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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:01 PM
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Democracy at Risk: Ohio Election 2004 - Dean's Statement and Full Report
Governor Dean's Remarks Introducing the Report

Last December the DNC announced a comprehensive investigative study of election administration issues arising in the 2004 Presidential election in Ohio.

The purpose of this study was not to challenge the results of the election. It was to understand and analyze thoroughly the problems that had reportedly prevented many Ohio citizens from being able to vote and to have their votes counted, in order to develop a solid factual basis for advocating further reforms in our election system.

<snip>

Today we are here to announce the results of their investigation. Donna and her team will talk in just a moment about the specifics of the report and the way the study was conducted, but I want to make a couple of key points.

The results show that our election system failed the citizens of Ohio in 2004, and in particular failed African Americans, new registrants, younger voters and voters in places using touch screen machines.

More than a quarter of all Ohio voters reported problems with their voting experience.

Twice as many African American voters as white voters reported experiencing problems at the polls.

Voters experienced incredibly long lines, some waiting as much as 8 hours. And African American voters reported waiting about twice as often.

Nearly one quarter of all Ohio voters reported that their experience in 2004 has made them less confident about the reliability of elections in Ohio. And no wonder.

This is not right. This is not the American way, and it's not good for our democracy when our citizens don't have confidence that their voice is being heard.

Now this study focused on Ohio, but the truth is there was anecdotal evidence from around the country, that raised serious questions about the way elections are being conducted.


<snip>

I'll be studying the report and putting together an action plan that we will present at our next DNC meeting in September, '05. The Democratic Party is committed to ensuring that we move forward from today, ready to do the work required to reform the way elections are conducted, and to ensure that we restore American's confidence in our election system.


link to complete report here: http://www.democrats.org/vri/ohioreport/index.html
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:03 PM
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1. God Bless the courageous truth-tellers.... (n/t)
TC
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:11 PM
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4. I hope you are referring to the voters who came forward not to the DNC's
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 12:12 PM by mod mom
half assed attempt at an investigation. Did they bother to look into allegations brought forward by grassroots activists? Where is the section on the faux security alert ? How about the dissection of how problems in Lucas County effected the vote there?:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/lucas.htm

This report includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.

Sorry but this report was not worth the $500,00 they spent.
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Conker Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:18 AM
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29. Unsupervised access to unsecured ballots?!
Ohio's voting system is so messed up.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:09 PM
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2. Thankyou DNC. This is exactly what we needed. September.....
keep up the activism and the positive vibes.

Dean MUST succeed at this heavy task and we must help him do it.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:10 PM
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3. thanks, Howard....
More than a quarter of all Ohio voters reported problems with their voting experience.


No way to run a democracy.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:13 PM
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5. Is there any focus on the puke-owned, paperless machines and the
discrepancy b/t the exit polls and the results?

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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:20 PM
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6. Yes...link is here:
Electronic Voting: Accuracy, Accessibility, and Fraud

http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/www.democrats.org/pdfs/ohvrireport/section07.pdf

Sorry, it's a pdf file so I can't cut and paste.

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:00 PM
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7. Unfortunately, on page 10:

I. The statistical study of precinct-level data does not suggest the occurrence of widespread fraud that systematically misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.


• The tendency to vote for Kerry in 2004 was the same as the tendency to vote for the Democratic candidate for governor in 2002 (Hagan). That the pattern of voting for Kerry is so similar to the pattern of voting for the Democratic candidate for governor in 2002 is, in the opinion of the team’s political science experts, strong evidence against the claim that widespread fraud systematically misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.

• Kerry’s support across precincts also increased with the support for Eric Fingerhut, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, and decreased with the support for Issue 1 (ballot initiative opposing same-sex marriage) and increased with the proportion of African American votes. Again this is the pattern that would be expected and is not consistent with claims of widespread fraud that misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:09 PM
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8. 2002 was a trial run for 2004
which is why the fraud worked the same way both years.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:20 PM
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10. Of course
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 02:16 PM
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13. Oh, no. VERY VERY VERY VERY bad. They are still denying the fraud
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 02:22 PM by Nothing Without Hope
With this attitude, I don't see how they can get enough public support to make any meaningful changes.

I printed out the list of electronic voting recommendations in the report in another post in this thread. Though the recommendations sound good, at least to my inexpert eyes, there is NO HINT THAT FRAUD ACTUALLY OCCURRED IN 2004.

And Dean and Kerry are only talking about those long voting lines, not the fundamental electronic issues that would make addressing those voter suppression tactics moot.

The voter suppression tactics were just backup for the real show. In fact, the GOP will doubtless go along with addressing them, since it will make them look like they give a damn about honesty while the central mechanism for stealing elections remains unaddressed. It's to their advantage to remove the visible suppression, since the invisible fraud can still do the job without riling the public.

