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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:16 PM
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That SH*T Feinstein does it again
Dianne the DINO is a co-sponser on the bill to re-authorize the egregious provisions of the misnamed patriot act.

What A FUCKING useless bag of skin she is!!!

Here's what I emailed to her just now:

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You are UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

You are a co-sponser on the reauthorization of the most egregious parts of the misnamed "patriot" act to allow FBI snooping on anyone they feel like, back to the days of COINTELPRO.

What part of history are you completely clueless about??? I guess it doesn't matter to you though, you're rich. You can buy your way out of any potential troubles you might get into.

The rest of us are screwed. This will open the door to all of the dirty tricks that were played by Nixon and his crowd against anyone who wouldn't toe the war party line.

Congratulations. When are you going to switch your affiliation to republican?

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:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:17 PM
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1. She was at the shrub's dinner party the other night
Must of made the deal then. The more I hear of her, the more I think California needs to show her das boot......
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:21 PM
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4. Der Stiefel? Das Boot is the boat
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:26 PM
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50. Bestimmt.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:27 PM
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11. Why was she at a Bush dinner party?
n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:25 AM
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48. She had an invitation to Dine with the President
saw the guest list the other day and saw her name and her husband, thought it was weird, she was the only Democrat I saw on the list...
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MisterLiberal Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:46 PM
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62. Seriously!!!
What IS she thinking? Someone remind her of that (D) at the beginning of her name.

Our major problem isn't being more like the Repukes; IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE REAL LEADERSHIP!!!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:19 PM
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2. Let's get rid of her. Everyone write to Sheen and any other stars you can
think of. We need someone big running against her in the primary.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:12 PM
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61. I am from California, and have been trying
to get something on ousting DiFi for the last three months. Please read my posts in the California forum. Possible candidate Cindy Sheehan. Took alot of heat in the forum for this, but people are now coming around. I was a long time supporter, but no more. SHE HAS GOT TO GOOOOOOO!!!!!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:20 PM
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3. Could you give us a link PD?
thanks.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:23 PM
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6. SHE MUST GO!
She is also pushing for that stupid pointless lie she calls the “Assault Weapon Ban”

She is the main reason we lost the congress back in the mid 1990’s.

SHE MUST GO!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:26 PM
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10. Oh bullshit. I've had guns pulled on me in court before by nutcases
Keeping weapons with multiple rounds off the street and out of the hands of people who wish to kill large quantities of people with them is REASONABLE.

Slam Feinstein for whatever you wish, but she is not the reason we lost congress in 94...you don't need 156 rounds to fucking hunt with.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:30 PM
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13. WOW!
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 05:31 PM by virginia mountainman
I know lots of folks that after all the gun control that was passed in the early 1990's turned their back on Democrats, and have NOT looked back...

Too bad the law ONLY banned guns on their LOOKS and NOT how they functioned..

Look it up, you will find out the truth about it..

Edit, I am talking ON A NATION LEVEL, not a local one, She has cost us THOUSANDS of votes.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:36 PM
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18. Sensible gun laws should not lose us votes. There is no more reason
to run around with 156 rounds than there is to run around with a nuke under the seat of your car.

All those people traded off the first amendment and the 3rd-27th over some fucking myth that Dems wanted to take all their guns away.

That's is pure bullshit. I realize there are some flaws with the language of the law in terms of what weapons it precludes and what it doesn't...but how fucking psychotic is it to be preoccupied with terrorism when the majority of murder in the world today still occurs as a result of small arms?
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:40 PM
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21. 20,000 gun laws
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books; we PASSED reasonable several years ago….

I am sorry about your incident with someone with a gun in court, I wonder how many of the laws he broke WHEN HE BROUGHT HIS GUN TO THE COURT. I am certain a few more would NOT have stopped him.

And besides, I have not hunted in years, that argument is a fallacy, I own firearms to DEFEND myself and family…..

I mean seriously, do YOU need to have a 15 day waiting period to use your 1st Amendment rights????
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:48 PM
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25. Rofl...you don't even approve of a waiting period so that someone with
a criminal record cannot buy a gun? That is not even the postion of most posters down in the gun dungeon! In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a democrat claim that that particular law was unreasonable.

