Raw Story: Miller - indefinite leave of absence starting immediately!

[IndyOp]

Miller to take indefinite leave of absence starting immediately

[Nickster]

1. Alright, about time. They should fire her ass.

[Cha]

2. About Fucking Time!

"DEVELOPING HARD"!!

[Demobrat]

3. One down.

So who's next?

[bluestateguy]

4. I am not a big fan of Raw Story

Some of their stories end up being major exaggerations of only a small kernel of truth, or sometimes they don't materialize at all.

We'll see.

[OKNancy]

11. She says in the NYTimes article that

she is going to take some time off.
So in the case they are right, but the NYTimes article was out before their story and it's not exclusive or surprising.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1852251#1852336

[pyro858]

5. Let's give the Times a leave of absence asap

The times is nothing more than a propaganda outlet for the bush regime. All liberals should stop buying this rag. Lets hurt them the only place we can- the pocketbook. We should begin a boycott asap. Let's spread the word among libs.

[EFerrari]

7. Welcome to DU, pyro858

:hi:

[NV Whino]

13. Welcome to DU!

I stopped reading the Times after the 2000 election.
:hi:

[senseandsensibility]

18. You have a good attitude

I agree. When I think of all the good libs in NY spending money on that rag, I could cry. Get the word out! And welcome to DU!!:hi:

[newyawker99]

22. Hi pyro858!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[tularetom]

6. Did you read the NYT story?

I only had time to skim it. There was one passage in there to the effect that Miller told her attorney that she thought Libby had reason to be fearful that she might testify, and I thought, why would she think that? Did she think that he might be fearful because she thought he had violated the law? If she thought that, she was no longer "protecting a source". She was rather "obstructing justice" and by her own words she knew it. If Libby was breaking the law and she was waiting for his permission to testify, she was complicit in his illegal act. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV but this seems very clear cut to me. Am I missing something?

[spindrifter]

12. She would

be obtructing justice if she had permission from her source to testify but then refused. She would be obstructing if he was continuing to break the law and she refused to say what she knew when questioned. What JM needed to do was testify truthfully once she was no longer "protecting her source" and let the Prosecutor sort out what to do with her info--whether it meant he had probable cause on her acts or someone else's.

[NYC]

21. Page 3 of the 8 page article:

...Ms. Miller said her notes leave open the possibility that Mr. Libby told her Mr. Wilson's wife might work at the agency...

...Ms. Miller said "she had not been at the receiving end of a concerted effort, a deliberate organized effort to put out information."...

From page 4:

..."Judy believed Libby was afraid of her testimony," Mr. Keller said, noting that he did not know the basis for the fear. "She thought Libby had reason to be afraid of her testimony."...

Preceded on the same page by:

...Mr. Abrams said Mr. Tate also passed along some information about Mr. Libby's grand jury testimony: that he had not told Ms. Miller the name or undercover status of Mr. Wilson's wife.

That raised a potential conflict for Ms. Miller. Did the references in her notes to "Valerie Flame" and "Victoria Wilson" suggest that she would have to contradict Mr. Libby's account of their conversations? Ms. Miller said in an interview that she concluded that Mr. Tate was sending her a message that Mr. Libby did not want her to testify...

And on page 5:

... the judge said. "She has a waiver she chooses not to recognize."...

So, we still don't know why she chose to sit in jail for nearly 3 months. Both Tate and the judge knew she had a waiver from Libby. Why didn't she?

In summary, it was an endless article which really didn't say much.

[TexasLawyer]

8. War Pimps-- Be Gone

They should not only be out of work, they should be in jail.

Gitmo would be fitting.

[acmavm]

9. Okay, if that wretch has to take a leave of absence because she's

been nailed for her lies, then it surely can't bode well for the bush** administration that she whored for for so long, can it?

[JDPriestly]

10. Shattered Glass

is a timely movie I recommend that you see. It is about a reporter who became editor of the New Republic -- in spite of the fact that he made up dozens of stories. Essentially, Miller and her friends in the Bush administration (and Chalabi) have done virtually the same thing. They invented stories and published them in the New York Times.

[NV Whino]

14. I saw that movie

Truly amazing.

[rocktivity]

15. What do they mean, "we?"

"Judy is going to take some time off until we decide what she is doing next," Times' spokesperson Catherine Mathis told RAW STORY Saturday afternoon.

...Two reporters inside the newsroom say they have heard Miller will resign from the paper.
"Until WE decide what SHE is going to do next?" That's a cute trick. Translation: "Resign and give us an exclusive in lieu of severance or get fired."

The Times' Sunday story asserts that Miller has not signed a book deal as previously reported.
And we should believe everything she now has to say because...?

The paper's executive editor...says, "...The package we are giving readers includes Judy Miller's account of what she told the Special Counsel...No other reporter drawn into this investigation has provided such a detailed report."
Uh...seeing as she was a TARGET in the investigation, what other reporter COULD have provided "such a detailed report"? And we should believe everything she now has to say because...?

:crazy:
rocknation

[NV Whino]

16. I find it amusing

that a reporter has a publicist.

[peacetalksforall]

17. I posted this on another thread. Am I right or wrong?

So far, there is only one bright light in all of this. The public
finally realizes a fact about the protection of sources crap that Toensing and Coulter and a whole slew of propagandists have thrown at us - the stuff about POOR Judy who had to go to jail to protect her sources.

Protecting sources involves three parties. She was one of two parties.

Typical whistleblower/protected source scenario:

1. Wrongdoer
2. Whislteblower
3. Impartial journalist who decides with editors to publish or not and whether it is important to protect sources.

The Miller Scenario:

1. Wrongdoer - Cheney, Libby, Rove, or whomever.
2. Wrongdoer - Miller
3. Wrongdoer - the New York Times
She was a 100% paraticipant in a WH plot first - and got there by pretending to be a journalist.

And the New York Times KNEW.

[Botany]

19. Egg Zact Lee

They had to print a retraction about the WMDs and the reasons for the Iraqi
war.

Miller was nothing more then an expensive Jeff Gannon or Armstrong Williams.

I called the NY Times on 11/3/04 w/ proof of a phone hack on a voting fraud
"hot line" in Ohio .... i tried for over an hour to get to a reporter .... nothing.

Shortly after the theft of the election they (N Y Times) printed story that
we are all kooks and self fulfilling conspiracy nuts.

I love Krugman and some of their writers but Art Schultzberger (sp) and
company are just whores too for bush and company.

Too late bush & company are going down and those who propped him up
are going to be exposed as the shits they are. Liberal Media :rant:

[Halliburton]

20. a lot of people will be saved because of this action