I am very worried about this. On the face of it, it sounds like the report - and, so far, Dean's own statements - are all about those long voting lines. There is a short section in the report - 8 pages - on electronic fraud opportunities, but it is buried and not referred to in Dean's statements.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 02:18 PM
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14. We need to BLAST them with the truth about this. THIS IS FALSE and
will undermine all efforts to correct electronic voting fraud.

If it didn't affect the election and was so minor, why work hard to correct it? It's a continuation of the coverup.

We cannot allow this to stand. We MUST get the truth out loudly and clearly.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 03:37 PM
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17. But 2002 is when they STARTED rigging the machines. Taft should've lost
in 2002 - he was already very unpopular then.

Georgia was a complete fraud in 2002.

DAMN IT!!!!!!!

The sample stats are BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

Dean KNOWS about the machines...he HAS TO. The DNC is the ONLY group accountable for oversight of the voting machines.

He HAS TO DEAL WITH THIS.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:13 PM
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9. Kerry Statement on Release of the DNC Voting Rights Institute Ohio Report
John Kerry on the Release of the DNC Voting Rights Institute Ohio Report
22 June 2005


Kerry Statement on the Release of the DNC Voting Rights Institute Ohio Report:

"It couldn't be more clear from this far reaching study that America has some serious work to do to strengthen our democracy and secure the fundamental rights of all our citizens. The findings of the Ohio Election Report strike at the core of our most cherished values of freedom and equal opportunity, and should concern every American no matter their political party, who they voted for or their racial and economic backgrounds.

"Our democracy is only as strong as the people's faith that their voice counts and their votes will be counted. It is unacceptable that forty years after the Voting Rights Act, Americans are still being denied their fundamental rights and protections under the law.

MORE - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1124
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:55 PM
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11. Kerrygoddess, not to hijack the thread, but
any news as to how soon Kerry will respond to the DSM? LUTD stated very soon. I'm impatient and looking forward to something. :hi:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 02:52 PM
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15. Mea Culpa! Mea Culpa!
I wish I did. When I got the off the record word, it was supposed to be the next day (yesterday) and then (yesterday)they got word that another Senator was to sign the letter. I've posted a couple comments about that in the thread, but the bashing has overshadowed it.

Egg on face for opening my mouth. It was doen with good intentions.
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 03:01 PM
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16. Wow, sorry you got bashed so much! Thanks for the reply
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:29 PM
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19. Thank you... N/T
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 03:43 PM
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18. Thanks for keeping in touch with them
Any contact today?

We didn't worry about how long it took for Conyers to get signatures. I don't know why we would worry about how long it's taking for Kerry to get signatures. But still, it would be good to know how much longer. I'm as impatient as the next guy/gal.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:21 AM
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35. Kerry needs to stand firm and battle them....
Without losing his cool and appearing fringe.

Ohio election fraud was a reality.


Catch the perpetrator and demand Blackwell's resignation. They are stalling the supreme court case.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 02:04 PM
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12. Good LIST OF ELECTRONIC VOTING RECOMMENDATIONS, but neither Dean nor
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 02:09 PM by Nothing Without Hope
the overview/cover statement mention the importance of electronic voting as a primary means of fraud, nor is there any hint that it might have occurred in 2004. The report is all done in a very hypothetical, descriptive approach. Electronic fraud possibilities are not covered until Section VII of the report ("Electronic Voting: Accuracy, Accessibility and Fraud." That section looks good to me (though we definitely need to have Andy Stephenson and other experts give their opinion), but its contents and recommendations are NOT mentioned by Dean, who focusses instead on the long lines and voter suppression. Yes, these issues are very important, but without all-out attack on the electronic voting fraud mechanics, there is NO HOPE OF IMPROVEMENT. The GOP could just "compromise" by letting the black districts have more machines but still hack the vote count. Presto, another stolen election.

Electronic voting fraud is covered (and not until Section VII) only as a hypothetical list of described weaknesses and proposed corrections. Do they really think they can push all these through without a stronger basis in the fact that there WAS massive abuse and fraud in 2004? If the public doesn't know, who will push the GOP to change? Especially since without fraud, many of them would be thrown out in the next election and they would lose their congressional monopoly. In my opinion, there is far too much gentility, "looking forward," as the report says, and NO mention of the massive evidence that fraud did occur in 2004. All the descriptions are only polite and hypothetical. How do they expect to make any changes with that attitude and starting point?

Here is the pdf file of Section VII:
http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/www.democrats.org/pdfs/ohvrireport/section07.pdf

It is only 9 pages long, including cover page and white space. The recommendations in Section VII are on its last two pages. The bolded/underlined section is in italics in the text of the report:

Recommendations


- Precinct-based optical scan systems are the most "accurate" voting systems available today. They are also reasonably priced and can satisfy HAVA requirements in a cost-effective manner with devices such as the ES&S A(see Figure 3).

