldn't make a commitment, though, if you found out, to disclose it here to the press?

MR. McCLELLAN: I will do my part to help the investigation proceed forward. And doing our part means not commenting on it here from this podium.

Q So that's a "no," is that correct?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, you can talk to the special prosecutor.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:57 AM
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8. oops
their attempt to defend Bush actually outs him as a liar.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:13 AM
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13. oh the liars didnt think of that one. oops. yes they are saying he knew
and still denied it publicly even saying he would 'fire the leaker' and 'find who leaked'.
they are admitting he is a filthy liar

maybe in lieu of having to admit he is a traitor.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:52 AM
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2. In other words, Junior** knew two years ago.
And has been deceiving the American people at least that long.

NGU.


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:07 AM
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28. the Helene Thomas questions: Why doesn't the Pres. speak with Rove?
And get some answers!!!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:53 AM
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4. Bleeding and Reeling...the Mad Bush is close to life support
They contracted some weird disease called Loloitis which disturbs clear thinking years ago and its now manifesting in its final form...

Madness....these guys are clutching at straws...
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:56 AM
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5. Bush has a habit of supporting criminals
there's a whole list of them.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:56 AM
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7. Will we now see George & Karl (with Billy Kristol in between)holding hands
as they board the Royal Helicopter?

This story sounds like the gang is taking a page from Bill and Hillary's damage control--the famous footage of the Clintons walking holding hands, with Chelsea between her parents. That was around the time that we were told that Hillary had given him hell over Monica.

How unoriginal. Get a clue, Karl. (And if you're gonna imitate the Clintons, how 'bout starting with something like their PEACE AND PROSPERITY????)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:57 AM
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9. What a crock!
He gave him Hi Fives. "You're doin' a heckuva job, Rover!" I don't think Rove could tie his shoes without tacit approval from the two-headed Bush/Cheney beast.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:59 AM
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10. So let me get this straight: Karl assured * he had nothing to do with it
and the pretzeldent YELLED at him?

Yeah, okay...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:01 AM
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11. But he said he would fire anyone that was involved.
Are you now telling us that he knew two years ago that Rove was involved and let him stay anyways? Did Bush lie to us?
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:40 AM
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17. W would never lie to us
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:04 AM
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12. I guess "loyalty and cronyism" trumps "treason"...
but if Bush knew, couldn't that be obstruction of justice?

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:21 AM
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14. Is it the beginning of the end? (CBS opinion)
Below is a short commentary from CBS news, the behavior between the Nixon and Bush White Houses seem eerily similar.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/17/opinion/schie...

Even as Watergate was at the boiling point, the Nixon White House maintained it was never a distraction to the president and his people. "The press may be consumed by it," they always said, "but we have more important things to do: running the government."

Once the famous tapes came out, of course, we all knew otherwise. Nixon and his people had been thinking of little but Watergate and how to cover their tracks.

Which is why White House press secretary Scott McClellan's words about the current investigation into who blew the cover of that secret agent for the CIA had such a familiar ring. "The White House doesn't have time to let these things distract us from the important work at hand," he said.

Oh, sure. A special prosecutor is bearing down, the president's top people are being called before a federal grand jury on a regular basis four times so far for Karl Rove the investigation has revealed a vicious secret war between the White House and the CIA over who should take the blame for the wrong intelligence that took us to war, and it's just another day in the office?

Maybe preoccupation with all of this is why nothing seems to be going right at the White House anymore. As for this investigation, it looks like it's coming to a conclusion, but watching the White House reaction makes me wonder: Is this story just beginning?


By Bob Schieffer
MMV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:29 AM
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15. If nothing else, maybe they will do less OTHER damage as they
panic and fret over THIS damage...
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:37 AM
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16. Personally, I don't believe * ever said a damn thing to Rove, except
"Heck of job, Karl".
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:57 AM
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27. except - "Karl, see if you can slime that Wilson guy."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:40 AM
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18. Bush's concern is Rove "handled it in a ham-handed & bush-league way."
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 08:40 AM by flpoljunkie
No problem doing it, just don't get caught, eh? The BFEE modus operandi made plain.
________

A second well-placed source said some recently published reports implying Rove had deceived Bush about his involvement in the Wilson counterattack were incorrect and were leaked by White House aides trying to protect the President.

"Bush did not feel misled so much by Karl and others as believing that they handled it in a ham-handed and bush-league way," the source said.

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/357107p-304312c.html
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:44 AM
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19. So ... ...WHAT? What difference does it make if W was upset?
Did he do anything about it? Could he? Isn't he just a figurehead anyway?

Who cares if he was upset and gave him a GOOD TALKING TO this is a matter of national security and treason. You have to do something about it not just TALK to him.

TALK TALK TALK I thought W was a doer not a TALKER

Complete and utter bullshit.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:36 AM
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20. I just want to know that Fitz is aware of this.
All that matters.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:43 AM
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21. Exactly. Bush was questioned by Fitzpatrick on June 24, 2004.
Did Bush reveal these angry rebukes of Turd Blossom to Fitzpatrick during that questioning? Someone needs to ask Scotty about this today.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:43 AM
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22. Sure he did. If he did it was only because Karl got caught , not because
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 09:44 AM by yellowcanine
he thought what he did was wrong.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:45 AM
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23. So how exactly did the little fraud show his displeasure? Did he pee
on Karl's leg?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:57 AM
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24. "anything he did was done to help George W. Bush. The President knows..."
"...that and appreciates that."

P-A-R-D-O-N

So, breaking the law is OK...as long as you're doing it for George?


What a classless bunch of hoodlums.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:55 AM
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25. straight from the wh spin machine - why hasn't rove been shitcanned?
if chimpy is so pissed?
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:55 AM
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26. Rove returned the favor in Ohio-Nov. 2, 2004.
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