There are plenty of guns that shoot multiple rounds that are still perfectly legal...now tell me again why you need 156? DO you have a lot of kids? Or are you a really bad shot?

And yes, perhaps you forgot that the way Dianne Feinstein came to office as mayor was watching her good friend get murdered by a nut with a grudge and a gun.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:16 PM
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30. LOL
I NEVER said that…..

Let me elaborate my feelings on the matter…


I feel CRIMINALS, Violent felons, to be exact, should not be allowed to own a gun.

I feel a 10 day waiting period is a joke, if you can use credit to buy something instantaneously, you should be able to buy a gun, the same way. If you are not a “prohibited person” The background check should be instantaneous too.

And beside, My Concealed carry license EXEMPTS me from all background checks, so there is another “loop hole” for Feinstein to rally against, be she knows so little about guns and gun laws, she wont know, until Brady tells her about it.

Face it, 99% of the people that own firearms, own more than one. You are NOT stopping any crimes with a waiting period.

And why the arbitrary number of 156?? None of my Semi-auto rifles hold anywhere near that many rounds.

Or is that another “pointless” feature to ban guns on, much like the bayonet lug or a pistol grip?? Or worse, a black plastic stock???
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:46 PM
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33. Conceal Carry
lets you get out of the law??? Holy shit, We NEED STRONGER LAWS!!!!

How about this for clarity.

All handguns are ILLEGAL.

All long guns that are useless for hunting or aren't solely used for target shooting and are kept under lock and key at a target shooting facility are ILLEGAL.

All bullets are taxed at $1/bullet to pay for the medical costs of "accidental" woundings by yahoos who own guns but don't know shit about firing them.

That should be clear enough for anyone.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:42 AM
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34. Why??
I fully COMPLIED with the laws.

All 20,000 or so of them…..
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:38 PM
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32. Excuse me just a minute - I thought it was the 2nd Amendment
not the 1st. :shrug:
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:33 AM
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40. I think Carville said it best: If I can wait a week for a washer,
why cannot I not wait a week for a gun?

If you are THAT TERRIFIED FOR YOUR FAMILY GET TWO LOUD BARKING WELL TRAINED DOGS!

Go to the local pound, look for some german shepherds (mixes would be fine I am sure), adopt them, take them to a training school and have them learn to deal well with your family (especially if you have children). I am sure costs the same as a stupid gun but they will warm your feet in winter, show you love every day and will rip the throat out of anyone who tries to harm your child.

Getting two makes sure that one is barking even if the other is being killed by the assaliant.

Heck one small yapping dog and one big tough dog would work just as well.

Outside of hunting, no one needs a gun in today's society. Sorry just cannot see it.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:10 AM
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41. I am sorry
I am sorry, but dogs like that are dangerous,

I prefer not to have them around the kids, I read all the time about “dog attacks”

There is an important distinction between a dog and a gun….

A gun is an imamate object, a dog is NOT, a dog, can act on his own, and bite WHOMEVER it pleases. A gun will not on it own free will, get up, walk across the yard and shoot someone for just walking by.


You don’t understand, the 15 day waiting period (Don’t exist in Virginia anyway) is POINTLESS.

Simply because folks that own guns, own more than one. So the waiting period means NOTHING, just an pointless inconvenience…….

……….That has pushed good people away from our party

Much like the AW Ban, it did NOTHING besides get us tossed out of congress

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:03 AM
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42. Really. My brother has a psych history and if there were a waiting period
for guns, perhaps he would not be able to pick one up whenever he wants? Why are all you gun nuts in such a damned hurry to get your guns anyway? Whay CAN'T you wait?
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:11 AM
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46. IS their a waiting period on the rest of the “Bill of Rights”?
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:14 AM by virginia mountainman
And your brother’s medical history would make him a “prohibited person” right off the bat, so the waiting period is not needed.

He committed a major FELONY just by trying to buy a gun..
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:32 PM
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14. She keeps us distracted with the assault weapons ban while she erodes our
Civil Liberties.

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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:35 PM
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16. YEP.....
Your right, she IS a turncoat to our civil liberties, on SEVERAL fronts..
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:35 PM
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17. This is SOOOOO
Off-topic.

