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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:53 PM
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FEMA, a brief review of its powers
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/FemaTheSecretGovernment.shtml
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA

Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:55 PM
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1. Well, it's why the budget is huge but disaster relief underfunded
Most of the money goes to these black ops, which doubtless are rampantly embezzled under cover of secrecy.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:59 PM
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2. All it would have taken is to take SOME minor control of transportation.
That's it--just ask business to offer up some helicopters/planes/trucks, which most would have gladly done, and the squalor and loss of life would have been minimal.

Michael Brown, this tragedy is at your feet. You had the power, you just didn't have the guts.

You are responsible for the death and disease of thousands. Resign now, before it gets any worse--if that's even possible.
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:14 PM
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3. On the WGN news in Chicago Mayor Daley was outraged because
before the hurricane hit he offered FEMA to send all kinds of emergency help down to LA but FEMA told him it didn't need it. Daley says Chicago is still standing by waiting for FEMA to call. So far all FEMA asked for was a truck load of gasoline.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902daley,0,6429273.story?coll=chi-news-hed
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:21 PM
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4. That's just it; there would have been more than enough buses
available to evacuate had the call gone out.

City and state governments, medical organizations, charities, businesses--no one can tell me that they would have refused to respond in this situation had they been asked. Many weren't even asked and have offered anyway.

I could have done this better--I'm just a library assistant!

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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:23 AM
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10. i'm rather partial to seppuku... but we all can't get our wishes...
probably doesn't have the honor to stand like an adult and take his punishment or reject any forthcoming "medal" (fuckers would make me go ballistic if they tried that shit).
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:33 AM
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11. Interesting that they didn't do shit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4602266


Not advocating that they do what the OP is warning about, but you're right, they could've saved lives. From looking at their website press releases, you would think that they have done wonders---it's summarized in the link above.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:35 AM
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12. were city/school busses used in the pre-storm evacuation? n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 05:36 AM by rfkrfk
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:16 PM
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5. RECOMMENT THIS...IT IS REMARKABLE.
Great work. They could do it.

PLEASE RECOMMEND THIS FOR GREATEST!!!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:00 AM
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9. Hey, have you seen this yet?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 02:09 AM by Usrename
Drowning New Orleans

Scientific American

pdf:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jkbrooks/pictures/New%20Orleans.pdf

the pdf is much better if you can use pdf

This sentence in the third paragraph of from the end. Can you believe his name is in it?


"If Congress and President George W. Bush hear a unified call for action, authorizing it would seem prudent."






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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:01 PM
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19. Thanks username!!!
Scientific American! Good lord. Too bad no one in the administration has a subscription. They're all hung up on Faith Based Science.

Here are two more great resources predicting the catastrophe well before it happened.

Here's a link to an LSU data collection project.
http://www.hurricane.lsu.edu/in_the_news.htm
"Surviving Disaster" and "A Way Out" are Particularly Interesting

How about this series in the Times Picayune, New Orleans.
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:45 AM
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6. kick for that
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:34 AM
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7. Bonfire of the Constitution
their using the Constitution for toilet paper
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:52 AM
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16. You missed the point entirely--they COULD have suspended the Constitution
but didn't.

They could have commandeered commercial transport and the highway and air systems to get relief into the victims, but they sat on their asses.

It would have been 72 houtrs at the most, most likely far less had they done this pre-landfall.

The Constitution is being suspended in NO, it's just not the best way it could have been (NG as military police).
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:43 PM
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18. Well said!
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Lydia Guerra Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:37 AM
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8. Gettysburg II is burnin' the keyboard tonight!!
Lydia Guerra has been reading and reading and reading.
Is it time for revolution? What will we do? Is it time to defend our nation - at home? What time is it? Nationtime.

Get the creeps out of the WH. Discredit the spineless Congress: GOP and Dems alike.

Time to put on our boots and fight.

Racism must die.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:08 AM
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13. AM kick for a must read. Fine work, GettysbergII. nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:28 AM
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14. No, no, no
Yall forget that New Orleans didn't ask for help.

On form 1040z, section 22, paragraph 4, there is no signature! Therefore they never asked. Too bad!

:sarcasm:
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:31 AM
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15. Was this Nixon? Carter? who gave the EO?
NoFederales
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:27 PM
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17. Here's a brief who did what on FEMA
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/FemaTheSecretGovernment.shtml

FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate:

* the National Security Act of 1947, which allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities;
* the 1950 Defense Production Act, which gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy;
* the Act of August 29, 1916, which authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency; and
* the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national.

These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

In April 1984, President Reagan signed Presidential Director Number 54 that allowed FEMA to engage in a secret national "readiness exercise" under the code name of REX 84. The exercise was to test FEMA's readiness to assume military authority in the event of a "State of Domestic National Emergency" concurrent with the launching of a direct United States military operation in Central America. The plan called for the deputation of U.S. military and National Guard units so that they could legally be used for domestic law enforcement. These units would be assigned to conduct sweeps and take into custody an estimated 400,000 undocumented Central American immigrants in the United States. The immigrants would be interned at 10 detention centers to be set up at military bases throughout the country.

REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal security doors were placed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. Even long-standing employees of the Civil Defense of the Federal Executive Department possessing the highest possible security clearances were not being allowed through the newly installed metal security doors. Only personnel wearing a special red Christian cross or crucifix lapel pin were allowed into the premises. Lt. Col. North was responsible for drawing up the emergency plan, which U.S. Attorney General William French Smith opposed vehemently. The plan called for the suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the government over to FEMA, appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments and the declaration of Martial Law. The Presidential Executive Orders to support such a plan were already in place. The plan also advocated the rounding up and transfer to "assembly centers or relocation camps" of a least 21 million American Negroes in the event of massive rioting or disorder, not unlike the rounding up of the Jews in Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

The second known time that FEMA stood by was in 1990 when Desert Storm was enacted. Prior to President Bush's invasion of Iraq, FEMA began to draft new legislation to increase its already formidable powers. One of the elements incorporated into the plan was to set up operations within any state or locality without the prior permission of local or state authorities. Such prior permission has always been required in the past. Much of the mechanism being set into place was in anticipation of the economic collapse of the Western World. The war with Iraq may have been conceived as a ploy to boost the bankrupt economy, but it only pushed the West into deeper recession.
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