- Current DRE systems are not engineered to meet the needs of elections. They are extremely expensive to procure and maintain. They are not sufficiently robust against fraud. They are less usable to the broad population of voters than earlier, simpler technologies.

- Existing standards and practices for the certification of voting systems are insufficient to the security requirements of DRE systems. Significant effort will be needed to create the next generation of standards.

- Few quantitative studies have been performed on the usability of different voting technologies. Vendor claims of improved usability should not be considered meaningful until they perform significant user studies under controlled conditions. Existing anecdotal evidence, including event reports, are at best mixed in their opinions of different voting systems’ usability. Election official should perform controlled, scientific studies of their own populations using their own voting machines to truly understand where they might be experiencing usability problems.

- Most voting system vendors consider their software to be proprietary trade secrets and generally resist any attempts to disclose and discuss their designs in public. Private, vendor trade secrets have no place in public elections. Vendors are welcome to protect their intellectual property with copyrights and patents, but their full designs must be subject to public scrutiny. As elections become increasingly electronic, such scrutiny is critical to maintaining transparency and public confidence in elections.

- Computer software, at every stage in the process, might be buggy and could well be malicious. Different strategies are necessary to mitigate against this threat, depending on what voting system is used.
  • Paperless DRE voting systems generally print precinct-level tallies at the end of the election. These printouts are generally signed by the election officials working in the precinct. Those signed printouts should be treated as important evidence as to the result of the election and should be preserved for recounts and post-election auditing.
  • Precinct-level optical scanners might incorrectly tally votes as well. The original marked ballots should be independently counted, or at least randomly sampled and compared to the electronic results, before an election result is certified.
  • Paperless DRE systems should be upgraded to voter-verified paper trail systems. The printouts should be treated in exactly the same fashion as optical scan ballots: they should be carefully preserved as evidence of voter intent and should be randomly sampled and compared to the electronic results.
  • “Parallel testing,” where some DRE voting systems are pulled out of general use and are tested, on election day but under controlled conditions, is an pragmatic and valuable test that should be performed whenever such voting machines are being used.
  • The computers used to tabulate election results are a tempting target for election fraud, and as such, require more significant controls, including well-chosen passwords and physical access restrictions. They should never, in their entire lifetime, be connected to the Internet or to any modem or communication device. Instead, an “air gap” style of security should be used. Data can be released to the public through simple measures such as burning a CD with election results and hand-carrying such a CD to a separate, network-enabled computer.

    - Election officials need to hire “penetration testing” (also called “tiger team”) consultants to examine the security of their election systems. Where such teams have been hired in the past, significant vulnerabilities have been discovered. Such teams should be hired on a recurring basis to audit voting machines as well as the entire voting process, from registration through tabulation.

    - The timely publication of detailed precinct-level election statistics is critical to the public confidence in an election result, and such data is often not available in its entirety for every county. Such statistics can be easily derived from local voting tabulation systems and should be quickly and electronically reported in a standardized fashion.


Sounds good, but I haven't heard Dean say a word about it. Like Kerry, he is only talking about those long lines. Unless this emphasis expands to include an aggressive, all-out campaign to prevent electronic fraud, we are lost.

We need to hammer the Dems and also the Repubs to support fundamental electronic voting reform. We cannot let up. So far, they are not even talking about it enough. They keep talking about those long voter lines but never about the electronic fraud.

I think this is because nation-wide electronic fraud stole the last election, and they are all working at NOT admitting that. Well, unless the Dems admit how bad the situation really is, how massive the numbers of incidents and how extensive the fraud, I can't see how they can make the changes required to prevent it from happening again. It's in the GOP's interest in every way to see to it that their monopoly is kept intact by more fraud. They've taken YEARS to build this fraud machine, and they are NOT going to give it up without a knock-down fight. I believe this can only be accomplished if the public is made aware that the last election was stolen. I believe that only national outrage will fuel change.

Otherwise, nothing will prevent future fraud and our democracy is not only gone - it is already - but will never return. I cannot understand why the Dems don't seem to worry more about that.

My cynical side says that most people in this country don't know about the existence, let alone the magnitude, of the election fraud that stole the 2004 election. Many of them HAVE, however, heard something about those long voting lines. This is especially true in the communities that were affected by those lines. I am hoping that talking about the long lines but not the electronic fraud isn't just a ploy for more votes from the people angered by the long lines.

The unfair voting conditions must be addressed, but unless the electronic voting fraud is also fully and very aggressively addressed, there will be no return of democracy to this country.