How many dems have taken your guns away.

What fluff...
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:08 AM
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45. Her pet issue
has done a lot of damage to the party.

I'm so fed up with politicians whoring for corporations, in favor of destroying civil liberties, yet promoting something as politically suicidal as she has which has driven away millions of voters.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:22 PM
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5. Allrighty then.
I hope she reads it, but I doubt it. One of her aides probably just hits delete. At least it made you feel better.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:50 PM
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27. Part of the running
correspondence I've had with her email machine for quite a while now.

Yeah, it give me the appearence of feeling better :-)
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:24 PM
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7. DiFi voted for CAFTA, the WAR and loves Condi. She's a Republican.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:34 PM
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15. She always has been
At least as long as I've known about her -- 1979 when that bastard Dan White made her Mayor of S.F. by killing that great liberal, George Moscone and Sup. Harvey Milk.

She's a rich-bitch, repuke shithead...
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:01 PM
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54. three strikes for a healthy Democratic Primary Contender
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:25 PM
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8. maybe she's suckin up to California Republicans because
Dems in the know realize she's sold out.

No vote here. And don't call me for money.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:29 PM
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12. Who needs votes dear? We have electronic voting machines.
n/t
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:37 PM
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20. well, there's that too....
I still punch but I know what you're saying.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:26 PM
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9. Gawd! I wish she were out of
the Senate. she's a Scourge on the country.

Can't California do something about her in 2006.. isn't it?

Good letter to her, btw!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:37 PM
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19. I'm going to work my ASS off
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 05:38 PM by ProudDad
to make sure she doesn't get another chance. Any Dem who runs against her next year gets my help!!!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:42 PM
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22. Give us a link PD.
So we can send the information out.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:48 PM
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26. Here's one link
She evidently got into bed with Specter to put together a wishy-washy version of a re-authorization. My ire was raised by a quote of her on KPFA Free Speech news this afternoon to the effect that she believed that, "we need to stop terrorists before they can attack." (as if that's possible...)

For me it was more of the same-o, same-o from this worthless slimeball:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302113.html

"Two senior members of the Senate Judiciary Committee introduced legislation yesterday that would lead to more restrictions on the government's powers under the USA Patriot Act, setting the stage for a protracted legislative battle in coming months over the controversial anti-terrorism law.

The proposal by Sens. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) would scale back a law that the administration seeks to keep largely intact. But it also attracted immediate criticism from civil liberties advocates who say it does not adequately rein in the government's activities."

"Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.), a member of the Judiciary Committee and the only senator to vote against the Patriot Act when it was approved in October 2001, said in a statement that he is "disappointed" in the bill introduced by Specter and Feinstein. "In its current form, I cannot support this bill, but I hope we can work together to improve the legislation in the coming weeks," Feingold said."
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woldnewton Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:43 PM
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23. I recommend Maxine Waters run against her in the primary...
And for sure if she loses, she'll be able to jump back into her congressional seat even if she has to sit it out for 2 years, which is unlikely anyway. Losing the primary won't mean she won't be anything but a shoo-in for her House seat even in that same year.

And I think it's time "progressive" California prove that it can elect an African-American to a statewide race in these modern times.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:06 AM
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47. Maxine's safe in her own district and we'd hate to lose her in House
and sometimes she's just a little too reactive for
a Senator...but surely there is someone who could
run against Feintein...give us a choice.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:47 PM
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24. I wrote a thread about this the other day. I'm through w/her!
"Judas" Feinstein can kiss my ass!

Peace.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:53 PM
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28. Is a Democrat challenging her for her seat? Where can I send the check?
Her attitude towards Bush's illegal war and her unflagging support for it are what finally did it for me. I can't stand this woman, whatever political label she decorates herself with. I'd send her a letter but I don't really expect or want to change her mind at this point as I've given up on her. I applaud your effort but I don't think Feinstein responds to voters. I have made previous efforts to contact BOTH Feinstein and Boxer in California over issues, through e-mails and snail mail. Senator Boxer's office has responded to me EACH TIME. I NEVER got anything back from Feinstein. Zip. I think we in California have to take the steps to find a candidate to replace her.
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woldnewton Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:54 PM
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29. No one yet...
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 05:54 PM by woldnewton
but I'll be calling Waters' office and suggesting she do so soon enough ;-)
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:26 PM
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31. Californians... please ditch her!
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:05 AM
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35. We need to start a DUMP DINO DIANE site
and make the hits PUBLIC and start A BANK ACCOUNT and update the balance HOURLY.

I could so get behind that. She's repulsive.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:19 PM
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57. I am IN!!!!!
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:33 PM
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59. good - um...make that GREAT idea...dump all repugs in dem clothing n/t
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:25 AM
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36. Her husband got the big contract about the time ...
she was kissing Condi, if I remember correctly. I knew then they were bought off. She needs to go, vote her out as she can afford it.

:sarcasm:
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:48 AM
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37. Unbelievable! Feinstein is now officially a NEO-CON
She has all the makings of a neoconservative of the Horowitz variety. Ex liberals always make the most aggressive neocons. Look at Norm Coleman. Or Reagan. When Feinstein was governor, she was ok. Now, since becoming a member of the elitist, corrupt, zionist senate, she's slid to the right. She really is damaging to the Democratic Party.

Now Boxer on the other hand, she's an ACE.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:53 AM
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38. Too bad we can't just clone Boxer, eh? nt
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:25 AM
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39. AND she's singing Roberts' praises
(snip):"He is well-regarded," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat who was not a member of the Gang of 14 but is an abortion rights supporter who sits on the Judiciary Committee, which will hold the confirmation hearings. "He does not appear to be an extreme ideologue. He does appear to be a mainstream conservative."

Feinstein said any judgments must await the hearings, but for now, "I don't see the extraordinary circumstance at this stage. Now something could develop, there could be some scandal, there could be some unknown. ... But he appears to me to be a very sound, bright lawyer and now appellate court judge, so I don't see the circumstances at this stage."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/21/MNGSJDR79L1.DTL
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:04 AM
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43. She's truly awful
She's just as bad as Lieberman (if not worse), yet she doesn't get nearly the amount of scorn.

And what's interesting is her husband donated to Bush. I don't trust her even the slightest.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:06 AM
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44. Feinstein is a Neocon. Doesn't matter that she has a D after her name
She is fully behind the BushCo imperialism and is fully behind the invasion of Iraq to steal their oil. She is also fully behind the fascism of the P.A.T.R.I.O.T Act.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:22 PM
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49. This is a shining example of the DLCs end goals
To have politicians with a "D" after their name vote with repukes. "New Dem" = "Neo Con".
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:37 PM
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51. When is she up for re-election? Please tell me it's 2006!!!!
She is a disgrace to the Senate and to women.

Without Sen. Boxer, California would just sink into the ooze.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:38 PM
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52. I hold Feinstein most accountable for us losing Congress in 1994.
The Assault Weapons Ban (which didn't affect assault weapons and didn't ban anything) was the single biggest legislative mistake of the last 20 years. All it served to do was galvanize the NRA and the right-wing.

The worst thing about it was the fact that as mayor of San Francisco she issued herself a concealed firearm permit...and at the time was the only person in the city who had one. What a fucking hypocrite.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:43 PM
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58. I'm somewhat surprised to find anyone that remembers what an absolute...
scumbag she is and always has been. Banned firearms in SF and issues herself a concealed carry permit. Block prosecution of her thieving husband when he gets caught red-handed defrauding the government and students of his corporate school. The list goes on and on, but I'm tired of trying to get people to see her for what she is. Maybe we could clone Boxer? At least she is true to her rhetoric.
:grr:
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:51 PM
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53. Nice note! That just about says it. I wrote one like that to
Schumer and Clinton when they OKed giving the chimp the right to declare war. It helped me feel a little better--briefly.:shrug:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:02 PM
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55. She's declared she'll run for re-election in 2006
So California Dems better get on the stick - quickly - to find a suitable replacement for her.
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GoSolar Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:05 PM
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56. CA voters
Please kick her out. :kick:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:35 PM
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60. Maybe she plans to run for President....
...as a republican.
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