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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 07:00 PM
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20. Of course the Republicans will argue and argue about why
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 07:02 PM by jmcon007
things are just fine, but nothing they say will wash.
The one point I feel our representatives need to continue to press is that there is an obvious "perception" that our voting system is not fair by a very significant number of people.
Granted, "perception" can't necessarily be a valid reason to change laws on everything, but I can't think of one thing in this democracy more important to safeguard than that our voting system is as transparent and verifiable as possible.
At the moment, it is not.
If the neocons would like to argue this point....let them.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 07:28 PM
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21. Just as I thought......
there's not a lot here to get excited about. Oh, and to the Dems who penned this report; there doesn't have to be widespread election fraud, just a little bit in the right places will do.

The investigation sounds pretty disappointing from the Cliff's Notes here, I'll have to dig into it thoroughly later.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:35 PM
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23. As an programmer, I can confirm...
that is is just as easy to change 5 votes as it is to change 5 million votes.

External factors such as long lines and voter intimidation are an important part of the problem, but if they don't also focus on what is happening inside the machines, it's all moot.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:17 PM
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22. AP titles their coverage: Ohio Parties Still Sniping Over 2004 Vote
:grr:

AND quotes Mehlman equally with Dean...

snip>
The party's national chairman, Howard Dean, said the voting system particularly failed blacks, new voters, young voters and people who used touch screen machines.

National Republican Chairman Ken Mehlman dismissed the report as "pure political fiction."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062201731.html


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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:36 PM
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24. That headline is disgusting. n/t
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:05 PM
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25. where does it say "Paper ballots NOW!, Hand counts NOW!"?
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 09:11 PM by In Truth We Trust
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truth_is_extreme Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:40 PM
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26. oh sure no fraud
who wrote this report for you Mr. Dean? Rove?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:53 AM
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27. How depressing!
I thought Dean had the guts to tell the truth!
Didn't Conyers compile 101 pages of election fraud evidence and testimony?

Please don't be another Democratic disappointment, Mr. Dean!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:28 AM
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28. Where is an immediate call for election reform...papre trails?
Dean says he is going to study the report and get back to the DNC at their Sept 05 meeting. Well you might as well just throw the 2006 elections down the toilet.We need action on real reform not just sharp barbs that make us feel vindicated for a moment. The delay on this is maddening!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:37 AM
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31. Maddening considering
There has been zero leadership traction on the increasing revelations of crooked touchscreen companies and rotten software. Zero. A big stonewall while the GOP blows off all legitimate concerns and itself pushed energetically for "reform" as if THEY were the victims of 200, an election where even so they lost the popular vote and by any fair accounting the electoral college as well. the aggrieved GOP obviously decided the people can't be trusted to vote the "right" way. Their reforms sure show it, including built in suppression and distrust of the voter.

Instead we got irritated committee sources telling us "they were taking care of the whole picture". And not to get so riled up. As with Iraq those wise leadership voices were worse than wrong. And activists here were right about what was visible and the obvious criminal intentions.

Gentility. What a virtue when riding their Tom Delay-rowed-gondola down a Potomac of innocent blood. Lizard people in charge at the WH and people not of this world leading the opposition.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:26 AM
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30. What sealed the deal
was probably tabulator manipulation by Blackwell or others. No way were they going to rely on the bag of tricks which only made it close. However the bag of tricks is all the obvious evidence which barely stirs a ripple among the jaded press corpse. Even the "glitches" with the touchscreens bordering on the horrendous are not as bad as what can causally be done at end of day with the centralized computer tabulation process itself.

However, this is a giant step compared to 2000 when the DNC report on shenanigans in over a third of the states might as well have been a secret internal affair. the net result of THAT was to stupidly- and no one can place too much emphasis on the word stupidly- take the bipartisan line("voting mess") that led to being led by the GOP HAVA nose and an INCREASE of all unconfronted fraud both old and new.

Now that we have the compromised monster of federal legislation we must turn to where we should have turned long ago- ALL the local situations.
So overwhelming is the pressure to submit to HAVA that there is a competition if not a race to avert greater insecure voting environments.

The WHOLE party should get its mind wrapped around this basic survival issue and fast. This game of slow catchup is an ongoing disaster.
Remember 2000, 2002, 2004. Remember the Ukraine. It is NOT primarily about fundraising, white male issue parsing or abasing oneself before the media. It is about restoring Democratic institutions. The myths are today shallow perversions without a real vote.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:24 PM
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32. I agree with both of your posts. What organization is doing the best
job in fighting for verifiable elections...with paper trails?
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:58 PM
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33. I just don't understand why there's such a problem with...
...simply marking a paper ballot with an X as we do up here and then counting it by hand. I've worked for Elections Canada, Elections Ontario and Elections Saskatchewan as a deputy returning officer, and I've never had trouble with a count. I'm generally home by about 10 o'clock on election night. And there's a lot less opportunity for fraud. Who the hell decided it was necessary to use machines, anyway?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:04 PM
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34. "Who the hell decided it was necessary to use machines, anyway?"
1) Those who want to steal elections.
2) Those who are taking payola from the companies that make the machines.
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